Raila is not sincere and I believe there is something about him that Kibaki knows. He is never a peaceful man but someone hungry for power and revenge. He doesn't care when people are suffering he just want power under whatever cost. Why is he so adamant yet he can see his supporters are always carrying machetes and killing anybody who is anti-Raila. I voted for him but I regret. Let him be warned that he did not even garner 50% of the votes. Those who voted for Kibaki and Kalonzo don't want him and they are the majority. Who is Ruto another trouble maker, He was in moi's govt and now he is promising people heaven. My fellow Kenyan,s you are being taken for granted. Put down your weapons and make peace with one another. For the international leaders,know that, Raila is a danger to the lives of Kenyans. Just like hitler he is Targeting Kikuyu's first then Meru, Kamba, Kisii, Luhya and he want to continue like that till he is left with Luo's who worship him. Let him be warned that he is endangering his own tribe.

wow, its very interesting what you are saying.

What a futile piece of writing? This kind of stupid lies won't take Kenyans anywhere. Raila is harmless, he only defends the downtrodden that's why Kibaki & the likes of this columnist are running scared and resorting to theft & anti-Raila propaganda!!! Kibaki only knows well that he's cheated Kenyans. However, now that Kenyans have woken up - he's fooling people that Raila is dangerous? How come police in Kisumu are shooting innocent people to death? How come Eldoret, a multi-ethnic city is inflamed? How come Mombaa doesn't listen to Kibaki's cronies anymore? These are just a few examples of how Kibaki - mabaki has lost any goodwill. Mungiki keeps terrorising Kenyans all over, how come the Mt.Kenya tribes never complain? What exactly are Kenyans left with apart from their democratic rights - a vote - which in turn has been stolen by Kibaki's people & now you guys want the world to believe the opposite? Well, too little, too late! Kenyans will fight such dictatorship to the core!!! In the end, Raila - the People's President wiill be sworn in!!!!!! Remember, Kenyans have spoken.

Sorry guys, Its time for healing but not mudsliging.Some of us here in the US have already lost our loved ones through no fault of their own.The deadwere simply practising their democratic rights of voting! Luo ,Kalenjin,Kisii amba or Kikuyu voted the way they all did in their own way.Kalonzo,Ruto,Raila and Kibaki are all having thier daily bread as usual wheras our brothers and sisters are butchering each other.They are ALL INNOCENT and this finger pointing is what is flaring up the killings(ethnic cleansing or genocide-all means unlawfully killing fellow country man).For those who are not ready to give any reconcilliatory tone and advise, the best is to shut up!Every time you say or write an inciting statement,an innocent sacred life is lost. Let us all put the elections behind us and work for a (united or fragmented) Kenya without war!

Mpenda wema mtenda wema!

Thank you Ndekere,we are in need of a peacemaker like you.we have already lost many lives and we can never go back.you have really encouraged me and given me a new meaning in my life.join us in prayers.Burning churches and killing innocent kikuyus' is not the solution,the term is not so long for Hon Raila to wait and prove his prowess(patience pays). fellow kikuyu.

Insulting is not the solution ,all what we need is wisdom that comes From above and remember a leader is given by the MOST HIGH GOD AND THATS WHAT HA BEEN DONE.THE GOD'S WILL HAS BEEN DONE my friend,the same God who gives, takes away. an affected fellow kenyan.

YOU JUST SOUND LIKE RAILA TO ME. YOU ARE COLD HEARTED AND DISTURBED. BURNING A CHURCH FULL OF WOMEN AND KIDS IS KENYANS FLIGHTING TO THE CORE? I DON'T THINK SO. RAILA PROMISED MAJIMBOISM IN KENYA AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE ALL THIS MESS.. IF YOU DON'T WORK TO EARN YOUR LIVING... DON'T JUST THINK YOU WILL LOOT AND STEAL PEOPLES PROPERTY. FOR THOSE WHO BROKE INTO SHOPS AND LOOTED... WHO IS NOW SUFFERING... DON'T SPEAK LIKE A FOOL. BE ENLIGHTENED AND IF YOU DON'T LOVE KENYA - GO SOMEWHERE ELSE LIKE SOMALIA..

Well, did you say you voted for Raila? Then who took away your ears and eyes so suddenly? Brother this is not a war of tribes as our people want us to believe.Its war between the robber and the robbed. Just pray that peace may return to kenya instead of the stupid mudslinging. Bless ya.

very true this power hungry wolf has asked his illitrate tribe to swear him in with their blood and they dont go alone kikuyus are paying heavily through their slaughter. i was shocked to see what these luos think of kikuyus when i visited their website. they are bringing their hatred all the way from their village thutched houses to britain as you know they dont build houses.

God, i was shock to see people who are jelous and very hateful towards the kikuyus for no reason. We kiukuyus are prayerful people who embrassed the gospel with both hands. That is where our blessing came from. We are like the Isrealites and our blessing comes from God not from a man as they are claiming. Brothers and sisters lets hold together. Raila had sworn to finish kikuyus and to steal everything that kikuyus have.

Rumours said that he would start with equity bank which is owned by a kikuyu,plus all business both big and small. you see they bank the equity bank in kisumu. once sworn in power he would get the buildings and give them to luos. Also he stopped the selling of some company stocks last year i dont know safari com and said to be sold in january. so once in power jaluos will buy them specifically may be.

I had that he was training some millitary to finish kikuyus if he did not win election.

when i had these i was shocked and is it true really that such a hypocrate can plegde to finish kikuyus? Where would be our God. did germans succeded to finish Jews, never.

now im wiser and i said i will never invest in kisumu or any where that is dominated by luos. you thought you are helping people but they turn against you because you are not one of their tribe.

God knows what is in the heart of Raila and so we should thank God that he never won. Kikuyus where would we be right now if he ever came into power? i always ask myself every single day.

please think before you invest anywhere. Also you need to pray for discernment because i have a business in kenya and i think i would asked the manager to review any luo employ because we might be employing enemies who can finish us.

pray for discernment and the lord will show and expose the enemy. my altitude has changed because of what Raila has done and also after visiting that luos website. I love the lord and im i cannot be ignorant. Be watchful.

You are a lier. be patriotic my brother. It is you that is tribal from your language. Election results were falsified and the winner robbed. Why can't Kibaki say he is a thief, and there will be peace? He is another dictator emerging from a once cool and democratic country. If your tribe did embrace God, why are you people stealing votes? Why did the past leaders from your tribe discriminate against the other tribes? Your tribe is like the Hausas in Nigeria who enjoy the nations wealth and make others poor. I cry for Kenya. The truth about tribalism in Kenya has sufaced and it may be hard for what has happened to go away in your minds. Kingsley Opara(Nigeria)

i Thank God for what Happened That Raila was NOT sworn in i sincerely belive that was God's working ...in 1982 Raila helped organize a coup attempt against a legally and lawfully elected goverment...and lo and behold now ...he is crying foul trying to get Justice over this elections..(truly men may forget but divine Justice never fails)

a Kenyan

I see Hooke you are out of Mr. Odinga. Of course I also wouldn't like Kenya to turn into a state like that of Amin, if we are under Odinga. That's the fear I'd have. Politics in itself is always a dirty game. But between the 2, it's Mr.Kibaki who interests the Kenyan tycoons, westerners and and investors. He can 'do the Job.....' Mr. Odinga is being depicted as a bad guy. He's profile photo is shown besides the frontal of Kibaki's (CNN). He's been associated with the the Taliban and the whole lot of fundamentalists. The corruption Kenyan people place on Kibaki does not seem to interest the world out there. The Kenya I visited this year felt very tribalistic to me. I had to fake myself up whenever I needed a hotel or help in most places of Nbo. Kenya is still politically immature. It still sees the tribes in a candidate.But whenever we divide someone else gains! We are still a young nation making painful experiences, we don't really know our candidates well apart from them being this/that TRIBE. Luos should stay strong and seek other solutions to acquiring prosperity cos they have the brains, maybe the luck will come soon. I sympathize with all affected Kenyan families and wish all Kenyans a healing and prosperous 2008!

I am a Ugandan and what is going on in Kenya reminds me of the tribal attrocities that took place in Uganda when Idi Amin,s government was overthrown. Right now in Uganda the question is how is Museveni's government achieve a non-violent change in leadership? We were hoping Kenya was going to show Uganda how this can be achieved but it certainly is not the case.

Tanzania has shown a great government especially when it comes to leadership change. But Uganda and Kenya are still a long way from have proper system in place. Until such a system is in place Uganda and Kenya are both in my opinion far from having any democracy.

I disagree with the authors sentiments in regard to Raila.I voted for Raila because 88% 0f what he says is true and therefore he can be trusted.Majority of people who fear his leadership are people like my former VP AA Awuor who was my former MP for 24 years and left Funyula with no infrastructure,no industries even Jua Kali,killed cotton industry that was developed by Dr.Ojiambo three decades ago.Kibaki leadership mostly is meant for the rich to protect their interests.Raila knows the kind of life a poor kenyan has experiencing from Kibera where he visits frequently.Kenyans who voted in Raila are totally annoyed with the greedy affair taken by PNU under Kibaki even that Jesus Christ only can stop them to express their feeling.In my view voters turn out 2012 will be only half of the registered voters as their power to choose and democratic right Kenya had been longing for has been swallowed by selfish interests of Kibaki,Michuki,Murage,Kivuitu,Karua,MUTU,Mutua.When these people retire in their respective positions they will live to regret for the harm they caused to their grandchildren.

BENARD

good job

The author of this article is either very naive about Kenyan politics or is from Central Province so he/she is bent on misleading the world. Who does not know how Jaramogi Oginga Odinga stepped down for Mzee Jomo Kenyatta to be the first Prime Minister of Kenya? Who does not know how Jomo Kenyatta betrayed Oginga Odinga and frustrated him until he(Kenyatta) passed away? Who does not know how Jomo Kenyatta robbed all the Kenyans by giving his Central Province relatives and friends all the properties and businesses that the British government "compensated" the British colonialists so that they may return them to the Kenyans? Who does not know that Jomo Kenyatta's Cabinet and government was always composed of 75% people from Central Province. The inequality that was created by Mzee Jomo Kenyatta created economic inequality, mistrust, tension and disatsfaction that lingers to-date.

The likes of Raila Odinga are sober, learned, visionary and couragious Kenyans who feel duty-bound to fight for change, economic equality and true democratisation of Kenya.

If Raila does not succeed in bringing about the change that we need in Kenya, there are many of us that he has bred who will take over from him and carry on with the battle for intergration, economic equality and true democratisation in our beloved country. Kenya does not belong to one tribe. It belongs to all of us and we will never allow one tribe to believe and behave like small gods while plundering our resources and opportunities without any remorse.

Gerald Baraza geraldbaraza2000@yahoo.com

Your hate for Raila is blocking your vision. Take a look at Kenyan History before writing things like this, that inflame people as we try to work for peace as ODM moderates.

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT>>>>>

Kenyans are about to kill their "sun"!. By rigging the election, it is very clear that Kenyans are inviting problems for themseves. What more do you people needs from Kibaki that he had not done in his last term in the office?. Raila is the shinning politician that the World had never had, and Kenyan themseves don't see anything in him. Please Kenyans be thinking of your beautiful Country before changing it shape to be another Somalia of the year 2008. Kibaki's boys rigged the election for him and he is going to save them not you!. If you are not seeing that than I am sorry.

Raila, being a shinning star or not, is not yet proven for he has not been given an opportunity to prove to the Kenyan people that he can deliver them from this tribalistic train that they have been riding on for so long. I am only sure of one thing. If indeed he had won the elections, he should be given his platform to play his part and if he does not deliver, then he should be thrown out. Africa does not need selfish presidents who practice tribalism. Tribalism breeds hatred as you can see. I am not Kenyan but grew up in this beautiful land and have my roots there. Coming from a country whose citizens have known tribal hatred, I can tell you Kenyans that you are playing with wildfire if you do not stop this tribalistic talks. YOU DO NOT NEED A GENOCIDE TO DECIDE THAT ALL KENYANS DESERVE THE SAME RIGHTS. Stand behind a president that will bring good to your country and not a fence sitter/fence mender.

My Fellow Kenyans,

I'm writing this sitting in an office in Westlands, Nairobi. My family is hoping I'll make it back safely. I used to live in Australia - so I'm familiar with arm-chair politicking from the comfort of 15,000km away from home. I know neither Kibaki nor Raila personally; and neither is going to ensure that my family has food tonight. I consider myself a sane, balanced, reasoning professional - struggling to run a small business. But know this: violence only begets violence and if I am pushed far enough, the thin veneer of civility that I possess will melt away. That happens everywhere - Congo, Ivory Coast, Sudan etc. On the ground here, discussions about Kenyatta have stolen from Ramogi, Moi rigging, Kibaki robbing Rail et al count for very little to any of us. Truth is, I and at 25 million other Kenyan's gained nothing materially from those political machinations. We just struggled to survive.

Tell the world this - anybody fanning violence, hate and ethnic intolerance is our collective enemy. That way lies the road to your worst nightmare - a stateless Kenyan. So preach peace and put aside the the vain posturing for political one-up manship because that will count for nothing in the end. God Bless Kenya

I'm not Kenyan but I'm African. I read most of the reactions and stick to answer this one which seems to come from an open minded person. I presently live in the same room with my friend from Kenya in the US, part of my motivations and interests in Kenyan affairs. Also, I do care a lot about Africa and Africans. We need to Stop shedding our Own blood! It's not glorious for us. Last year, I read an article that placed Kenya, Niger and other 3 African countries ahead of good democracies. Is it not honorable for Africa? But now that this unexpected break through starts in Kenya, it's nothing than a mere blow to Kenyan credibility first and Africa second. Thus, for the purpose of not dumping your country and the whole continent, STOP killing our brothers and sisters. I will not talk a word about your politicians, but save African up-going credibility.

Absolutely correct, the world is falling to Raila's Traps. And I am sure anyone who has followed Kenya's politicks closely since pre-independence and has detailed knowledge of Raila's father's politicks, Oginga Odinga, as well as that of Raila himself will agree with me. To those of us with inside information about Raila and his pentagon members it is clear this group had pre-planned all the violence and agitation that we have witnessed. The Eldoret Church Genocide was just a taste of what would have happened to particularly the Kikuyus in larger scale if Raila had won and ODM implemented their Majiboism. Raila and ODM garnered so many votes because of false promises to the poor and especially the impressionable youths and hate campaign. Wonder and fear is what would happen if Raila was the President of Kenya.

If Raila cares for the poor so much as some of the comments try to indicate, why has he not improved the lives of Kibera slum dwellers during the last 15 years he has been their MP? He has done abolutely nothiing for them except incite them and give them false promises. Why is it that Raila was more interested in showing the world's press the poor lifeless dead in the morgue while he had not bothered to visit the site of the genocide in Eldoret and the survivors to console them? Why was Raila not remorseful in the least after 1500 people lost their lives in the 1982 attempted coup he has accepted he had organised? Raila got less than 50% of votes at last election, is he right to claim to be the people's president while the majority did not vote for him? The wishies of the majority must prevail.

Why is it that the whole world is rushing to Kenya to help resolve this issue while most have clearly shown they are not impartial as they have already fallen into Raila's trap? The US and the UK press and leaders have particularly shown clearly they support Raila and therefore cannot be impartial mediators.

I disagree with those who think international mediation will work to resolve the crisis. The maiin problem here is not just that of an election being rigged or not. It is above all a problem of dealing with a man with his own personal, selfish agenda who is so desperate of becoming a president of Kenya, and this is the only chance he thinks he has, that he is ready to do anything to get to his goal - and such a person can be dangerous.

Anyone who wants to fairly and effectively resolve Raila-Kibaki dispute about the elections results will need to know the two very well and their past and the Kenyan society in which they have lived and practised their politicks for so long. International mediators do not have this knowledge and are not the right people to deal with this problem. They can support a dialogue between the two and other Kenyan leaders but not mediate before dialogue has been given a chance.

Remember too that Raila was in Kibaki government during the first two years of the last term when he and his reutenants paralised the government for 2 years before Kibaki was forced to send them

Did you see the innocent man who was hacked to death in Kibera right in front of the Camera? Why do you think anyone would have dared to do so right infront of a camera? Is it because this was a planned incidence like others where the cameraman and his financiers were more interested in getting such an gory action on world TVs to support Raila's claims and did not care that an innocent person was killed in cold blood and those who did the act could be caught as they were identified on the photo?

I fear for Kenya should a person like Raila become president.

I am a citizen of the United States and I volunteer for a small community based organization in Kiambiu slum, Nairobi. The incident of the man being hacked to death was televised here in the states on the nightly BBC news. I became physically ill and couldn't stop crying. There are many people in the US who deeply love Kenya and revere the country as the birth place of humanity. There are many who love the hospitable and industrious people of your nation and have experienced very positive interactions with your nation and its people. But it is very difficult from this side of the world to imagine ANYONE, especially Kenyans, who are known to be peace loving indivduals, murdering one another in cold blood for all the world to see. How could such brutal, viscious acts of violence do anything but predispose the world negatively to Kenya? People killing each other with bullets, machetes and arrows, burning down their meager homes and shops does little to promote a positive profile of the country. The burning of the church with its loss of children and the death toll of 300 in a country seeking democracy strikes pain in our hearts, as well. It is reminiscient of the Los Angeles riots and the genocide of Ruanda. I know that non-Kenyans like myself are not well informed enough to know what is really going on,and from my experience working with folks in Kenya, I feel the desparation of a permanent underclass as we have had in our inner cities. But please, everyone, work for peace. Please accept my concern and prayers for a quick reconcilliation of this horrible moment in time.I look forward to the day when good government, true equality and equal access to resources restores Kenya to its rightful place as "the garden of Eden on earth and the birthpace of humankind." A general once said, "A single life lost is a tragedy; a million lives lost is a statistic." Please stop the bloodshed. Every one of your precious lives lost is a loss of human resources that cannot be replaced.Your dead must not become a mere "statistic." Our condolences are with all those who are suffering. And my contempt is for all those who are benefitting and capitaling from tarnishing Kenya's reputation (and consequent economic base of tourism) in the world. I beg all freedom fighters on the side of right to be empowered to settle this situation without further carnage and to properly remove the criminals from your streets. Sincerely, Linda M. Alvarez

Africa is a lost cause. Africans spend time finger pointing while their fate is slipping away. As far as this crisis is concerned, the whole world knows Kibaki is a thief. Even the EU observers who are notorious for validating rigged elections this time say it was a flawed elections. The ECK chairman too admits he is not sure who won. But Kibaki went ahead and coronated himself anyway, in the middle of the night to boot. How appropriate. What better time to steal.

Africa wake up. Aren't you tired of being raped by your own people. Young, old, educated, uneducated, civilian, soldier, you name it, they all end up in the same dumpter garbage heap of history.

The criminal here is Kibaki. And the crime is stealing an election. It is more like mugging. How an educated old man can stoop so is beyond civility. Africans wake up or better yet "grow up".

You are an absolute lier to call Kibaki a thief. I challenge you to check Raila and Kibaki histories. You will find thiat while Kibaki is famous for his integrity, forthrighness, honesty over his 40 years career in politics Raila has been detained several times by two presidents due to his subservice activities against two elected governments. If he did this before he could and did it again and is the one who engaged in rigging and thuggery. Raila is a power hungry maniac who has the making of amin and God forbid that he should ever be Kenya's president.

That is the irony of this. For somebody who served the country well for some many years to squander all that good will for the a presidency it is maddening. As for Amin, he like all tyrants started with celebratory dancing on the streets. But the end is always as prediticable as the sunrise. And I am not hear to dredge the past crimes of anybody rather I am try to focus on the current crisis. The evidence of Kibaki stealing the elections is already there what more do you need. Jumping from today to tomorrow or wherever and whenever is cowardly lying. What I am saying for Africa all their leaders start as darlings of the public they invariably exit disgracefully. A few exception need mention here: Mandela, Nyerere....

It is more maddening for Raila to incite his supporters to an extent that they kill innocent people all done to see Raila becomes Kenya's president. What is so special that Raila would do for Kenyans as a president that others have not done? Is that he would cut Kikuyus to size and distribute their properties to the Luos for free?

If evidence is there of how Kibaki rigged the elections why does Raila not want to take it to the courts as Kibaki is asking him to? Is it not because Raila is afraid that in the court process the truth will surface and he will be found to have engaged in rigging himself? And what reason would you give that would have made Kibaki throw the good will he has earned over his 40 years untainted political career for the sake of a 5 years' term as president?

God forbid that Raila should ever be Kenya's president!!

Its sad and dis hearting for a country like Kenya which had been on the forefront in Africa as a peaceful country, start bleeding due to selfish interest.

Here, I desist to point a figure at any politician like has been the case with most of the contributors to this forum, least it fuels more hatred and incites followers of respective politicians.

The forum, though good with all intent, but really the timing of it, is very wrong. This is the same blame games which have brought about loss of life in Kenya.

I have leaved in Kenya, for a better part of my life, and this the only General Election which, I have not been in Kenya. I have been an observer of Polls in numerous occasion. What is going on now in Kenya hasn't come to me as big surprise. Its been boiling and waiting to slip, and an opportunity presented itself. If we go back to Election 2002, rumors were rife everywhere how the then President was not going to accept relinquish power. Plan B was already in place by the same politicians (now leaders in power and opposition)to force him to give power to the people. Thanks God, the margins were high and Wisdom of the Incumbent to let go, though his close aides were not for it. I was deep in the villages covering the election and you should have had the redness villagers were to stage an uprising. God, Help Kenya this time round.

Please, lets think first before we bring up this type of forums more so after the 'fire' has ignited. Kenya tribal sentiments are very high and propaganda at its best.

Both the incumbent and other Presidential hopeful/s had plan B, after having the same strategies 2002. Its no surprise to the President what is happening now, if he rigged as claimed - he knew how much blood Kenya was going to shed.

I appeal to Kenyans more so the ones who feel aggrieved, here am not referring to the politicians, to think first before lifting that panga to slash a fellow brother or sister. Kenya is you the people not the politician. You make a choice and accept the result but let the politicians fight it out if they feel aggrieved. By you going to the street you are exercising you right to assemble but consider the risk you are putting yourself and those opposed to you opinion.

When this is over and done with, I will elaborate the tribal sentiments and historic perspective in Kenyan politics at state house and on the ground (village level).

God Bless Kenya.

Agreed totally , Raila's History is totally one Disagreements subversion etc please note that even Hitler could have won a "democratic" election with a landslide in 1939

I have just read the articles and am shocked beyond words. It is shocking that the comments are mostly from Kenyan's, most shocking bit is the fact that the first line of the email is a request for prayer for this dear country of ours. My comment would be that this forum should be spreading the word of peace and nothing else because pointing fingers will not get us anywhere as a country, kenyans let us wake up,be it kikuyu's luo's or whatever tribe. Let us not spread hate blood has been shade, women have been raped, things that have happened are endless. It is unfortunate but is this the way to get a solution to what we have found ourselves in as a country? If we are going to bring God into this, which we must, please the word of God says that when you go to pray and remember that you have an issue with your brother that has not been settled please go back settle it with him, thereafter pray. Because if we approach God but have issues our prayers are in vain. Let us learn to forgive, for us as a country to get a breakthrough we are not making matters better by accusing one another.

Regards