Author: faaarya
Thu Apr 24 11:17:56 2008

Arms ordered last year! Last year is only a short while ago when planning for this contested election was already in advanced stage. How do we know that the arms order was not part of a contingency plan for 'in-case-we-need-it' scenario as is the case now? Can China show the concerned world the relevant documents to attest to its assertion? Violent suppression of its citizens' rights of all forms is China's cup of tea and if any other government should wish to do the same to its own citizens is perfectly acceptable to China. And since China is so desperate to court Africa for its rich natural resource, arms supply to despotic regimes like Mugabe's is fair game irrespective of how that arms will be used and claim 'non interference in internal affairs of the recipient state. What nonsense China!

Author: onesoulzim1
Thu Apr 24 14:32:52 2008

Whatever war “British Europe” and its surrogates are fighting in Zimbabwe will not come to see a light of victory. Weapons can be delivered airborne, it is essential to recall the ship without canceling the order and stop the madness of such silly individuals hiding under well meaning organisations. Zimbabwe is not at war apart from idiotic mantra from financially and favorably oiled british puppets masquerading as non governmental organisations. The message is clear from Chinese foreign office that military professors are in Zimbabwe training local forces. If Zimbabwe unleash terror against its people then SADC, AU, UN are extremely qualified to DETECT and ACT not these nonsense Cosatu and connections who have taken it upon themselves to be front soldiers in a ten year british organised war against the well being of Zimbabweans. When Blair asked his generals to invade Zimbabwe no one protested, when Zuma is accused in an arms deal with Europe no one ask for the whereabouts and use of the weapons, when USA chief goes to the gulf states all what he can deal in is weapons, when Kenya is in bloodshed no one asked of weapons supplies from USA. Zimbabwe is not at war, and will never see chaos like in Kenya and other african countries because its electorate is highly literate. We know we can change governments through votes under properly constituted laws. We are being asked to decapitate each other’s head for leadership change as if we are a barbaric nation. Wild and insane armies have invaded Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon and Palestine and plundered Africa. These mentally challenged military juntas started 1st and 2nd world wars and dropped atomic bombs in Japan. We (Zimbabweans) will vote for new leadership and patiently follow legal due course. George Bush killed hundreds of thousands of American soldiers and innocent civilians within a five year period and no American is enticed to kill each other in order to remove him from white house – they will vote and follow their due legal course like before. Brown was given britain to rule by his friend Tony Blair without national consensus and british citizens are waiting to vote and follow their internal legal process that will usher new leadership. Why don’t you talk of them killing each other but Zimbabweans. Zimbabweans are not at all ignorant and do not need anyone’s foolishness to decide its fate. Zimbabweans are more than capable and unambiguously aware of what is at stake with their country. We will continue to defend these foreign induced wars with PRACE here in ZIM. Only PEACE will shield us from the enemy of north and protect our land. We have been reduced to be observers of our destiny by Britain’s insatiable appetite for other countries’ resources.

Author: awt_independent
Thu Apr 24 15:20:28 2008

What a load of nonsence. You claim Zimbabweans are so educated and literate yet all you need to do is take one look at the state of the country to realise what that the current Zimbabwean government has absolutely no idea how to govern. You cant blame western sanctions targeting the travel of Mugabe government officials for bringing down the Zim economy.

And the whole reason the arms shipment from China was stopped has nothing to do with "British Europe". They just commented on it. The PEOPLE of South Africa, the dock workers and transport unions refused to unload the ship, after their goverment signed an agreement to let it go through. Why? becuase they dont want blood on their hands.

PS you only have to hit Submit once to get your note posted. School boy error really...

Author: maaron33
Thu Apr 24 18:49:39 2008

onesoulzim, I am from the U.S. and I am with you! Our countries have been hijacked by thieves who thrive on the blood of the innocent. The people are not stupid and are standing up against the human rights atrocities that have been occurring in both our nations for far too long. History tells us that we will not allow the "elite" to oppress us. It is time that the plight of the people is recognized.

Author: zim -truth
Thu Apr 24 20:52:39 2008

There is no war that the British are fighting in Zim but its all the old bullshit and mischief dirty brainwork of Mugabe regime who paint a false picture with the saying 'Zimbabwe will never be a colony again' through MDC party by the British.What a heap of crock! They use this gimmick for campaigns against MDC but even the rural people of Zim reject this hype and so this mantra is used as an excuse to buy weapons to prepare for a possibility of a British coup d'etal invasion or appoint Morgan Tsvangirayi as their puppet.This is in the minds of the regime only as an excuse to hold on to power even refusing a democratic change enforced by the people through the ballot and instead of feeding starving people of Zim they venture into spending millions US dollars in weaponry. What a dissillusion!

Author: infogibbs
Mon Apr 28 01:01:22 2008

So you say that "there is no war that the British are fighting in Zim" ??? One VERY HUGE FACTS SEEMS TO ESCAPE YOUR MYOPIC NOTICE--The UK, US, and Europe has DECLARED A FINANCIAL WAR AGAINST ZIM! How? By cutting off the loans and credit lines that they use a carrots to control the economies of Africa. Where have you been? Have you had your head in a hole in the ground and your ass up in the air for the past seven years?

I have news for you who keeps their head in a hole--MOST AFRICAN CONTRIES HAVE ALREADY BEEN RE-COLONIZED!!!!!!!!!

Why do you think the hammer has come down on Mr Mugabe--duh could it be that he is resisting re-colonization? Duh--could it be that he is old enough to unstand the tricks that are used by the colonizers? I'm trying to talk person with head in a hole in the ground ass up in the air language here!

The MDC is a PUPPET--PUPPET organization of the ANGLO/AMERICAN DUAL WORLD POWER/EMPIRE!

Author: mindpower
Tue May 6 22:49:56 2008

What a load of rubbish. So the UK and US have stopped loaning the Zim govt money. Would you keep loaning someone money if they NEVER PAID IT BACK? Even Zambia is refusing to sell fuel to Zim because they never get paid. So howcome you don't declare Zambia as starting a financial war with Zim?

Grow up and face the facts. If you don't you will never get out of the mess you're in.

Author: nmdag1
Thu Apr 24 22:58:57 2008

What's wrong with the Chinese involvement in Africa? They are doing exactly what the Europeans did years ago but in a smart way, "divide to conquer". Fellow Africans wake up! Mugabe has lost touch with reality in his own country. The only people standing up for the people of Zimbabwe are the non-African governments like the US and UK. Shame on the SADCC! How can you let that happen right at your doorstep?

Author: infogibbs
Mon Apr 28 01:17:13 2008

NMDAG1--As usual the propagandist's have sent your smooth talking carcass to this message board to spin the usual jackal lies--you know which one's--the ones that White Supremists like yourself have been feeding the unsophisticated Africans for the past 600 years! Your time is up! You and your fellow jackals may just have to start planting gardens for awhile--like the rest of the civilized world has been doing for the past 6,000 plus years!

You can start by solving your class, religious, moral, and criminal problems--instead of exporting them out to rest of the civilized world--screwing up whole nations, and countries, and then TURNING AROUND AND BLAMING THOSE NATIONS THAT YOU AND YOURS HAVE SCREWED UP FOR THEIR INTERNAL PROBLEMS!!!!!!!! DOES ZIMBABWE COME TO MIND?

Author: awt_independent
Tue Apr 29 09:28:23 2008

Maybe if you ate that big chip on your shoulder you wouldnt be so hungry...

Author: Mafohla
Fri Apr 25 02:09:44 2008

Either you are mentally retarded or one of the people benefiting from the illegal raping of the Zimbabwean nation. What part of coersion, senseless beatings and murder is not tantamount to warfare. Soon enough the people of Zimbabawe will get sick and tired of being sick and tired and decide that enough is enough. They tried to change the regime through peaceful, legal and constitutional means only to have their vote stolen from them. The only language that you and your Zanu compatriots understand is the same language that you are metting out on the innocent people of Zimbabwe. Zimbabeans should arise and treat fire with fire. It is no longer prudent for them to stand on the sidelines and hope against hope that sanity would some day prevail in the minds of the monstrous Zanu PF criminals who are clinging to power. Power to the people!

Author: infogibbs
Mon Apr 28 01:31:04 2008

Mafola,

There is more going on around you than ZANA-PF. Yes they are in power, and yes they have been in power for a very long time. The White Rhodesian power structure hung on much longer than Mugabe has been in charge--where were you and your kind at when these White Supremist were killing 50,000 of your ancestors? Where was the UK's outrage during this slaughter?

Help me understand your mindset?

Author: kudzaidururu
Thu Apr 24 23:19:07 2008

when americans attacked Saddam, he had no weapons and to defend his country and so he was easily taken from hero to zero. america wants to maintain the ammunition advantage over an enermy but it seems Mugabe is already equiped to defend zim. in this case, he only wanted to add on to what he aready has in case of prolonged fights. if america is to itervine then they should halt their defence produce at moment to create a fair situation. don't think the fight is between Mugabe and Tvsangirai, its between Bush, Brown and Mugabe + probably China. zim has the right to get those weapons to protect their people

Author: onesoulzim1
Thu Apr 24 14:37:28 2008

Whatever war “British Europe” and its surrogates are fighting in Zimbabwe will not come to see a light of victory. Weapons can be delivered airborne, it is essential to recall the ship without canceling the order and stop the madness of such silly individuals hiding under well meaning organisations. Zimbabwe is not at war apart from idiotic mantra from financially and favorably oiled british puppets masquerading as non governmental organisations. The message is clear from Chinese foreign office that military professors are in Zimbabwe training local forces. If Zimbabwe unleash terror against its people then SADC, AU, UN are extremely qualified to DETECT and ACT not these nonsense Cosatu and connections who have taken it upon themselves to be front soldiers in a ten year british organised war against the well being of Zimbabweans. When Blair asked his generals to invade Zimbabwe no one protested, when Zuma is accused in an arms deal with Europe no one ask for the whereabouts and use of the weapons, when USA chief goes to the gulf states all what he can deal in is weapons, when Kenya is in bloodshed no one asked of weapons supplies from USA. Zimbabwe is not at war, and will never see chaos like in Kenya and other african countries because its electorate is highly literate. We know we can change governments through votes under properly constituted laws. We are being asked to decapitate each other’s head for leadership change as if we are a barbaric nation. Wild and insane armies have invaded Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon and Palestine and plundered Africa. These mentally challenged military juntas started 1st and 2nd world wars and dropped atomic bombs in Japan. We (Zimbabweans) will vote for new leadership and patiently follow legal due course. George Bush killed hundreds of thousands of American soldiers and innocent civilians within a five year period and no American is enticed to kill each other in order to remove him from white house – they will vote and follow their due legal course like before. Brown was given britain to rule by his friend Tony Blair without national consensus and british citizens are waiting to vote and follow their internal legal process that will usher new leadership. Why don’t you talk of them killing each other but Zimbabweans. Zimbabweans are not at all ignorant and do not need anyone’s foolishness to decide its fate. Zimbabweans are more than capable and unambiguously aware of what is at stake with their country. We will continue to defend these foreign induced wars with PRACE here in ZIM. Only PEACE will shield us from the enemy of north and protect our land. We have been reduced to be observers of our destiny by Britain’s insatiable appetite for other countries’ resources.

Author: djoser35
Fri Apr 25 03:32:12 2008

This is an excellent post onesoulzim1 and fair-mainded around the world wish the real Zimbabweans like you the best.

Author: djoser35
Fri Apr 25 03:37:19 2008

Great post onesoulzim1, notwithstanding cowards won't let support for you remain posted.

Author: onesoulzim1
Thu Apr 24 14:37:58 2008

Whatever war “British Europe” and its surrogates are fighting in Zimbabwe will not come to see a light of victory. Weapons can be delivered airborne, it is essential to recall the ship without canceling the order and stop the madness of such silly individuals hiding under well meaning organisations. Zimbabwe is not at war apart from idiotic mantra from financially and favorably oiled british puppets masquerading as non governmental organisations. The message is clear from Chinese foreign office that military professors are in Zimbabwe training local forces. If Zimbabwe unleash terror against its people then SADC, AU, UN are extremely qualified to DETECT and ACT not these nonsense Cosatu and connections who have taken it upon themselves to be front soldiers in a ten year british organised war against the well being of Zimbabweans. When Blair asked his generals to invade Zimbabwe no one protested, when Zuma is accused in an arms deal with Europe no one ask for the whereabouts and use of the weapons, when USA chief goes to the gulf states all what he can deal in is weapons, when Kenya is in bloodshed no one asked of weapons supplies from USA. Zimbabwe is not at war, and will never see chaos like in Kenya and other african countries because its electorate is highly literate. We know we can change governments through votes under properly constituted laws. We are being asked to decapitate each other’s head for leadership change as if we are a barbaric nation. Wild and insane armies have invaded Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon and Palestine and plundered Africa. These mentally challenged military juntas started 1st and 2nd world wars and dropped atomic bombs in Japan. We (Zimbabweans) will vote for new leadership and patiently follow legal due course. George Bush killed hundreds of thousands of American soldiers and innocent civilians within a five year period and no American is enticed to kill each other in order to remove him from white house – they will vote and follow their due legal course like before. Brown was given britain to rule by his friend Tony Blair without national consensus and british citizens are waiting to vote and follow their internal legal process that will usher new leadership. Why don’t you talk of them killing each other but Zimbabweans. Zimbabweans are not at all ignorant and do not need anyone’s foolishness to decide its fate. Zimbabweans are more than capable and unambiguously aware of what is at stake with their country. We will continue to defend these foreign induced wars with PRACE here in ZIM. Only PEACE will shield us from the enemy of north and protect our land. We have been reduced to be observers of our destiny by Britain’s insatiable appetite for other countries’ resources.

Author: mindpower
Thu Apr 24 16:43:44 2008

You go on and on about Britain like a typical Mugabe stooge, all the while ignoring the fact that Zimbabwe is being raped of its resources by China. Shame.

Author: Phiri
Fri Apr 25 01:39:07 2008

Not everybody who hates the British is a Mugabe stoog. I just think British people have preyed on Africans far too long, that even China looks beautiful. Britons insist too much about their own goodness, that eventual they sound silly, fake and really ugly. You Britons have the biggest mouths on this planet, you always feel that you should lead the world. Ahhhh the yankees do for now!!!

The UK pretty soon, will drop out of the top 25 weathiest countries in the world and China has already suppased you Britons. I'm sure I'm not the only African who find Anglo Britons unlovable. Sorry, we just have to agree to disagree. You, Britons, your time is up....You can still continue to be American's "Poodle" and that's fine with most of us.

Author: mindpower
Sat Apr 26 08:05:53 2008

So you hate "anglo Britons" because of what a few British politicians say? Should British people judge black Zimbabweans on the words of Mugabe?

If you're gonna hate someone for being critical of Zimbabwe why stop at Britain? Lots of other countries critisize the way things are being done in Zim, shouldn't you hate them all?

And please, don't pretend to not be a Mugabe stooge. The way you talk about "British recolonization" in your posts you could be his chief propaganda writer.

Author: infogibbs
Mon Apr 28 01:49:46 2008

Phiri,

Do your research! The greatest trick played on the world is now taking place right in front of your eyes...The UK and the US form what is the Anglo-American World Power!

The UK is the brains, and the US is the Enforcer!

Don't separate the two! Because they are one!

Author: infogibbs
Mon Apr 28 01:44:18 2008

Well at least they are paying for what they are taking-- the colonizers paid nothing! Who are you?

Author: allew609
Thu Apr 24 20:26:40 2008

Speak on bro!! The prophets of the generation are behind you in prayer. It is time to fully EXPOSE the British network for the world to see. May the judgments of the living God enter into their businesses, non-governmental organisations and governance institutions.

In this generation, we will also ensure that the African POSTER CHILD, that Britian and North America have used to brand AIDS, hunger and disease, is no longer permitted to grace any covers of magazines or posters. We will protect our children from becoming slaves in their economies and their academic institutions which are often used to brand Africans whilst stealing ideas conceived of by our children. Enough is enough with these roguish peoples pretending to be people or respectability.

Author: djoser35
Fri Apr 25 03:40:11 2008

Great post onesoulzim1, notwithstanding cowards won't let support for you remain posted.

Author: djoser35
Fri Apr 25 03:40:35 2008

Great post onesoulzim1, notwithstanding cowards won't let support for you remain posted.

Author: rooks.margret
Thu Apr 24 18:05:17 2008

hello Africa, i live in the united states. I have recently been hearing about all the dangerous things that are happening to the humble people in all parts of Africa. Our news out here usually covers middle east TERROISSM, and jokes about bush. In the seriousness of it all i want to begin sometype of movement in helping the helpless. If i had to waite for food or medicine, every second would count. The United States sadly to say, all we got are drug and and greed problems. This is my first attempt to reach out and at a computer. I dont know who will help me in my quest, or has any idea how to begin or where to start. But i want to start gathering large crowds from everywhere. AS if the world was one big school and we needed to make our statement as one. Represent our colors to the universe and say " we are somebody". WE do care about people. We do want our hearts filled with happiness. WE want to throw one big party where the whole world is invited for food and a day off of sadness and worries. Help me, help u, to help everyone. rooks.margret@yahoo.com

Author: amahoro
Fri Apr 25 06:27:05 2008

wooow, great ideas pal... but practically what do you want to do exactly? or is it still a hope/a dream?

Author: onesoulzim1
Fri Apr 25 14:28:41 2008

Awt-independent; get it right for the first time on blaming Britain and its cousins on Zim’s situation. Firstly it is evident that the Zimbabwean electorate no longer has total faith in the future of Mugabe administration, I don’t, my leader has seen his golden days and the sun is setting on him. Change is definitely coming. It is that change which the gluttonous British and their kith and kin want to take advantage of after having been overwhelmed by Mugabe on African land repossession. Britain and America virtually control all international finance institutions through their structures. Since 1997 IMF/World Bank suspended balance of payment support to Zimbabwe through British influence and economically, the effects on loans for national energy affects industrial production and ordinary man. In 2002 USA through Zimbabwe Democracy Bill instructed all International banks not to vote for loans/grants/credits advanced to Zimbabwe, this included even African/Asian Development Banks. There is no business that can take place when a country once colonized for 100 years by the same system can prosper; it has to start from ground. Since land was taken from the minority white settlers to the majority blacks indigenous, Tony Blair took it upon himself and his tabloids to demonise our national leadership so as to scare any would be future business partner for Zimbabwe and tourists who brought more revenue. Blair had the temerity to approach rival Gaddafi and African leaders to stop doing business with Zimbabwe. Why would this prophet of doom called Blair take his time to denounce a mismanaged economy that will fall on its own? Mbeki is writing a book after his term in office – today it’s about diplomacy. We were told its all about Mugabe and his cronies, what nonsense! Individuals can have houses anywhere in the world without affecting national economy. Was it about Lady Grace Mugabe who shops too much they said, what crap! My uncle runs a shop with more than 20000 dresses and shoes, if he closes shop the country’s economy does not feel a pinch! The world’s largest population is in transit so why the heck about Mugabe traveling if the whole world is traveling? Grounding Mugabe does not stop planes from flying, Europe and USA are afraid of the amount of influence this african intellectual will impart to the people at their door step. This British and American propaganda can only expose how foolish they think about African intellect. Our resources are at stake here, not dresses, houses nor bank accounts. It is the land, the mines and our industry that is being trodden. Since land repossessing, all British and American exporting business in Zimbabwe transferred their head offices down South Africa and established sister companies that imported mining and manufactured goods from Zimbabwe at under-invoiced petty prices. Our country has since been robbed of hard currency revenue through central bank. While UN gives assistance to health and education to the 3rd world and Zimbabwe is being skipped citing the preposterous good governance mantra. Is it not that health aid must increase where there is crisis? Why don’t we see humanitarian aid if Zimbabwe is so miserably managed? Blair and Brown talk of war and intervention very loud and clear while those non governmental organisations that are fed by their dirty money ululate. Yes, we have been facing a crisis for ten years thanks to your Brits. To my utter dismay, there are countries that receive enormous aid and having their debt cut but with their “good governance” can not meet the poor standards of ridiculed Zimbabwe today. I am forced to blame Mugabe right? Zimbabwe, being a pioneer land reclamation nation, is facing undue attention and needs to arm itself to the teeth. The west knows that the guns shipment is meant to kill those who are waiting to grab land for the second time that is why they are making scathing noise about Chinese shipment. Zimbabwe’s peace will be disturbed once those erstwhile enemies are back in town. For those who have chosen to dine and wine with the swine who robbed us of our essential human history – shame on you! They can hang as many of our prophets but they can not stop the tide of absolute freedom. This is the war we are to win, a war for everyone oppressed of their rights of creation. God created people need God given opportunities. Why do we have to fight the British in our own land? Why is British Europe so much interested in us? We are not having leaders killed in the streets like in Pakistan but Musharaff will address European business meetings after Bhutto is lifeless! Mugabe who wants to stick to the country’s laws is a despot! It is time Britain start to lobby for the rights of aborigines of Australia, Maoris of New Zealand, Red Indians of North America and then, we will take him seriously in Zimbabwe. Fairly through this revolution Mugabe has made mistakes as he is human but his mistakes are mistakes of our leader, mistakes to correct the anomaly left by British colonial establishment, mistakes we are proud to call them our mistakes. Hands off Zimbabwe. One Soul Africa!

Author: Sydney08
Fri Apr 25 19:16:21 2008

Onesoulzim1 you are seriously deluded and paranoid.We all know the history of colonisation of our country and the role that the British played.You are very mistaken to think that Zimbabwe is the only country that has an abundance of resources than any country in Africa.There are a good number of former British Colonies that have better resources than Zimbabwe, yet Britain is not bothered by those countries.I am from Zimbabwe and I would like to tell you that your anti-Western rhetoric is hypocritical.If you really feel that Americans and the UK are up to no good in Zimbabwe, then it would be better for you to join forces with those who are fighting America and UK in Iraq and other areas.In Zimbabwe we waged war against the imperialists and won.That era is over and we do not want to be reminded of a period that we dealt with almost thirty years ago.In Zimbabwe, there is no way in which we can claim to be a new civilization when it is well known that our country was built on Western Civilization.Mugabe himself and millions of Zimbabweans were educated through Western Universities which they are trying to deny a majority of Zimbabweans today.Why am I telling you this, the West has been in the fore-front of civilization in Africa for more than a century than any other block in the world.They had a fair share of injustices which everybody knows.However for us to keep singing that chorus for 28 years is retrogressive and parochial.You can question their foreign policy towards Africa, but to engage in confrontational attitude for an institution that has done more to Africa than any in the world is an indecent exposure of your cynicism.If you ask those Zanu-PF bigwigs where their children are, you will find that a majority of them are attending Western Universities, Why?Is it not a fact to you that industrialized nations such as UK and US are in the fore-front of promoting good governance in the world.Infact Mugabe should have been removed from power in 1987 when he massacred thousands of people from Matabeleland.However , because of his cunning political opportunism, he had been able to survive this long, because people like you have been unwantonly aiding him to cheat his way back to the presidency.Zimbabwe is a quagmire because of your lack of human feeling and greedy.It is no longer an issue of patriotism in Zimbabwe, but control and continuous exploitation of poor Zimbabweans.You want to involve the West for your shortcomings.If sanctions can cripple Zimbabwe that much, is that not proof that the country can not prosper without the assistance of the Western institutions? So fighting against these institutions is not productive on our part.America will be in the fore-front of Global initiatives across governments and organisations in many many donkey years to come.You need to be enlightened on that and there is nothing you can do about it than just throw yourself into croc infested river.Stop wasting your time with your sinking Zanu.Why are you appeasing the dead from the living?

Author: awt_independent
Tue Apr 29 09:47:19 2008

I didnt realise that the Maori people of New Zealand were having such a hard time. You seem to be an expert, can you elaborate on this please? Probably best you stick to topics that you know about is it dont you think?

Author: onesoulzim1
Sun Apr 27 06:58:45 2008

Sydney08, unfortunately you mistake governments and citizens, there are more British citizens who are doing good business in Zimbabwe and are against their government position on Zimbabwe, especially sanctions instituted through the World Bank and all other institutions stated in the Zimbabwe democracy bill of America. I agree with you that Zimbabwe needs all the international financial institutions to prosper but it seems you don’t get it that UK and USA through their bills are restricting board members of these institutions to advance loans/credits/grants/ balance of payment support to Zimbabwe. Our predicament today in terms of economic meltdown is directly an outcome of such financial incapacitations. It is rhetorical for you to say we waged war against imperialists and won without elaborating what you really won if it is not the return of land and control of resources that will empower ordinary folk through timeous evolvement. My good Sydey08, civilization is not an asset of the west; it is global property that is a product of universal contributions in humanity. Most books of civilization are non-European; they are mostly African, Asian and Arabic. Most scientific discoveries and the majority of modern day western scientists were Jews in Europe and America. Civilization therefore becomes a global phenomenon although you seem to confuse it with western literacy (read and write) brought by colonialism. Civilization in Africa started well before Christ but western writing (literacy) is only 150years old, and this bewilderment of bringing civilization to Africa was imparted by missionaries for supremacy advantages. Get it right that there is no era that lives in isolation in terms of human progression, since time immemorial, wars have been waged for the sole purpose of controlling land and resources. The demands of Nehanda Nyakasikana are today relevant and unchanged as are demands of wars fought during biblical times. You can not isolate Chimurenga Liberation War in today’s discourse. Your UK and US promoting good governance is a farce, Musharaff ruled Pakistan without going for votes with the backing of your masters, Hamas party won decisively in palestine elections and is not allowed to rule, Gordon Brown is not elected and britain is under an imperial queen who owns more than 7% of earth’s land acquired through banditry killings of races of the world. It’s amusing that you disagree with western foreign policy yet you being the foreign element you say you need the west. Changing political leadership is a prerogative of internal settlements if Zimbabwe chooses another leader today it is definitely NOT the business of western governments to inflict suffrage in poor nations so as to influence change. ZANU PF, MDC, UK, US or other political gatherings, political individuals and their mistakes will not change our resolve for a totally free and determined Zimbabwe but only our minds. We urge the west not to take advantage of our desired form of change. One Soul Africa!

Author: Phiri
Fri May 2 02:31:11 2008

solzim1, I did not know that they are economic sanctions on Zimbabwe! I thought it was just targeted against the leaders!!! Wikipedia, BBC, Mail & Guardian etc all say that they are no sanctions on Zimbabwe! Of cause, I know better why they is such denial about sanctions placed on Zimbabwe. White anglos fear the natives may resort to the "good old" practise of roasting ghosts (whites) during those good old time of tribal gatherings.

Author: kjrs120
Thu May 1 04:19:07 2008

For all of you hypocrites who cannot see further than your noses but are constantly wailing about the West and not seeing that the problem in Zimbabwe is Robert Mugabe, I say to you "Stand up!" Why? Because you are all sitting on your brains. You wear western clothes ,eat western food and flee to western countries whilst Mugabe is trampling on your brothers and sisters. Life expectancy is 34years of age, millions are fleeing from their motherland to neighbouring African countries to find food.Shame on all of you who continue to embrace Mugabe. All the Zimbabweans who fought and died during the liberation struggle must be turning in their graves because their vision was to liberate Zimbabwe for freedom - freedom of speech,freedom to assemble and to vote and freedom from a tyrannical government. Instead the people are left with a power-hungry incompetent old man who has destroyed the country and killed it's citizens and their spirit.Instead of giving the fertile farm lands to the masses to grow food and prosper, he has given it to his already fat cows who have amassed wealth beyond their fattest dreams and know nothing about farming. If China is such a good friend to Zimbabwe, why then has it not donated free food, medicines and free supplies that are in such short supply. China is only there to supply guns and useless things and to suck what ever money Mugabe is foolish enough to give in order to keep the people under his suppression. So, you think that the west is sanctioning Mugabe and not all the other African leaders because they are more handsome? Wake up!

Author: kubatana6
Sat May 3 15:03:39 2008

kjrs, YOU are the one that needs to 'wake up'. One hundred years ago you used this talk and African's believed you - not anymore! The world has changed and African's know what it's all about. It cant work this time.

Author: kjrs120
Sat May 3 22:55:22 2008

Kubatana, I agree with you 100% that the world has changed from 100years ago and that Africa knows what it's all about but unfortunately you have been left behind. Stop crying about the past. Africans are doing their level best to better their lives and leave all the hardships endured under colonial rule behind so why not move forward with them. Which country in the world has not been occupied and plundered by another? But guess what , these peoples have pulled themselves up and developed their countries. Look at India for instance. The British ruled plundered, divided and called them savages too. They know and remember it happened but they do not mope around about it. When you see Zimbabwe at present, do you see prosperity? Why do you think all Mugabe's big shots send their children to western countries for their education? Because apart from being hypocrites, they see no future for their children in Zimbabwe as things stand with their Mugabe. So please spare our ears with your old tune of the West. The first time we heard it , it was music to our ears but now it has become so boring because that is all you contribute to the readers.

Author: Be Free
Mon May 5 00:15:03 2008

Excellent kjrs120

Author: Be Free
Mon May 5 00:16:26 2008

Excellent kjrs120




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