Author: Tendai
Tue May 27 16:14:35 2008

Happy black American dude oblivious to the suffering of Zimbabweans, not knowing what he is talking about, supporting a regime that is systematically destroying the lives of 13 million people, black people.

Author: Norman Mataruka
Tue May 27 17:43:40 2008

Kwayedza wee ve Herald, wake up and smell the coffee! I think the truth is that BOB is indeed under pressure. Remember he can not say all the rubbish he used to say about Morgan because the truth is Morgan beat him on March 29. His campaign for the re-run will be full of this land nonsense, personal hate and nothing really of value! Herald yakangofanana ne Hure, pamusi wa 28 Juni they will be attempting to suck up to MDC because some foolish editor will need to keep a job! Chipepa chenhando, manje Tasvinura mabhoi! Morgan NDIZVO, kurohwa kana kunyengetedzwa netumagejo netungoro! Of cause these are the real signs of pressure! Manje maparara moatororo!

Author: J kama
Tue May 27 19:33:08 2008

Actually, this is a correct assesment of MDC_T misconducts. I am an African student living in the U.S, and I can tell you that, the U.S law is very strict on its citizens. Infact, I don't consider the U.S a free country. The gov't knows alot a bout you; and you can not hide even a little bit. You have a number to ID you, your financial record at every transaction etc.

In the U.S , the MDC-T would have been disqualified and deregistered long ago. Even in Europe, and the U.K in particular, there would be no party called MDC-T by now. Zimbabweans need to demand, as an electoral requirements, the source of funding for such a party. And any foreign backing should be construed as a sell out, unpatriotic, subversive, and an afront to neocolonialism.

From my personal experience, Zim may end up like Uganda, where the Founding Father Dr. Apollo M.Obote was considered a dictator by the west for opposing appatheid in S.A. He was overthrown from power twice in a military coup! But where are Ugandans now??? For the last 22 years, the current gov't sold out all national assets to foreigners, they have built no single hospital or school for the last 22 years. Health care and education and public sectors are in tatters; corruptions is now an official policy!!! All these are a stuck reminder that it is better to be governed by a nationalist than a foreign stooge like MDC-T!!

FORIEGNERS ARE NOW RUNNING ug ECONOMY, WITH THE REAL UGANDANS very deep in poverty!!The only infrastructures left are those built more than 22 years ago, and are falling apart because of systematic neglects!! I think, Zims will be better off to reorganize their economy under Zanu-PF by nationalizing all startegic sectors of the economy, with a combinations of Zim own Patriot Act to keep people like MDC-T out of business for coniving with imperialists!!

Author: mindpower
Tue May 27 21:25:26 2008

What's your evidence that MDC is a "stooge" party? You've been reading too much ZANU-PF propaganda!

Author: Nyarai
Tue May 27 22:08:07 2008

Are these comments from truly patriotic Zimbabweans or people on the pay roll of the political party that has been using tax payers money to kill innocent unarmed civilians for "voting wrongly"? The only party card I ever held was a ZANU PF card and yet I think that just like individuals parties need to to take a long hard look at themselves. How will the current regn of terror ever endaer ZANU PF to the average peace-loving Zimbabwean citizens? Read a helpful article below I think this will enable you to have an informed opinion about current events in Zimbabwe. Attitudes such as those dispalyed in this opinion clumn are just what has left ZANU PF where it now and the nation...in tatters. Survival of the Nation and people of Zimbabwe should come first before partyloyalty! As such I find the comments given unhelpful in trying to build up and heal a torn nation and therefore very uncaring and insulting to all Zimababwean nationalists regardless of their political affiliation, gender race and creed.

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A South African Cabinet minister has called on Zimbabwe's ruling Zimbabwe African National Union Patriotic Front (Zanu PF) party to "surrender power" to the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC).

Arts and culture minister Pallo Jordan said Zanu PF had "only itself to blame" if it had lost the confidence of Zimbabweans to the degree that it could win elections only by intimidating people or rigging polls.

"Any attempt by ZANU (PF) to cling to power through overt or covert violence will only compound its problems by stripping it even further of the legitimacy it won by leading the Zimbabwean people in their struggle for independence, freedom and democracy," he added.

Jordan's comments were made in an article published on the website of the ruling African National Congress, and marked as having been written in his personal capacity. The son of prominent South African researchers and writers, Jordan studied in Britain and the United States while in exile and has a longstanding reputation as an independent-minded ANC leader.

Responding to a recent article by two South African academics in a Sunday newspaper, Jordan argued against what he said was their suggestion that opposition to Zanu PF was "ipso facto illegitimate and necessarily counter-revolutionary, and therefore pro-imperialist...

"I do not support the MDC and my track record in the struggle against imperialism speaks for itself, but I differ most fundamentally..." Jordan wrote.

"It is precisely my commitment to the anti-imperialist agenda that persuades me that our two comrades are wrong. We will not assist ZANU

(PF) by encouraging that movement to proceed along the disastrous course it has embarked on. Offering it uncritical support because it is anti-imperialist will not help ZANU (PF) to uncover the reasons for the steep decline in the legitimacy it once enjoyed."

He said there were "disturbing parallels" between the arguments of the academics and those of American presidents who supported like-minded foreign governments, irrespective of whether they had democratic credentials.

Relevant Links Southern Africa South Africa Zimbabwe He added: "The questions we should be asking are: What has gone so radically wrong that the movement and the leaders who brought democracy to Zimbabwe today appear to be its ferocious violators. What has gone so wrong that they appear to be most fearful of it?"

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Author: sybhebhe
Tue May 27 22:57:41 2008

In a land of democracy my dear there is what is called opposition parties. They have every right to oppose the government in the name of democracy. Thats why in America they have the Replicans, democrates and liberals. Thats why in South Africa there is UDM, Inkatha Freedom Party and others. The list goes on and on and on. MDC T oz MDC-X or Z has every right to stand for office and oppose the Zanu government. Zanu has to prove them wrong by delivering than victimising its own citizens, or even trying to kill the opposition of any kind. A constructive government will always welcome be it positive or negative opposition. Where does Zanu stand?

I am from Africa but living in USA. What you are saying about the USA or the government knowing everything about you or ya bank its just one of those lies, said by people to mislead the world. Like every country, America has its black sports, but the fact that you left Uganda and found yourself here in America means there is a lot of good happening in America that you could not find in your own country Uganda. So dont bite the hand that feeds you.Honesty is the key.

Corruption, corruption,corruption.The problem with Uganda like most of the African countries is the corruptions of its politicians, not privatisation or globalizaton. The former Kenyan president Mabuto Seseseko was once said to be richer than his country. Thats the true story of African leaders. Greed and pride. Nations have been destroyed for those two.

What Zimbabwe need now is a functional government. A goverment for the people by the people. A government that will put the affairs of the country first. Leaders with hearts. Leaders who have the interests of the nation at heart. A goverenment that will rebuild and unite that country for the good of the people. Not to make themselves rich and richer than leaders of very rich countries like USA and UK.

Author: Glyph
Wed May 28 16:53:07 2008

You have a number to ID you? Really? Sounds positively Orewllian. Do they tattoo it on you or is it stored on a chip under your skin?

Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly, No punishment without law, Due Process in the courts, Freedom to keep and bear arms, freedom to worship, freedom of expression and an election every four years. It can't be that bad if you're a voluntary guest of the US Government. Maybe you'd prefer to be in Zimbabwe?

Hmm I wonder if the Department of Homeland Security are watching?

Author: mindpower
Tue May 27 19:16:17 2008

Why should Morgan use the word "sanctions" when there are no sanctions against Zim?

Typical Herald propaganda. What a load of rubbish.

Author: sybhebhe
Tue May 27 22:06:34 2008

Lloyd Whitefield Butler Jnr,its either you have very little knowledge about the laws of your own country and ignorant about Zimbabwe and its history or you are simply stupid and trying to make a living through misleading the mass by writing about things you know little or nothing about.If you were a Zimbabwean having fled your own home because of hunger and violence, surely you would be singing a different tune today. What Zimbabweans need now is a change of government and to rebuild that country not people like you who will just bring themselves in to kick the dust, cause confusion and leave people killing each other without solving anything.

Right now in times when American economy is at its worse, the unending Democratic primaries,recesion kicking in and the president Bush at his lowest rating running around like a headless chicken looking for gas favours in Middle East,its time for people like you to keep more focused in the affairs of ya own country, just in case you can be of some positive help like creating employment to the unemployed black in ya country. Do you know what Mugabe did to the 2000 Ndebele people in Matebeleland? If it was in America, tell us what would have been done to him/Mugabe? How many people have died under the ZANU flag since Mugabe started to rule that country? How many Zimbabweans have left their land of birth and origin ever since the nineties? Why did they leave? Do you bother to know. Mr, don't just kick in with your little knowledge of history and law and think you will convince the world on ya stupid idealogy based on zero research. How many Zimbabwean leaders died mysterious deaths after crossing paths with Mugabe. Its is the responsibility of any government in power to provide shelter to its own residents/citizens not MDC. It is the reposnibilty of the government to provide employement to its own citizens not MDC. It is the responsibilty of the government to protect the wealthy of the nation and manage the economy and inflation not MDC. It is the responsibilty of the government to provide its citizens with protection sound security systems, not MDC. It is the reponsibilty of the government to deal with crime and provide a safe environment to its citizens,not MDC. It is the role of the government to prodive and promote unity within its borders to promote peace tranquility and prosperity for its citizens,not MDC.

Today there are about 3million Zimbabweans thought to be in South Africa as illigal imigrants. Those innocent people have just become victims of xenophobia not because they chose to, but just because their government destroyed the land and prospered themselves only. What about those who died under this violence. I dont actually blame South Africans for that because if the Mugabe regime was doing so well none of those people would have run away to South Africa. Whoever imagined that one day the Zimbabweans will be economic and political refugees? The sanctions did not just come upon Zimbabwe due to its geographical location. They were imposed for the reasons we all know. Mugabe had a choice to avoid or to welcome them. He chose the latter because he wanted to prove himself to be a tough guy. Everybody who has done political science will tell you why countries get sanctions. So lets not play stupid and try to shift the bug to Mr Tswangirai.

Mugabe freed the country from the oppresion of the British, and later realised that the British had not done a good job, so he had to show the whole world that he could do it better that Smith. I really think he has proven that so well. Mission accomplished, he surely has done a better job than the Smith regime. Job well done Mr Mugabe. Was it through the help of Mr Tswangirai?

Author: Nyarai
Tue May 27 22:18:27 2008

I more than Agree with Sybebe...years ago when ZANU PF was still thinking straight and speaking and practising reconciliation for nation building we had a slogan "vasingazive ngavadzidziswe"!Roughly translated..."those who do not know should be educated!" This is why I think Lloyd Whitefield Butler Jnr. should take some time to read Pallo Jordan before making irresponsible comments that are least helpful to the nation and people of Zimabwe at this point in time.

Author: fatheramin
Tue May 27 23:39:42 2008

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Author: buddhamate
Wed May 28 07:37:46 2008

It's a bit late in the day to be comparing U.S law to that of Uncle Bob's Kingdom,where the punishment for putting the X in the WRONG box is a beating, hot molten plastic dripped over your battered body your homes burnt and bloody hell look out if you won a seat! Nobody wants to see a return to colonialism in Zimbabwe or any where in Africa,but they do want to see a real democratically elected government that is open and respects all of it's citizens.There are three sides to every story yours, mine and the TRUTH see if we can all get alittle closer to the third option please!

Author: Glyph
Wed May 28 09:26:24 2008

The, "Journalist" who composed this article states his name address as, "Lloyd Whitefield Butler, Jr. Descendant of African Slaves in America 295 Clinton Avenue – Suite F9 Brooklyn, New York 11205." He also says, "The Herald is excellent for political and economic discussions and public interest".

I'm thinking this gentleman is slightly less than fair and balanced. *LMAO*




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