For starters the BBC is not funded by the british government, it is funded by the british people.

Almost every fact in this article is false. I await the claims that i'm just an imperialist evil do-er.

Good on ya mate! Democracy is not something they understand in Zimbabwe, as the ZBC is controlled by the State. If only the truth could get broadcast to the masses. You are certainly not "an imperialist evil do-er" in my eyes.

HERE IS THE TRUTH!

An interesting reflection on, and a wake-up call for, social and political organization in the cultures of Africa , published in the Nigerian Daily Trust newspaper.

Posted to the web 25 October 2007

I Agree with Dr Watson - by Idang Alibi A few days ago, the Nobel Laureate, Dr James Watson, made a remark that is now generating worldwide uproar, especially among the blacks. He said what to me looks like a self-evident truth. He told The Sunday Times of London in an interview that in his humble opinion, black people are less intelligent than the White people.

Since then, some of us cannot hear anything else but the outrage of black people who feel demeaned by what Watson has said. So many people have called the man names. To be expected, some have said he is a racist. Some even wonder how a "foolish" man like Watson could have won the Nobel Prize. Even white people who, deep in their heart, agree with Watson want to be politically correct so they condemn the man. Why are we blacks becoming so reactive, so sensitive to any remarks, no matter how well-meaning, about our failure as a race? I do not know what constitutes intelligence. I leave that to our so-called scholars. But I do know that in terms of organising society for the benefit of the people living in it, we blacks have not shown any intelligence in that direction at all. I am so ashamed of this and sometimes feel that I ought to have belonged to another race. Nigeria my dear country is a prime example of the inferiority of the black race when compared to other races. Let somebody please tell me whether it is a manifestation of intelligence if a people cannot organise a free, fair and credible election to choose who will lead them. Is it intelligence that we cannot provide simple pipe-borne water for the people? Our public school system has virtually collapsed. Is that a sign of intelligence? Our roads are impassable. In spite of the numerous sources that nature has made available to us to tap for energy to run our industries and homes, we have no steady supply of electricity. Yet electricity is the bedrock of industrialisation. When you agree with the school of Watson, some say you are incorrect because all these failures are a result of poor leadership. Why must it be us blacks who must always suffer poor leadership? Is that not a manifestation of unintelligence? In the name of international trade, bilateral co-operation, globalisation and other subterfuges, the norm in the world today is for smart people to appropriate the wealth of other people for themselves and their countries. But more among the blacks than any other race, the practice is to steal from their own country and salt away to other people's country. Is it intelligence that our leaders steal billions of naira and hide in other people's country? Anywhere in the world today where you have a concentration of black people among other races, the poorest, the least educated, the least achieving, and the most violent group among those races will be the blacks. When indices of underdevelopment are given, black people and countries are sure to occupy the bottom of the ladder. If we are intelligent, why do we not carry first when statistics of development are given? Look at the African continent. South Africa is the most developed country because of the presence of whites there. This may be an uncomfortable truth for many of us but it exists nevertheless. If the whites had been driven away after independence, we would have seen a steady decline of that country.

In terms of natural endowment, Africa ought to be the richest of the continents but see the mess we have made of the potential for greatness which God in his infinite wisdom has bestowed upon us. We have proved totally incapable of harnessing the abundant natural resources to become great. Today, there is a renewed scramble for the wealth of Africa. China, our new "friend", does not bother about the genocide against fellow blacks in the Sudan by the Arabs who control the affairs of that country. They say they do not want to interfere in the internal affairs of any country. All they want is the oil in Sudan to run their industries. Yet, we blacks have not seen the Chinese action as an affront to our sensitivities. Every race takes us for granted because we are so weak and so foolish, if you permit me to say it.

I am really pained by our gross underachievement as a race. Instead of regarding bitter truths expressed by the likes of Watson as a wake-up call for us to engage in sober reflection, we take to the expression of woolly sentiment. For me, this type of reaction is a further evidence of our unintelligence. A man of intelligence recognises genuine criticism against him and takes steps to improve himself in order to prove his critics wrong. But for us blacks, our reaction is to abuse the man who expresses worries about our backwardness. Other races are deeply worried about us because we are a problem to the world. We suffer from the five Ds: disorderliness, debts, diseases, deaths and disasters. Our disorderliness affects others or else they won't be too bothered about us. Many are afraid because our diseases could infect them. Polio has been eradicated all over the world yet it is still found in Nigeria here. When they give us money to help us eradicate it, our thieving officials will embezzle the money; the virus will spread and endanger the health of not only our people but other people as well.

Out of a shared sense of humanity, some cannot bear to see how we die in thousands almost every day from clearly preventable diseases and causes. For years now, our people die extremely painful but perfectly preventable deaths from buildings which collapse because they were poorly constructed. How can you tell me we are as intelligent as others when we set traps for ourselves in the name of houses and others do not do so? Some people are extremely frustrated about us. If they have a way of avoiding us, they will be too glad to do so because we are a problem.

As I write this, I do so with great pains in my heart because I know that God has given intelligence in equal measure to all his children irrespective of the colour of their skin. The problem with us black people is that we have refused to use our intelligence to organise ourselves socially and politically. It should worry us that we do not invent things. We do not go to the moon. Our societies are not well-organised. We have the shortest lifespan of all the races. Something must be wrong with us. Why are we not like others? Our scholars will be quick to say that these are not the only ways of measuring intelligence. They will quote other scholars to adumbrate their point, but the fact remains that we are not showing intelligence. Others are showing it more than we're doing. If they are not more intelligent than we are, let someone tell me how to put it. God himself must be frustrated with his black children. They must be an embarrassment to him. He has given us everything he has given to other of his children; why are his black children not manifesting their own gift? A few years ago, the whites used to contemptuously call the Japanese "little Japs". Today, the Japanese and other Asians have pulled themselves up by the bootstrap and have arrived. No one speaks of the Japanese or Asians with contempt anymore. When people like Watson speak about us in unedifying terms, we should take it as a challenge to prove them wrong by sitting down to plan how we can become world-beaters. If our political leaders are the reason for our backwardness, we should resolve to get the kind of leaders who will be instrument for our rapid progress. I may not know how intelligence is measured but my limited knowledge of intelligence is that it can also be measured by the kind of leaders a people decide to have. If, for instance, our professors preside over the massive rigging of elections, it means that we do not have very intelligent professors. Such rigged elections will no doubt produce unintelligent leaders. Such unintelligent leaders will do stupid things which will prove that we are not as intelligent as other races. Do I sound confusing or intelligent? I am ready for some of our 'patriotic' intellectuals who will write and abuse me for the 'outrage' I have expressed here but I stick to my guns: we lack intelligence and as stated in the Bible, anyone who lacks intelligence should cry unto God who is the custodian of wisdom to bestow some upon him. We should go on our knees today and ask God why we do not appear as intelligent as our other brothers. I am confident God will reveal to us what we must do, and urgently too, to change our terribly unflattering circumstances.

The BBC is a subsidized news media outlet and the truth of the matter it is not a private news media like CNN, New York Times etc. That is why there is so much rubbish about Zimbabwe. The overemphasis on Zimbabwe, as if it is the only African country, has lowered BBC standards. Everything about Zimbabwe goes, even the most idiotic propaganda on Zimbabwe can be found on BBC. Most Africans now consider BBC just another British tabloid. If I want to see ugly pictures of my fellow country men, I go on the BBC website! Even, Morgan Tsvangirai supporters find the pictures of Zimbabweans fun and most of them from people who are in hospital or posed. What a waste of talent. The whole whole African section entirely on Zimbabwe for what! for 30,000 anglo Britons in Zimbabwe?

Phiri don't you ever give up? Time and time again I have proven to you that Zimbabwe only gets a few articles at most out of a large number on the BBC Africa news page.

At this moment BBC Africa has 3 articles on Zimbabwe out of 45. Anyone can verify this by going to:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/default.stm

YOU CANNOT HIDE FROM THE FACTS PHIRI. ENOUGH OF YOUR LIES!

a quote from Phiri... "Zimbabwean leaders are good at blaming everybody, but themselves. Mugabe blasts President Mwanawasa and Tsvangirai, at every opportunity blasts President Mbeki, as if he is the sole source of the problems in Zimbabwe." I couldnt believe it.

I couldn't believe it either, but then I suspect it's because he has Zambian relatives and Mugabe / Herald were attacking Zambians. Funny how people change their tune when their family is affected by something huh!

Phiri, going along with your assertion that the BBC is highly biased against zimbabwe and mugabe solely because it is a provisional arm of the British Govt as it receives a subsidy and falls way short of high calibre media organisations like CNN...why is it then that CNN is banned from zimbabwe???

The only idiotic propaganda I manage to read without putting my fist through my monitor is the crap oozing out of the Herald...a wholly owned govt mouthpiece that sees absolutely no wrong in mugabe. And in an attempt to disparage Sentamu for speaking out against mugabe it portrays him as a labour mouthpiece by stating he votes labour...where is the evidence for this bit of fiction?? Such sloppy journalism belongs in the gutter mate and no wonder the Herald is outsold daily by the other journals telling the truth. you cant lie to the people all of the time mate...if people's experience on the street is shortages after shortages and violence at the hands of uneducated thugs called green bombers..you cant then write columns the next day blaming the west for this! people are not as stupid as the rest of the zanupf voting lot..they can see through the tissue of lies spun daily by this substandard rag! which is why govt agents went as far as bombing the press that printed the only paper that was telling the truth...and why they recently intercepted a truck ferrying newspapers from SA filled with the truth and set its cargo alight!

We can only pray your eyes will one day be open to the abuses of this evil little hitler and his goons the Criminal Idiotic Organisation...i.e CIO!!!

Bollocks!!!

>>The deaths of thousands of Zimbabwean children due to starvation and preventable diseases as a result of the blockade<<

What blockade? Absolute garbage. Where does most of Zimbabwe's aid come from now that Mugabe has destroyed the economy?

>>The deaths of thousands of Zimbabwean children due to starvation and preventable diseases as a result of the blockade<<

What blockade? Absolute garbage. Where does most of Zimbabwe's aid come from now that Mugabe has destroyed the economy?

Remember the English carried out heinous, replesive and undemocratic rule in Rhodesia. Mugabe never voted or participated in elections till he was 60 years old. He was not allowed and forbidden by the racist rule of the English in Rhodesia. Talk of Democracy! Whose demos-carass? You guys come out in a righteous mode when you never practised "DEMOCRACY" in your Rhodesia. I was born and grew up in Rhodesia and so l should know. Why is it that the English wont let go of Great Zimbabwe like the did elsewhere eg India, Pakistan. Look at the trouble in Northern Ireland where you guys decided to hang onto a part of what belonged to the Irish. You went to war over the Suez with Egypt's Nasser because you English thought you owned the canal. LET GO OF ZIMBABWE.

Rhodesia was independent of Britain from 1965. Blaming Britain for Rhodesian policies shows your ignorance. Who do you think helped fund ZANU-PF to overthrow the apartheid government? The British!

So you are saying that because the current situation is becoming less and less democratic, that its ok, because when the whites ruled Zim, they did the same? So Mugabe is turing into the white man you so despise.

We were trained by the Chinese to point and shoot the British rhodies between their eyes, and that’s exactly what we did until the enemy bowed down to some talk. All this was in from the great lands of Mozambique. All our revolutionary songs were anti-british.

"We were trained", "our revolutionary songs".

Are you trying to tell us you are a war vet?

If you continue to blame the English for the sh!thole that is Zimbabwe you will continue to suffer. How about you look forwards and stop being divisive and then you might find away for Zimbabwe to get out of this mess. As far as I'm concerned, if you continue to be negative, bitter and twisted about the past, then you deserve all that you get. You didnt see Nelson Mandela get out of prison and start pointing his finger at who was to blame for his imprisonment now did you. Now he was a great man. Mugabe may have been great. Now he's just destroying his reputation by allowing (and causing?) the violence that is going on in his country. How dare a leader of his caliber turn on his people so freely. Why doesnt he try to include everyone and look fowards rather than dividing the country in 2 and making matters worse? Its a downward spiriling circle....

Why havent we seen pictures of these thousands of starving/dying children? What lies - you should be ashamed of yourself!

Here we go again, you really are a stuck record. We've posted the pictures Kuba, do you really need to be reminded so often?

What was your evidence that people are not starving? Oh that's right, pictures of election queues! All those people weak from hunger were bound to go to an election queue to have their photo taken right? :-D

"one meal a day should be more than enough for anyone" - Kubatana6

So how many meals are you eating daily in New Zealand? Best go back to Zim where the food is abundant. You could buy some food from one of these supermarkets:

http://www.msf.org.au/images/field%20update/zimbabwe-2-Dirk-Jan-Visser.jpg http://media.artdiamondblog.com/images2/ZimbabweEmptyShelves.jpg

Kube, you've seen these pictures about 5 times now, yet you keep asking for them... are you blind?

indie, if we have to search internet sites to see these starving Zimbabweans then that is even more proof that it is a fabricated lie. Hey why arnt these pictures been flashed all over BBC, CNN or any other news channel? Now dont say it's because camera's are banned in Zimbabwe ok. With todays technology NO government can stop thousands of pictures from being released. So why arnt they easily available? YOU CANNOT ANSWER THAT CAN YOU?

Well.. yes I can actually. For a start, the media is mostly banned from reporting in Zimbabwe. Can I ask you why this is? Who is afraid here of the truth getting out? What has Mugabe got to hide? ... I suggest you read this if you're not sure - http://allafrica.com/peaceafrica/resources/00011557.html And to search the internet, well the internet is a great resource for the world to use. How else are you going to get pictures? post a camera to someone in Zim and ask them to send some pictures back? dont be rediculous. Welcome to the modern world of the internet buddy, maybe you should use it and see what is really going on in the world and stop making rediculous comments. A question for you. Why is there a need for all these aid agencies? And why has the government pulled them out? Because over 1 million people rely on food from outside to live. Without it they will starve. Why has Mugabe done this? Why does he not care for his people? Its very sad.

PS I hear its snowing in New Zealand? Must be really tough for you. Can I send you a blanket? You poor thing. Maybe you should think of returning to Zimbabwe where its nice and warm and safe and you can live to 70 with your 3 meals a day without fear of dying because of the box you happen to tick in an election. This is sarcasm for the record.

I really wonder what Kuba is doing in New Zealand. I'm guessing he's got some connection to ZANU-PF, like working in the Zimbabwe High Commission there. Come on Kuba, tell us what this job is that "keeps" you from going back to fun, safe, prosperous Zimbabwe.

indie, you are really thick - things just dont seem to register with you. If we have to search the internet for these pictures then it cant be as bad as you say. There are people visiting Zimbabwe from overseas everyday with camera's - they are not banned from taking photo's. So why arnt these photo's getting to the BBC and CNN? The BBC and others are banned because of the fabricated lies reported and you and your cronies are doing it too! So you claim that 1 million Zimbabwean's are starving....well try yesterday's report that 3 million are starving in Somalia and where are all you 'DO GOODERS' - putting pressure on Zimbabwe instead. You are a disgrace to mankind!

Kube.... have a read of the following article and try and tell me its not as bad as I say.

http://allafrica.com/peaceafrica/resources/view/00011557.pdf

Have a read and I welcome your comments. I dont even think you care enough about Zimbabwe to read the whole document.

By the way, hows New Zealand? Must be pretty tough for you over there? You never reply? I just hope you're ok because I'm worried about you mate, I hear its pretty rough over there and I'd hate for you to be cold. I hear its been snowing. Can I send you a blanket? You poor thing.

Only a moron could complain that people want to do good for a country. BTW Kuba, you forgot to mention that aid workers have been kidnapped and killed in Somalia. I bet you wouldn't risk your life to help people there, hypocrite that you are.

Kuba the stuck record keeps turning.

Anyone who wants pictures of some of the atrocities in Zim should go to http://www.sokwanele.com

What a lot of codswallup. Blame it on the British again...go on. I am convinced that if this were Ian Smith behaving like Mugabe then ALL of Africa would be up in arms, there would be no more silent diplomacy and it would not be a matter for Zimbabweans only to resolve. I would even go one step further in saying that some Western countries would do a lot more to remove this repressive dictator post haste.

You white Rhodesians need to get it straight, people choose who they want to love and to hate. Clearly most Africans prefer their own black dictators than the rotten imposed white Rhodesian rubbish. Black Zimbabweans rejected your lot loud and clear. Your Ian Smith died in an obscure nursing home and very few people in Zimbabwe cared or moaned the white racists Rhodesian. There was no national mourning day in Zimbabwe. Sometimes to be a white Rhodesian can be a very confusing things.

LOL, typical Phiri nonsense. I can just see him in a cheerleading squad chanting "White Rhodesians, White Rhodesians, anglo, anglo, anglo". :-D

a quote from Phiri... "Zimbabwean leaders are good at blaming everybody, but themselves. Mugabe blasts President Mwanawasa and Tsvangirai, at every opportunity blasts President Mbeki, as if he is the sole source of the problems in Zimbabwe." I couldnt believe it.

What a load of rubbish. Totally factually incorrect lying propaganda. You can fool some of the people...... etc but you will be found out in time.

There is a lot of truth in this piece unless someone is as daft as a brick.Why do people always cry propaganda when dirt is dug out about the usual neo colonialists/colonialists tricks?

The fact is that NEO-COLONIALISM WILL NEVER WORK IN AFRICA.. MAYBE those that are unrepetant should try to PRACTICE IT ON MARS.

It is not unknown that AFRICANS ARE TIRED OF THESE NEO-COLONIALIST ANTICS OF RACISM,OPPRESSION,GREED,BACKHANDERS,CRONYISM USING AID,ETC.

Lastly... a lot of africans have a complete dislike of colonialism/neo colonialism,racism and no wonder many in their multitudes fought and died fighting against SUCH.

You are imagining things again.

Face it mate after you lot have have made a complete mess of everthing no one in thier right mind would have anything to do with Zimbabwe. Even the Chinese are side stepping Mugabe. Then again it is never your fault.

what rubbish, mugabe has violated more UN charters than anyone else.the children are dying, morons because zimbabwe has a president called robert mugabe. not because of the uk the bbc the western world but because he (mugabe) used zimbabwe as his personal banker his money sits in malaysia not in zimbabwe his interest are in switzerland and malaysia and DRC. he doesnt need zimbabwe other than to milk the last vestiges of what was a good country. but who cares, if zimbabweans want to prosper get rid of mugabe. if you want to suffer more vote him back into power. simple . the west doesnt give a rats arse if zimbabweans sink or swim. but mugabe should be in the Hague in front of a court for crimes against humanity.

Thank you, seriously how much food in the supermarkets is made locally....none! This is because no produce is being grown in the country because no one who currently lives on the farms knows how to farm, farms that size. Mugabe has brought this upon himself he has brought starvation upon his people because he is a racist Homophobe. He chased Zimbabwe's main income out of the country and then wonders why there is no food in the supermarket. Britain is not killing Zimbabwe Mugabe is!!!!!

Is that really so.. I think I get it now. The corruption in Zimbabwe is also because of the labour party.. -The political violence is also due to the labour party.. -The polarisation of the Zimbabwean society is also a creation of the BBC and the Labour Party.. -The stolen votes in 2002 and the ignoring of the election results in the last election is due to the BBC and the Labour Party.. I think you're smoking some funny stuff. African leaders are misleading the world by tolerating tyrants to mislead all in the name of Pan Africanism, (which is greatly misunderstood). - Are you saying China's sending of weapons to an army who have vowed not to be ruled by a victor (2 days after an election) is having Africa at heart and understanding Africa or it is another partition for Africa by a new Economic powerhouse. Africa should stand up and play the victor and not the victim, Accountability should be the order of the day not this blame game greedy leaders play when all their poor policies and greed affect the people so much that even they see it.. So Sam, it's not about the Labour, Conservative, ANC parties, BBC or whoever else you were taught to blame, it's about Accountabilty in Africa..

This guy should work for the Herald

If I was a Mugabe supporter I would be so embarrassed of being constantly corrected by my counterparts because of my lack of knowledge and screwed up notions of the world at large.

Your white anglos real still believe the UK has a role in Zimbabwe! or for that matter elsewhere in Africa...... Africans no longer consider the UK as a problem solve for it's problems. Trade with the asian and far east countries has already surpassed trade with the UK. The UK is not invited to most trade or political gathering organised by the African Union. It is a decline in influence that some of you need to understand and get over. Zimbabweans do not care much about white anglo and their rubbish colonial remains in Zimbabwe.

Phiri, you change colours like a chameleon. YOU are always blaming the British and the rest of the West for Zimbabwe's downfall. WE have been telling you for ever more, that Britain and her allies have neither hand in Zimbabwe's turning to dust, nor are they losing any sleep over it. All the imaginary sanctions you have been dreaming about are just that. YOU are finally admitting in your own words that the UK has no hand in African affairs anymore. ALLELUIA, you have finally come to your senses.

By your comments you insult the intelligent black folk world over who have seen the murderous mugabe for who he really is. for whenever someone points this out to you, your natural reaction is to label this person a racist bitter white ex rhodesian. And yet there are many black zimbabweans now living abroad some by choice but many out of fear for their very lives who hold the very same views expounded by those you label "bitter, ex rhodie white racists". That my friend is an insult to your fellow zimbabweans. yes by all means love your dictator as you put it, but dont impose his odious views and actions on us and expect us normal thinking people to fall in love with your dictator too. We hate him not because he is harming white people...most have now left...we hate him for what he is doing to the reputation of africa but most of all we hate him sokuti ari kuuraya hama dzake sokuti varamba kumuvotera. Izvi ndvizvo zvirikurwadza moyo wedu tose. Mazita aripano haazi mazita educhaizvo. Saka kutunga vanhu vari kuchemara nyika yavo uchiti varungu, maracist...ah..shamwari..urikurakidza kuti panezvime zvinhu zvakupfuuridza! For my non shona speaking friends on here I will translate the last lines above. I have pointed out to our "friend" here that he must not assume a racial stereotype based on the nom-de-plumes used here. That the distate expressed on here is against the killing of africans bya fellow african..i.e mugabe and how it hurts us all and wondering how expressing this hurt then qualifies us as bitter ex rhodie racists. I finally pointed out to him that his repeated and baseless character assasinations on anyone who dares question mugabe's actions as racist show he might have missed one or two facts and the truth has passed him by!

Excellently put turnex but unfortunately I doubt it will mean much to Phiri. His predictable response will be to change his label of you from "racist Rhodie" to "anglo-puppet". :-(

Thank you mindpower. WE can only but try. I am now waiting for my new label...LOL

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"The deaths of thousands of Zimbabwean children due to starvation and preventable diseases as a result of the blockade are blamed on President Mugabe". Now they acknowledge thousands are starving to death and yet they suspend charities and NGO's giving aid to those who are starving. The IQ's in ZANU PF just keep on rising don't they?

I actually think we should just fly 100 C17 missions over there every week and drop food out the back. Then when we are asked politely by ZANU PF to stop feeding the population we do just that: Then listen to the deafening silence from ZANU PF, SADC and the AU as they try to figure out what the hell they are going to say without looking even more idiotic. "I am sorry you were feeding our people without government accreditation please cease and desist your humanitarian effort which is in direct contravention of our sovereignty and our borders and let our proud people starve in accordance with international law"?!?!

William Wilberforce the slavery abolitionist was an independent MP who from the day of his election announced he was, "not a party man"!

I think that’s as far as I'm going to go with this usual Herald dross except for dropping to their level for a just a moment.

What a bunch of toss!

Glyph and all good people, as you all are aware by now, another one of the many unthinkables is happening in Zimbabwe.ALL foreign food aid has been banned and all international aid agencies shut down. Mugabe is resorting to hunger and starvation as one of his weapons of choice. Food aid is a lifeline for many, over 4 million provided with aid within just a few months. Hunger is stalking the rural areas mostly, where malnutrition is claiming the lives of babies in particular, as the government will only feed its own supporters. Future MDC rallies have also been banned making sure MR Tsvangirai does not campaign. All international communities are looking on with grave concern and no matter what excuses Mugabe tries to make for his dastardly actions, he is done for. He has put the last nail on his own coffin.

kjrs

If all else fails he has his followers on here to help him put the word out that this was another western, new labour, neo colonialist, ex rhodie racist, bbc inspired conspiracy to unseat him despite the majority of zimbabweans(except those pesky western puppet uncle toms) crying for him to stay on till the day he expires serving them just as he has over the past decades and bringing the prosperity zimbabwe now enjoys to the length and breadth of the country for the sole benefit of his people!

Has anyone noticed how silent his usual band of lovers have gone over the past 24hrs now that this has been widely reported by virtually all media organisations worldwide. they cant accuse the whole world of being against zimbabwe and mugabe now can they??? Funny thing is it is again the very same evil whites rendering the aid work selflessly in this country while the mugabe cheerleaders are safely esconsed in some evil western nation yet calling evil down on those nations..talk about biting the hand that feeds you!!

Tunex, watch out pretty soon you are going to be a 'white Rhodesian' I am surprised it has taken one of them so long.

Glyph, Mindpower, Kjrs120 and some jokes around really hate my head of state. I stay in Zim 24/7 and these rape incidences and street violence are only in USA, Britain and their western movies. My good people if we attack the British head of state it becomes anathema but for the record the Centurian Queen of England heads the most barbaric , infamous, notorious, wicked and inhuman establishment ever existed on mother earth. That geriatric queen Liz has blood of Africans dripping from top of her head flooding river Thames like a tsunami. This infamous queen has been notorious in putting British Governors, colonial authorities, proxy politicians all over native land of the globe. For a century now there has been extraction of minerals from Africa to her establishment. Forget about Thatcher, Blair, Brown, their parliamentarians, etc, they are just bucking puppies, political infants and un-rational work horses who hustle as disposable batteries to feed the inhuman English Establishment. They even call a dreaded militant monarchy such as theirs a democracy. They call their royal bitching family members non political as if we can’t read all speeches on “colonies” by the geriatric queen. Can we not see the militancy of these shame royal progeny in Afghanistan? Can we not see how their King to be pleads with the UN chief to act against Zimbabwe? Who is politically boasting of “giving” Africans Zimbabwe if it is not this long nosed idiot Charles? When land was taken from the settlers of this English Establishment our head of state became racist to them for he challenged their kith and kin within their English establishment. Our nation is harassed everyday through their tabloids for not having the whites doing agriculture alone. Who is racist when you say if whites are out of Zim land there won’t be production? Does agriculture only favors the white skin? We went to agric schools with whites and some of them did not go to school at all, we have black agric engineers, veterinarians, agronomists, economists, extension workers from reputable institutions all over the world including from Europe but as long as there are no whites included then they blaspheme that our land tenure will be doomed. We are not supposed to reason that agriculture needs good rains and capital investment when they muzzle the balance of payment support from the Breton Woods and other credits from international finance institutions. It is now more than a century that we fight these maniacs from the Caucus Mountains and let us hurl them back to their barbarism by refusing to budge to their influence. GO ZIMBABWE GO!!

Onesoulzim, GO ZIMBABWE! For sure, but unfortunately not under the leadership of the likes of Mugabe. Of the three of us, I think Glyph as an Englishman or Mindpower, are better equipped to educate you about Britain. It seems to me that when you imagine Britain, the USA and other Western countries you imagine them to be just 'white' These countries are inhabited by people of ALL races ,creeds and nationalities. As you "stay 24/7 in Zimbabwe" you have no idea what the other part of the world is about. All you know about the west it seems is watching western movies, the propaganda you get from your Herald newspaper, and what Mugabe raves and rants about to cover up for all his madness. When you have billions of people in a country, you are bound to have rapes and violence. These crimes are committed by whites and blacks and to a lesser degree, other races. When you state the Queen of England has blood of Africans flooding the Thames River you are accusing her by association. It is like saying that the present African mosquito has blood of colonial Europeans flooding the Zambezi River. See how stupid that is? I don't know about the British governors, colonial authorities and proxy politicians you are talking about in these modern times. All I know is that countries send ambassadors to one another's country to facilitate trade and goodwill and to protect its citizen who may reside in these countries. You see you are dwelling in the past and repeating old history that we've heard so many times before.Boring! What you are not doing is looking to see what YOUR country is doing to its OWN people THIS PRESENT TIME. The amount of blood YOUR leader Mugabe has shed of his OWN people is enough to flood both the Zambezi and the Limpopo Rivers. You don't see because as one of his stooges your family members are safe from his wrath. I don't see what good all those agricultural degrees you talk about have produced because no sooner were the white farmers beaten and sent away food production ceased. Why? Did the Herald tell you it's because all that time there was no rain , or did it tell you all that time there was too much snow? This past season Zimbabwe has had lots of rain, and I promise you, if those farmers were there, Zimbabwe would have had a bumper harvest, not because they are white, but because they really know how to farm. What you should be doing is asking those few who are still there to teach you and work along side by side. Forget your racism. You will starve to death. Now Glygh and or Mindpower, take it away!

ROFL, all that mindless ranting about the queen was hilarious. You really don't know anything about how the UK government works do you! All the information you need is on the internet, how about educating yourself a bit better before you make a fool of yourself.

Your head of state is not a joke he is THE Joke in Africa. He’s 84 years old, senile and blind as a bat, he must weigh 350lbs and 150lbs of that is prostate. Comrade Sir Robert Mugabe is as far from the Marxist-Leninist he was when he came to power as it is possible to be he’s now giving his beloved proletariat a damn good shafting although with a prostate that big he’s letting Gideon Gono do it for him. If he was true to his Marxist-Leninist roots he would remember this quote by the Great Vladimir Ilyich Lenin,~” The surest way to overthrow an existing social order is to debauch the currency”.

I don’t think I’m going to lecture you on the role of Queen Elizabeth II in a parliamentary democracy because it wouldn’t actually achieve anything more than likely the institution of Royal Prerogative powers and Parliamentary Sovereignty would escape you. Read a book, I recommend the 14th edition of “Constitutional and Administrative Law” by Bradley and Ewing, although that’s going to cost you about ZWD$70 billion little coloured rags.

So Prince Harry went to Afghanistan? Soldiers go to war; I’ve been to Afghanistan too and numerous other places. It’s what soldiers do why should that surprise you? Prince William is currently on anti-drugs operations with the Royal Navy is that a bad thing or a good thing? When someone lends you money they attach certain conditions to the loan, and the west’s conditions are quite simple, rule of law, human rights, don’t run your economy like your presidents personal piggy bank, free and fair elections. Simple.

Your government has stopped NGO’s feeding and caring for the people, by August it is estimated that 4 million people will be malnourished, only 13% of your harvest is planted, by December it will be worse. The land produces one third of what it produced ten years ago and yet you tell us that you can, “do” agriculture. Still want us to leave you alone or once again do you just want to spout Mu’gabages trash about the west but don’t mind taking the aid and the food? No one will lend you money, not even China because you have a bunch of idiots running your economy into the ground and brutalising your population. You have no rule of law and no respect for human rights. Your government wouldn’t know a sound fiscal policy if it rose up and waved at them. The west isn’t going to invade you, so we’re exerting as much leverage as we can by hitting your lunatic geriatric president where it hurts, right in the bank account maybe he will pi$$ off to the retirement home Gucci Grace built for him in Thailand and the people of Zimbabwe can lead normal fruitful lives which they deserve. He sure as hell isn’t going to spend retirement in the dump he has created in Zimbabwe. Go McGarbage Go and go soon!

Sorry everyone that was a crap post but what did I have to respond to? CRAP!

No need to apologize Glyph, sometimes 'blind' people the likes of Mugabe's cheer leaders, need to be pulled out of their crap. So now Onesoulzim, I hope you will give us a break from donkeys years ago colonialism, Queen Elizabeth, her kids, her cats and her corgis. Bring something new to the table so that we might all share some of your 'wisdom.'

Kjrs 120, I should be educated about Britain and your country’s life style? Well, I have been to some of your cities during my study there and am impressed by the level of infrastructural development as compared to the African, Caribbean, Latin American and east European countries I also visited and stayed for some short while. I have started visiting Asia on business trips in recent years and I am fascinated by the growth rate and its hard working people. I visit Britain regularly for business and every time I am in the UK somebody was trying to educate me about how Mugabe regime must go yet I have first hand experience of it. Pal, I also got shocked when my colleagues in NY and other big cities in Europe profess their ignorance about Zim, some say its part of South Africa. It is unfortunate that you are conditioned to think that rape and violence is a phenomenon prompted by crowded cities, you must study sociology deeper and have examples of life from the Indian culture, Asia and the Arab world – violence is dictated by the way human interaction is propagated. I will not ask you to study the African culture for it is clear how you folks perceive the continent, just dark like its skin color! USA is the worst culprit when it comes to lack of moral fibre. The radical Moslems wish you perish for they consider Britain and America a satanic world of infidels, I am horrified when they glorify any member of their society who gives out own life killing infidels (British and Americans) from hell kingdom. Your gun trotting men and women also expose their horrid sexual acts with other man/women in the very streets full of children. Gun killing in schools from kindergarten is unheard of in the Arab world because of high civilized societies that respect human cleanliness and gender sensitivity. You really want to call your world civilization much to the annoyance of the rest of the world. It seems you see people of all skin colors in the US streets buying from the “same” shops and you believe that they all fit in one class of society. Your world, from my observations is classified into races with skewed opportunities. Why are blacks and Latinos so poor in that world of plenty? Visit your jails and private hospitals and record racial proportions. When I am outside my country I dedicate myself to learning about other peoples of the world, and I am appalled by institutional racial segregation in the USA. You have condemned Jews as Christ killers and you blame their Arab cousins for adhering to Allah’s teachings. You want to talk about Obama as shining example while ignoring the horrendous black history in America. Obama tale is story of emancipation of the black people; one can not applaud whites for allowing blacks to have an honest candidate as if whites ever had a natural dispensation to lead America. The American white establishment has been busy inculcating house niggas much to the disapproval of American black communities. With all due respect Kjrs 120 seem to be unaware of the direct killings of Africans as sanctioned by the geriatric queen of England, it is again unfortunate that my correspond doesn’t know the political influence exerted by the English prostituous royal family to the people of Zimbabwe. Agricultural farming is centered on its economics and Kjrs still thinks that the whites who once farmed in Zimbabwe are better that the blacks because of the latter’s poor harvests after land re-allocation. I wish to be forgiven by articulating that this is, by error, racially attributed to skin differences, Kjrs is also silent or ignorant about the agricultural economics fundamentals i.e. capital injections that was given to former white farmers by the international finance institutions through a more accepted Mugabe govt then. If one is to assess the balance sheet on former farming activities by the “whites” it is easy to notice that these farmers were over borrowing from banks to buy planes and enjoy exotic holidays, all this overstrained the national debt. Personally I bought a farm in ’98 to borrow money for my IT business for title deeds for farms then was like a gold mine. High production of food crops was harvested from native communal lands. The Mugabe gvt that now excludes white domination on land tenure has had its balance of payment cut and no loan/credit/grant has been advanced from traditional international finance institutions as pressured by Britain and USA through diabolic bills. Today both remaining white and black new farmers are finding farming more exigent for the banks can not advance loans as was before. Former exploiters of land did not massively invest in farming infrastructures like dams, reservoirs, canals, fertilizer and agrochemical industries, seed processors, farming metallurgy production, end-product refineries and product marketing. The despised Mugabe gvt of today has to out-source all farming requirements from hostile traditional nations such as USA MF tractors etc. Kjrs120, of the 400 000 white farmers with 80% of arable land in a country of 13 million people only a handful had done agriculture at diploma level, Zimbabwe has invested in the human capital now and only what it needs are fair credit advancements from apolitical international finance institutions to kick start massive agricultural revolution. The devil has this info in a bottle and can not let it happen for this will spread like summer veld fires all over Africa and beyond pitting the once powerful English establishment. I am a Mugabe person for he is my elected Head of State, all his leadership affect my life directly and the future of Zimbabwean generations to come, I therefore must be analytical of those who attack policies that liberate my people. I focus a future without Mugabe and do not need him now to head our cabinet due to more internal issues like his complacency to corruption by his party sorrounders. I am therefore an opposition man to the government but I am skeptical to protagonists of the Zimbabwe I want to see after Mugabe. I need Tsvangirai to unlock our political credit worthiness as he has become a darling of the west. I want a GNU for the next five years.

Oh no, he's cutting and pasting his long speeches again :-S

This is FUN.!! Can I join in..

It always strikes me as absurd when a Zanoid is contradicted. They quote every incident in Europe and the Americas back to the 1800's. They never stay "On Subject" and they certainly don't stray off the party line.

Hi Zanoids...you know who you are...your the people who are enjoying the comfortable and safe accommodation in the western world without being exposed to the indignities and poverty your fellow Countrymen/Women (Sop to the Pc brigade)are.

If Zimbabwe is such a beautiful place...go back there. !!

It's called "The Blame Game" and these guys are very, very experienced at playing it.

Haha even Phiri agrees.. a quote from Phiri... "Zimbabwean leaders are good at blaming everybody, but themselves. Mugabe blasts President Mwanawasa and Tsvangirai, at every opportunity blasts President Mbeki, as if he is the sole source of the problems in Zimbabwe."

Onesoulzim, Your statement, "I should be educated about Britain," is correct. Of course you should. That is exactly what we have been telling you all along before you make a fool of yourself writing rubbish. It is a fact that many people do not know what or where Zimbabwe is and couldn't care less. That is why I wonder why you lot are SO annal about people wanting your country. As you have been so "impressed" by the level of infrastructural development and I might add FREEDOM, why then do you think anyone would leave that for Zimbabwe where one has to use leaves to wipe one's backside. Is it not the reason why you bloody hypocrites are roaming around the western and Asian countries? In no way did I say "violence and rape is a phenomenon prompted by crowded cities." For one thing violence a 'phenomenon'? I deal with the results of rape and violence of all descriptions on a daily basis and there is NOTHING YOU can educate me on that matter. Violence is found everywhere - in large cities and villages alike. It is perpetrated by men women and children. Rapes of children by their fathers and other male family members is rife. Atrocities by heads of government common, and I don't have to go very far for you as you have Robert Mugabe right in your front yard. The extreme radical Moslems call us infidels because they are such hypocrites with a violent mentality. Like Mugabe if people do not agree with their rotten thinking then they must be done away with. After all the ranting and raving against the West, Saddam's son Uday, was found with heaps and heaps of playboy and other pornographic magazines and paraphernalia. When a young Iraqi girl got married, it was Uday's 'privilege' to rape her before she consummated her wedding night with her husband. What about brothels? Where do you think these Arabs get their 'fix' from? You say "Your gun trotting men and women also expose their horrid sexual acts with other men/women in the very streets full of children" How ignorant you are. If as you said or lied, you have visited America and Britain, how many people did you see copulating in the streets? Look at your own Zimbabwe. Why do you think your life expectancy is 34 years of age? Because of HIV and AIDS. Why? Because Zimbabweans are having sex left right and center completely out of sexual control, unfortunately children are being born HIV infected because their mothers and fathers hop from one person to another totally oblivious. In fact most Zimbabweans just co-habitat and don't even pay 'lobola' or whatever you call it in other dialects. SO don't have that holier than thou attitude towards other countries. You obviously have NO clue about life in America. You talk of blacks and Latinos being so poor. What do you know? Are they? There are the rich and poor in every class of society and I know for a fact there are a great many wealthy Blacks and Latinos, the likes you dream about. There are also many homeless people black and white alike as a result of drugs alcoholism and mental problems. Their families kick them out and that makes the states and those organizations who try to help them difficult because no sooner are they discharged from the hospitals they have no where to go but back under the freeways as they have no family support. Now getting to farmers in Zimbabwe. YOU stated that the black farmers had agricultural schooling, so don't put words in my mouth. I sated that white farmers KNEW HOW TO FARM. It seems you want to have your cake and eat it or should I say spoon-feeding. It is not for the farmers to invest in lakes and dams. It is the responsibility of your stupid government to do that. Instead of providing all that Mugabe squandered all the money on himself disGrace, and his other valued thieves. NO financial institute will give Mugabe a dime and if you are looking for a hand-out, forget it. Mugabe is corruption personified, a ruthless killer. You are out there in the West because you are running away from a pile of dirt that si now Zimbabwe. Hey, I thought you said you were in Zimbabwe "24/7" Liar.

If I might add to my post Onesoulzim, Do YOU call it 'African culture' when grown African men rape innocent baby girls because they believe it is a cure for Aids? That is barbaric. So don't talk to me about 'African Culture' because it no longer exists. Instead, tell Mugabe to remove his finger from his nose and provide the people with medicines and all the impressive things you said you saw in your 'travels'

Our culture has been diluted by your colonisation and opression my dear!

Gun ,"trotting" men and women having sex in the streets? Are you sure you arent confusing reality with Grand Theft Auto?