Business Day (Johannesburg)
19 June 2008
THE Pretoria High Court ruled yesterday that South Africans of Chinese descent should be defined as black for the purposes of the employment equity and broad-based black economic empowerment legislation.
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In the United States they classifed Mexicans as White. Too bad the Exiles during Aparthed didn't ask the Russians to Invade before the 1990's of course South Africa would had been Zimbabwe of Today if that ever happened.
South Africa,ou this is what happens when you give your country away,you go to china and walk down the streets they laugh at you because you are black. Never in a life time have I seen anything as stupid as you black people in South Africa. Now do you understand what Mugabe is doing and saying. I am not saying that I don't love you. But how can you let this happen?
Spink10 I agree with u totally. Where were these chineese citizens during the struggle? There is no way they faced the same level of oppression as the native blacks and the only reason they now want to be classed as blacks is for the money. The gov. is failing the native blacks. Now I can imagine that the Chineese and the Indians are gonna be the ones to benefit most from these social iniatives.
The government need to rephrased it from "black" to natives. Thus eliminate the hangers-on. I hope and pray that Zuma does a better job at defending the still volnerable black natives. After all it's because of this demographic why he is where he is.
in america chinese people are chinese people they are not classified under black or white maybe yellow
How come most of you people can't spell? and so what if the Chinese are classified as Black? Black is a COLOR not a person~ There are some people who classify Italians as "Black" Caucasians. Grow up and deal with it!
If ur house got robbed by chineese or indians would tell the police that they were black. U people r full of shit. Black is black, chineese is chineese and indian is indian. I swear it's like i'm talking to morons.
The more you divide people according to superficial differences, the longer you perpetuate the consciousness of this artificiality. India went along caste and linguistic differences and 60 years after independence, we are facing more issues of discrimination than before. People are now clamouring to be classified as backward and disadvantaged. And two-bit politicians are finding more and more minor differences of caste, tribe, sub-caste, sub-tribe to gain some visibility for themselves.
Continue what is being done and South Africa faces the same fate. Set a time for all these quota systems to be dismantled and ensure that the REALLY disadvantaged get the foundation they need to make it. After that foundation, they should be on their own.
In the age of HTTP://WWW, one can buy anything from all corners of the word, download music etc with a click of the mouse. This is called globalisation. Now we can also import Humans BUT why import other nations problems to the detriment of your own people? Take the mass Indian population in East and Southern Africa because of lax immigration laws. Why allow a racist HINDU whose religion demeans the untouchables because they are black into Africa, a black continent, for them to exploit us. As if that is not enough, Uganda president has imported 20000+ Chinese and given them land (native African land) in which to settle. The President gives away gov. land to Hindu Madvani to grow Sugar cane - which does not feed hunger. The African robbed of his land will now be forced to work for peanuts to feed himself with nothing to leave for inheritence for his children. (Need I say a future Zimbabwe in the making?). Why not educate your nationals to farm better instead of importing future problems.By the way there are indeginous BLACKS in Asia (Cambodia, Viet Nam, Phillippine, Sothern India etc ) who are segregated, unacknowledged and discriminated against. Why allow these non africans people in your borders?
Congratulations, South Africa, on your New Apartheid. It will be as destructive of the human spirit as the Old Apartheid.
-- From a Californian who has visited you.
The intent of the original legislation,however laudable--appears to be open to abuse/exploitation by those not in need.Perhaps there should be a 'means' test to ensure that resources do target the real disadvantaged-.Rest assured--there will be many uninvited guests--like the proverbial'pigs at the feeding trough'--without such criterea. D.C.Cooper.
This is an absolute no brainer! Chinese classied as "black" in SA ? Nah some body's drinks must have been spiked here!. Chinese will never see them selves as black they will attack you in the street especially in UK, USAor China if you call them black, they are any thing but black some one is trying to pull a wool over the faces of real black South Africans here.
I think S.African are very naive to go down this route, I equivocally agree with the comments of Spink 10 and CJ Bailey 75.
I am a Nigerian living in the UK for over two decades and I have heard and seen the recent predujice and discrimination of indegenous black south africans against the fellow a africans from other african nations which is regretable but but now the chinese get a honourary titles as been "Black" what the hell is going on in SA? Now If a black sth African is born and raised in China would they be classified or accepted as Chinese? The Answer = HELL NO.
My Sth African brothers and sisters please wake up and smell the coffee!
While I am all for promotion of Racial Harmony, Unity and Integration as of a diverse rainbow nation, please do yourselves a favour don't be taken for a ride okay? this is an economic lobbyist agenda!!!!!!!.
Hold on, I've got to get this off my chest too, Dont turn your backs on your TRUE black brothers and sisters who helped you with the REAL liberation struggles from the shackles of apartheid but continue to show love to all and the Chineses too but TRUST ME me Chineses are NOT BLACK and will NEVER see themselves as black PERIOD!!!!!.
"Black" to most Asians means "Inferior" imagine a Chinese turning up at his own parents door step saying Hi dad & mum "I am black", now meet my black girlfriend or black wife to be.......... or vice versa you will see the shock horror expression on their faces. Trust me I have lived amongst them for years in the UK for decades they are all bout their businesses "DAT PAPER" The your $DOLLARS, £POUNDS STERLING & Euro and they are gone boooyah!!!!!.
I dont know whether you are my brother or sister but you have said it.If by living in UK you can understand the core and pretence of Chinese people what more of some one living with native Chinese in chinese villages.Never a day, even as the Act has been mended to include chinese dont dare call the Chinese black.Find out in a chinese dictionary the meaning of black or African--- good for nothing 'feizhou ren" a man from a devastated and destroyed continent.You can guess why we refuse our identity in china.I tell the chinese I have a child with a Chinese woman and they ask what color is your baby?You may not know what this question is investigating.The Chinese in the same way are accepting in South Africa what they are refusing in China. Anyway,thank you chinese people, what eslse does a "feizhou ren" deserves
Black south africans can freely go out and kill other black people from other African countries but can now compete with new black people called Chinese or Indians. I think a new liberation struggle is needed now. It is a shame and an insult!
The sad thing is that I grew up in South Africa and so did three generations b4 me and Indians will never be on the same level as black people .WTF these people are what 2% of the indian population! Life is not fair and we all have to make our place were we want to .My main reason why I now moved OVERSEAS.
This is an insult to the integrity of the black people on SouthAfrica. This court ruling has opened a can of worms whereby every small group from all corners of the world will claim they were also marginalised during appartheid and demand to be classified as blacks. Chinese are not balck. They are oopoturnists. They were never involved in the struggle of this country. Our government has to do something about this or otherwise they are brewing hate amonst its citizens and more xenophibic attaches should be expected if matters like these are let through.
This is a time bomb.
Okay what does South Africa classifed a Native North American as white