Author: jadams9
Thu Jun 26 01:23:52 2008

Most expected this to happen. Obama the new Front in the neocolonial scheme of Africa. Mind your own business Mr Hussien Muhammed Obama. You were expected to be a person of reason. It turns out to be the same sell out as that of your uncle Odinga in Kenya. Both Obama and Odinga will do whatever job to get power. Joined a club of status qou! We will not allow Africa to be subjugated by a wolf ib sheep clothing--Obama.

Author: iwekani.mukoma
Thu Jun 26 04:25:58 2008

In which world do you live in???Please leave Africa out of your rhetoric!

Author: kharisma
Thu Jun 26 15:00:41 2008

You'r di

Author: awt_independent
Thu Jun 26 12:26:10 2008

haha Obama is a while neo-colonial puppet racist.

Author: jamhal73
Thu Jun 26 13:31:45 2008

I think you are either one of those against Obama in the US or Mugabe's toilet paper. Your post does not make sense at all except that its shows your level of degrading. You need to wake to the new world. Mugabe has ruled Zimbabwe for years, rendered many homeless and killed thousands yet you can't see what Obama is seeing. Thats why white people always look at us black as savages because people like you. Like I said, since you are Mugabe's toilet paper, after wiping his ..., you can ask him to flush you instead of throwing you in the street.

Author: Get over mugabe
Thu Jun 26 20:47:41 2008

You are telling Obama to mind his own buisiness, yet Mugabe is making quite a joke of himself. His disguisting regime of 30 years has made Zimbabwe the world's buisness. Obviously Mugabe isn't a capable president, quite pathetic I might add.

Author: turnex
Sat Jun 28 04:07:06 2008

jadams..you wrote and I quote: Both Obama and Odinga will do whatever job to get power....surely you meant Mugabe will do whatever job to get power...even if it means allowing himself to be held hostage by his army generals and allowing the killing of his own people so as him and his generals can stuff more dollar bills in their pants!

Author: yes we can
Thu Jun 26 02:52:20 2008

Mugabe is pretty much declaring Zimbabwe his regime.It "is illegitimate and lacks credibility" like obama said.

I suggest the writer of the previous article enlighten him/herself more about the Presumptive nominee, Obama.

Author: Lloyd Whitefield Butler Jr.
Thu Jun 26 05:39:35 2008

Is Democratic Presidential Candidate Barack Hussein Obama interfering with an election run-off in a foreign government, Zimbabwe? Did Barack Hussein Obama give American backed Raila Omolo Odinga a phone call when at the height of his election campaign in early January 2008 and later; world headlines read:

“Odinga supporters turn violent against Kibaki’s re-election”

“UNITED NATIONS officials warned today that the humanitarian situation in Kenya, where post-election violence has uprooted hundreds of thousands of people, is getting worse with water, sanitation and shelter among the most pressing needs.”

“The UN estimates that some 250,000 Kenyans have been displaced and 350 reportedly killed by the violence, which erupted after President Mwai Kibaki was declared the winner in the recent election.”

“Kenya's opposition Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) claims that last month's election was rigged in favour of President Mwai Kibaki.”

“Protests have led to some 600 deaths nationwide and 250,000 people have fled their homes.”

“NAIROBI, Kenya (CNN) -- One of the most stable nations in East Africa descended further into chaos Monday after a disputed election triggered violence that has killed at least 124 people.”

“Following a post-electoral crisis that resulted in the deaths of 1,500 people and the displacement of 600,000 more, Odinga took office as Prime Minister, at the head of a national unity government, in April 2008.”

Presidential Candidate Barak Hussein Obama never made a phone call to Raila Omolo Odinga to stop the death and violence. Why?

In Zimbabwe official results are less than 100. And 600,000 post election homeless did not happen in Zimbabwe during and after the March 29, 2008 elections it happened in Kenya.

And, why is it the opposition candidate Morgan Tsvangirai never ever required to provide facts and proof under oath concerning his claim of deaths and abuse?

Why is Morgan Tsvangirai continuing to run and hide in foreign government establishments. Who is he afraid of?

The same people he is running from today he will face whether he wins or loose. Can you compare him to a Patrick Henry of the American Revolution who said "Give me liberty or give me death?" No!

Morgan Tsvangirai appears to claim: Give me Britain or give me America.

Author: turnex
Fri Jun 27 04:46:03 2008

I started replying to the empty self serving post by this butler adn lost the will to live......

Author: Glyph
Mon Jun 30 13:05:06 2008

I find it amusing that Lloyd compares Patrick Henry(a hero of the US revolution) to Morgan Tsvangirai.

I wonder if John Patrick Henry would have even survived if he and his wife hadn't had slaves to sell following the fire at their house?

Author: tatechisa
Thu Jun 26 07:27:43 2008

Jadams and Butler need to get a life. Why should Morgan provide more evidence when the BBC, CNN, SABC, and numerous other networks have video footage of people in ZANU regalia hunting and beating up people. If either of you had ever lived in Harare you would have noticed that the footage of the beatings occured outside that National ZANU headquaters in downtown Harare and the ZANU headquarters in Mbare.

Just because the violence in Somalia, Darfur, and Kenya was on a larger scale does not mean that Mugabe should not be condemned for his actions. In fact condemnation is necessary before the situation becomes like Darfur, or Somalia.

I am a Zimbabwean and I am not a member of either ZANU PF or MDC and I have been a victim of ZANU intimidation tactics myself which is why I emigrated to South Africa. Here Zimbabweans are targets of xenophobic attacks but at lleast here it is not a crime to fight back, it is not a crime to want work to feed your children, its not a crime to disagree with President Mbeki, its not a crime to not be a card carrying member of the ANC.

Butler, to argue that Morgan should not seek refuge from Bob is like arguing that a abused child or woman cannot seek refuge from their tormentor. ZANU PF has guns MDC does not. Do not comment on what you read in the paper or internet, comment on what you know. Mugabe is a monster that I hope will burn in hell.

Author: rafil
Thu Jun 26 10:39:29 2008

That morgan tsvangirai will be a puppet of the west is no longer contestable,he it,s already proven. That is what he,ll be if given power.As for robert mugabe,his party should hencefort seek ways of identifying new leaders that should contest elections in the future,he,s been there long enough and should relinquinsh control but not to morgan tsvangirai the western puppet,we don,t want such people in African politics at the moment,they,ve done enough harm to the African cause already.

Author: awt_independent
Thu Jun 26 12:27:21 2008

How has it been proven? You make up such lies. Wheres the evidence?!

Author: wmusariri
Thu Nov 13 12:41:50 2008

people around the world do not have the slightest idea how hard life has become under Mugabe.Tsvangirai is the only man who has stood squarely against the tyrant so whoever calls him a sell out or a puppet of the west needs to come and live one day in Zimbabwe then we can start talking.

Author: rafil
Thu Jun 26 16:33:49 2008

I,m not a forecaster, with the way western support tends to lean towards morgan tsvangirai and all we see on cnn, bbc etc is an evil govt ruling zimbabwe, even being compared to adolf hitler, calls for serious thinking.All these started since the govt demanded full control of the land and the country.why have they been giving mugabe all the degrees they can come up with for as long as he kept quite, but now that he,s talking and acting they,re taking back their degrees and honours as if we Africans care, we don,t care about your honours because they are tainted and useless to us,and for your infomation, even if I ,m made king of uk as an African i,ll always be discriminated against.I repeat, tsvangirai cannot be trusted not to sell out given the way all of mugabe,s enemies are trying to promote him to sainthood.He must learn from the likes of mobutu, bokassa and their ilk,enemies of Africa that will never be forgiven.

Author: mindpower
Thu Jun 26 19:44:43 2008

That's your "proof"!?? The west supports Tsvangirai so you accuse him of being guilty by association? The west supports Mandela too, is he also a "puppet"??

You talk of Tsvangirai as a sell-out yet so many of Zim's resources has been sold of by Mugabe et all to the Chinese. Wake up man, you are being distracted from reality by ZANU-PF propaganda!

Author: kjrs120
Thu Jun 26 22:13:26 2008

Here comes Rafil, another brainwashed confused individual with a chip on his shoulders. If other countries do not accept you , why would you expose yourself to such an indignity? You have your own accepting motherland but the problem is you destroy what you have and then whimper for someone else's land. Shameful. Take care of Zimbabwe and it will take care of you.

Author: kjrs120
Thu Jun 26 22:34:00 2008

Mr four names, you are repeating old news about Kenya and wasting precious space. You lot like what is going on in Kenya and in Zimbabwe. You support these devilish barbarians. What do you care?

Author: turnex
Fri Jun 27 04:48:08 2008

mubage himself said he much admired Hitler and wanted to be WORSE than hitler..so your claim that this is all a western inspired slander on your great bobojan mugabe is nothing but bilge!

Author: kjrs120
Fri Jun 27 07:01:22 2008

Turnex, ever heard of a bobojan spanela?

Author: turnex
Sat Jun 28 04:04:26 2008

kjrs..somebody ought to hit these bozos on the head with one...!!! ha ha.

Author: rafil
Fri Jun 27 09:25:39 2008

All of you that tend to struggle to give the impression that being a boy or puppet to the west will save your blushes,I advice you to go to our(African) history books and you won,t be far from reality.For those who think that because mandela was suported by the west that automatically exonerates him,that,s a lie.Tsvangirai has every right to ruling his country because he,s zimbabwean,but achieving that with the kind of open support from the very country that history told us put zimbabweans through so much discrimination and disrespect right in their own backyard calls for reflection.I repeat and with full conviction that Morgan tsvangirai if made president of zimbabwe will likely pander to the whims and turn of his masters.They(British) will only support a candidate that will do most of what they say,Mugabe did initially, but when he refused to continue on that part they,re trying to make him a devil in the world,s eye, when he and and his govt allowed the minority white farmers to continue to keep 70 to 80%of the best land they made him look the best in Africa, but when the rules changed and the lands where taken back the british mobilised all their friends and even with a call from the very same tsvangirai that sanctions be placed on zimbabwe and the ensuing battle we have right now between those that,ll sell Africa for their greedy and political aims and those who still think that Africa and all therein should be owned and controlled by us. They (british) don,t care if an african rules his country forever as long as that person conforms to their every wish.The contributors that accused me of being brainwashed should be ashamed of themselves because I don,t see the world like they do, but instead through a pan Africanist eye.I repeat Mugabe should step aside as soon as possible for the future generations to take over,and that i,m still a little sceptical about tsvangirai and all he represents.all you sell outs and puppets of the west, Africa has no place for you in the future, believe it or not.

Author: jrr562004
Fri Jun 27 15:37:18 2008

Another Racist Pan Africanist. The West is anti Mugabe, not because he took the land from the White Farmers, rather the way he did it, and the real reason why he did it.Go away with all this nonsense and anti White drivel and get off your rotten lazy arse to find a solution to Africa's Problem. Zimbabwe is just the beginning of all the countries that need to be fixed.

Author: rafil
Fri Jun 27 09:46:56 2008

I,m not confused, but instead an agitated African that will do all in his power to free up the blocked mentalities of some people that don,t seem to understand how this all came about.Maybe you are the descendants of thieves that came to Africa from Europe because of all they could steal,lands, cattle,etc.Beware,you won,t have it so free this time around.

Author: rafil
Sun Jun 29 10:49:17 2008

Greenbomber, nice to know there are still Africans around who with whom together we,re going to liberate Africa from green snakes who come initially like friends and before you know it show their real colour.I,m without doubt we are im multitudes in this continent even though we also know there are a lot of Africans doing all they can to reverse the gains of our true heroes(Nkrumah,Lumumba, Toure)etc.The ancestors will guide us if we don,t forget their sacrifices.The west should think of how to bring war criminals like Bush, Blair, Howard and their ilk who illegitimately invaded iraq and as a result more than 200 thousand innocents have been killed,20 thousand also in Afganistan,and closer to home the indirect sponsor of a conflict in the DR Congo, that has killed some millions of people.Mugabe is not the world,s problem,the world knows it,s problem and should start looking for solutions to it.Their madia propaganda against zimbabwe and extensively Africa will not work this time around,because you can be fooled once , but not all the time.Long live Africa.

Author: juhlman
Sat Jun 28 04:51:48 2008

Can we get back to the FACTS of 80% unemployment, 1,000,000% inflation and 30% of the population of Zimbabwe living outside it's borders?

ZANU-PF/Mugabe has "achieved", in the words of Nelson Mandela, "A tragic failure of leadership"! Does anyone want to argue the wisdom of Nelson Mandela? Phiri? Kuba? Anyone? Does anyone doubt that Mr. Mandela would have been happy/ectstatic to inherit South Africa in the state that Mr. Mugabe found Zimbabwe in 19080?

A country once the breadbasket of Africa, a net-exporter relegated to a net-importer of foodstuffs, a country where a secrecy of the ballot-box no longer applies, a country where freedom of conscience no longer applies. What can ZANU-PF/Mugabe fear from a free election when they have so nobly served the people of Zimbabwe under their stewardship?

ZANU-PF/Mugabe has only delivered independence from white-rule, nothing else! It is one thing to lead a laberation, it is quite another to govern for the benefit of all liberated persons. ZANU-PF/Mugabe has failed in that and, to them, the PEOPLE of Zimbabwe, have had the temerity to renounce them!

Sadly, we are far from the end-game. Mugabe cannot rule Zimbabwe now with the MDC in control of parliament. His only option is too disband parliament, for which the people of Zimbabwe, and the world, will call him to account.

The game is being played into "injury-time", but even if Mugabe prevails in the travesty that is the "run-off" he will be unable to govern, and the MDC dominated parliament will continually "nip at the heels" of the ZANU-PF/Mugabe establishment until they are rendered feeble.

A change is going to come, just not within the timeframe we all hoped an prayed it would come within! The FACTS do not support the continuation of the current regime!

Author: kjrs120
Sat Jun 28 07:11:24 2008

Juhlman, your music is good but we are getting tired of hearing it.

Author: rafil
Sat Jun 28 07:15:16 2008

I don,t know who you are but one thing is for sure, if you are white fighting your ass of to stay and try to rob Africans of their heritage,then you are the rascist,but if you,re black and blind with stated your facts then you need redemption.The west is against mugabe ,not because he had the temerity to send troops in conjunction with angola and namibia to free d,r, congo from an impending takeover by uganda and rwanda supported by the wast for their own selfish interest and the west is not against mugabe because he took the land ,but ,the way he took it and the reason he took it, is there a special way to take back your property?.Can you, who know the facts state here clearly why the west is against mugabe and want regime change in zimbabwe? because we know that in gabon there in Bongo who has been in power for 40 yrs,in cameroun, biya ,in egypt mubarak and countless other instances.Tell us why the west is against Mugabe if not for the land and personal hatred.

Author: the west
Sat Jun 28 13:08:00 2008

The West is against mugabe because he is a murdering scum that drains money from Zimbabwe that his people rightfully own. He will hang sooner or later and so will his pack of cowards around him. I cant wait till they send in real soldiers from outside Zimbabwe to chase down the cowardice scum and show them how real men fight. The time will come very soon when the people will get to hunt down every person that has done mugabe's dirty work, the victims never forget the names and faces of these people.

Morgan is the true President of Zimbabwe because the runoff was illegal according to the election laws, it HAS to be run with in 21 days of the election no matter what!!!!!

Author: greenbomber.
Sat Jun 28 19:14:05 2008

RAFIL, you couldnt have said it much better. While we do want change in Zimbabwe,let those who claim to be keepers of democract like the west dictate to us whats best for Africa because they are the same colonised and partitioned our continent and made us mere chattels in our own land. For those who didnt know, when you talk of being African, you are talking of one`s birthright and that is our land. when the likes of Mugabe who you hate went to war they went to war to reclaim what was unjustly taken away from our forefathers and in good faith they dealt with their colonial masters who dealt in bad faith and thought they coulds get away with it. NEVER ever,zimbabwe shall not dance to the tune of the west because they have money and all.we would not sell our birthright for a dime.respect our sovereignity respects us and for those who think that we never benefited anything from bob, lest you be educated on the benefits that Zimbabwe has made achieved under the same regime that you claim to have plundered the nation.The highest number of dams in africa and probably the world, the largest auction floors in the world,the best education system in Southern Africa and third best in Africa according to United Nations.All this was achieved under Mugabe and whether you like it or not he deserves a pat on the back for that. Yes we want change but anything that smells of the west and their controlling ways, shall not be forced on us and we stand ready to reject.For those who think that we shall just seat by and watch the bullies of the world attack ours sovereignity,lest you be warned that we are ready for you. the same way that we fought for our nation during the colonial era. For now Morgan must come down to mother earth and stop behaving like a prostitute who takes all.he is one of us and he should act like us and stop being arrogant because the answer only lies with us Zimbabweans and in africa not in holland, America and Britain.

like i said, for those who have been trying to anoint themselves as Zimbabwe`s moral compass you can go hang now.Shout all you want like my president Bob said but you cannot get the ghetto out of me.Born in the ghetto-OLIVER MTUKUDZI. adios mates, zimbabwe is not a colony or an extension or a harlot of the west.

Author: the west
Sun Jun 29 00:00:04 2008

Green i have some more Largest to add to you pitiful list that is a joke when you compare it to other countries.

Zimbabwe Facts compared to other African countries and the world, it makes Iraq look like paradise at the moment- Highest Unemployment 80%+ Highest Aids/HIV level per population over 25%{yes one in 4 people have Aids/HIV} Highest rate of deaths from Aids per population Highest Inflation Figure 1500000%+ and growing Highest infant mortality rate Highest emigration rate Highest rate of population under the poverty line 70%+

Just some of the High points for Zimbabwe and they go one but you get the drift.

The world would rather take over a bankrupt Ice Making company at the North Pole than Zimbabwe. The world only wants to stop the suffering of Zimbabwe people they don't want the country. This is why all of our countries send so much Food and medical Aid to feed the people as mugabe and his regime drive brand new luxury cars and drain all Zimbabwe's money into hidden bank accounts while living in the lap of luxury! In most countries the politicians serve the people in Zimbabwe its the other way round under mugabe.




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