Liberia Government (Monrovia)
2 July 2008
President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf has called on the African Union to pronounce the June 27th elections in Zimbabwe as not credible and declare the results unacceptable, if the Union is to maintain its credibility.
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So the government of a country=the populace of that country?
Maybe the reason why some countries are urging a rejection of the run-off is because they would dislike a neighboring incentive to return to their own violence-marred pasts.
Plus, no matter that they were ruled by chronic authoritarian kleptocrats or the more liberal minority of governors, they were getting hand-outs from the EU member states and the U.S. before this crisis occurred, so why would an outcry from countries like Kenya, Botswana, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Zambia engender a spike in those hand-outs?
I could see conditions on foreign aid being placed by the EU and U.S. depending on how the African countries relate to illiberal governments of states such as Zimbabwe, Gabon, Equatorial Guinea, Togo, Guinea, Libya, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, etc., or even a withdrawal of foreign aid from countries which may do business with such countries. That would be reasonable to do, since dealing with authoritarian governments on a transnational basis always has some high degree of economic and social risk.
Plus, I don't think that the UK has actually implemented sanctions yet, since that would mean that British businesses would not be able to do business in Zimbabwe, which they do (look at Avient Aviation, which flew those Chinese weapons to Zimbabwe from Pointe-Noire in the Congo Republic).
I think President Sirleaf is right on this and the previously writer does not know what he/she is talking about. Despite milatary rule in the early 80s in Liberia, we were a very peaceful country. However, when African leaders remain silent in the face of gross election and human rights violation, the result is what happened in Liberia. Greater than 200,000 killed and scores of others displaced (Liberia's population in 1985 was 2.5Million). We in Africa should stop blaming the west for the ills brought on our people by rulers like Mugabe, Taylor, Doe, etc. I think it takes courage for people like President Johnson Sirleaf to speak out because she has experienced the wrath of leaders like Mugabe. We need to come to the realization in Africa that leadership of a nation is not a birth right or a position willed to us by our grand parents. It is a privellege to serve one country and not a birth right. I think when leaders work for an honest living before entering government or when they leave government, then and only then will they realize the devastating effect of their missguided policies. The West has got nothing to do with the looting of our treasury and the abuse of our people by likes of Mugabe, Taylor, Doe, etc.
I don't believe anyone is blaming the west for Africa's ills. But if any does they have a strong reason for doing so. Take for example Zimbabwe, These white settler came to this country and forcibly take the land of these africans and have them lead a very difficult life. If the president decides to right the wrong that were done to these people, is that not justics? But most african leaders like sirleaf are agents of the west. They will always do what the west ask of them. SHAME ON THEM ALL. LONG LIVE COMRAD MOGABE.
I am replying to a comment about how white settlers have ruined life for Africans. Africans should clearly realize that the truth of the matter is that there was ZERO development in sub-Saharan Africa before the white man came here. Secondly, when one witnesses how African people treat their own kind one is tempted to think that life was actually better under white rule! Isn't it ironic that the Nigerian government has welcomed white Zimbabwean farmers into Nigeria to farm the land. No prizes for guessing why! And NO, I don't support apartheid at all, but we all need to face the truth. If you think Mugabe is a wonderful human being then the Matabeles, who were massacred after Mugabe came to power, would surely not agree. I hope oneday that Mugabe stands trial for his evil doings! And don't blame the west for that either!
I strongly desagree with the idea that Mugabe did not win the election.and there is a reason for him to dislike the white.Sarlif is blaming Mugabe because is in the good box with America.Mugabe idea of taking the farm back was a good one, since it gives power to the black.Today the crisis in Zimbabwe does not mean Mugabe is unable to lead, but it is due to the presure of the outside.They want all the people to see that mugabe is the one behind the crisis while they are the one trying to detroy the economy.Mugabe is the only president in Africa dealing with imperialism.We love Mugabe with his ideology which non of the president in Africa can try to compete with.The African president are quiet about the election because they know Mugabe is right. Prsident Mugabe we congratulate you.
I am still waiting for the power Mugabe gave to the BLACKS after taking the land from the WHITES. We are so shortsighted that we can kill our own people for our own selfish interest and go ahead blaming others. If Mugabe was truly that Nationalistic, why did he give more than 70 percent of the land to his cronies- some of whom have never-ever-visisted the land. If this so much touted land is actually the basis of ZIMBABWE's crisis, why is Mugabe not feeding his own people today.
Have you ever sat down and asked yourself why Mugabe only started the land grabbing after 20 years in power? Have you asked yourself?
Come on, African is a sorry place to live. We are nothing less than beasts of burden. We always talk about colonialism as if other places were not colonized. Damned!
Agray, I was saying that I agree with Johnson-Sirleaf. I was pointing out what you mentioned concerning Liberia's history since 1980.
But what I was simply saying about hand-outs was that most African economies are shattered or barely sustainable because of either civil war or lack of viable natural resources within their own borders to market to international buyers, thus it makes sense to maintain favorable conditions for foreign aid.
However, I think that to make one's foreign aid donors a reason for why one speaks against another country's policies is a logical fallacy, similar to an ad hominem (or attacking the messenger). I tend to find this fallacy accentuated on forums such as this, since the common tendency is to "blame whitey" or "blame the West" for economic and social problems that could've been ameliorated if the government simply accommodated its minorities rather than pull an "Idi Amin" (referring to how Idi Amin had expelled the Asians from Uganda and sent the economy down the toilet). Even Nyerere in Tanzania left the presidency when he realized that Ujamaa was making things worse in his country, which was already strapped for the sort of natural resources that had given so much money to his richer neighbors, and had (and continues to) made life much more miserable for the citizens of that same neighbor (Zaire).
At least Nyerere made like a Taiwanese minister and took responsibility for the economic failure of Ujamaa when he resigned, saying "I failed. Let's admit it." When will Mugabe take responsibility for at least the bloody fast-tracking of land reform and redistribution?
When will he take responsibility for the economic conditions which have driven some 2-4 million Zimbabwean citizens out of the country? I mean, what has the West done in Zimbabwe since Mugabe took over, and why does he blame the West for the present woes of Zimbabwe when no sanctions have been applied against trade with the country?
I ask again, what has the "West" (i.e., the UK, the US, Australia) done in Zimbabwe that would make the Zimbabwean government blame it for the economic and social problems within Zimbabwe's borders?
Agrae doesn't understand the tactics and economics of a control freak. Do you have a control freak in your life? I am sure you do not eat with them on the same table. If you do, just constantly controlled??
President Sirleaf's views depict more of Africa's useless leadership material who, without western aid and support could not even put bread on the table of their own people.
President Sirleaf, since entering office has made her country no more than a satellite of the USA. Unfortunately, because the average Liberian family lacks strong male leadership, this woman has consolidated power in the hands of a caste of clueless Liberia women who think that praises coming from white Americans and African-American feminists are indication that things are going well in that country. Just watch and see if Liberia will not enter into chaos again if she continues on the path of doing the west's bidding. President Sirleaf should be careful about poking her nose in Zimbabwe's business because her sell out tendencies will prove fatal to her own government soon enough.
Zimbabwe, be careful of the many sell outs like Johnson (Liberia) and Kikwete of Tanzania. These are the western educated stooges that are largely useless to the African cause because they work within the international financial set up that allows westerners to continue to take Africa for a ride.
allew609, you're so lost. It does not cross your mind that what Mugabe and ZANU PF did was more than barbaric? To you it's politics as usual with people being killed. If you're reading this, you're only doing this thanks to the West. Ok, slow down! I'm not saying that we should kiss the West's asses in order to get their things. My point is we should embrace common sense and work together for the betterment of ourselves. The truth is that the West got it and we Africans don't got it and if we want their things we should at least embrace the minimum requirement - DEMOCRACY. Why should we fight an ideological war with the West simply because we can? It doesn't benefit us at all. Let's bury all that colonialism and imperialism mentality and build our nations. Look at German and Japan. They put behind all the dirt from WW2 and worked for the betterment of their people.
There is no rocket science here. Mugabe and many greedy African leaders are wrong. Nothing to figure out. They are causing us a lot of suffering.
Peter C, you're the one who seems to be lost here. You show your gullibility by buying western propaganda about Mugabe and ZANU-PF. You know what is barbaric, the imposing of sanctions on a tiny African country causing untold hardships on its citizens all because the standing government did what any sensible country would do, take back their land from those who took it from them. Only a slave would do otherwise. This "democracy' crap you speak of is just the newest "religion" that the West is using to justify its interference in other sovereign countries. A few centuries ago it was "Christianity" being used by the same people to take African land. As for fighting "an ideological war" with the West, what are the alternatives for Africans, spineless acceptance of the West who became powerful from slavery and colonialism in Africa? Where's the pride? Have you no faith in Africans' abilities to run their own affairs without white people telling them to move from square A to square B? Mr. Mugabe is among the African leaders who are trying to move African from their slave/colonial mentality to true self-reliance and sovereignty. BTW, there are no lessons about WW2 that can be applied to Africa's fight to be independent and free from control by the West. Maybe you should study history just a bit more.
What is barbaric is actualy the murder of 20,000 Ndebele people by the butcher of Harare.
Which is about a week's total for the butchers of London and Washington.
it takes a madman to do it to his own people though.
djoser35, I'm not buying anybody's propaganda. If anything, I'm buying common sense. All this ideological bickering is crap if it does not bring results - FOOD ON THE TABLE OF A STARVING, RAGGED CHILD IN ZIMBABWE AND AFRICA FOR THAT MATTER. If you're going to rule so many people, don't you think you should at least get their minimum consent - DEMOCRACY? Being complient with common and sensible order does not mean that you are submiting to anybody. It's common sense. We have always had DEMOCRACY in Africa. It's now wrong because it's being emphasized by the West? By the way, what system of government do you espouse? Dictatorship? African? If African, then what's African?
PeterC. Gandhi of India went on hunger strike for India's Revolution. Food was there infront of him. I can see that you will continue to eat even if someone sit theit butt on your head, as long as there is food. Which fight will you give for Africa??
I do not know why my Questions are not answered on this blog.
Peter C, it is not the type of government that feeds starving and clothe ragged children in Africa or elsewhere, it's the countries resources and how they are owned and allocated to the people within the country. A benign dictatorship can be more beneficial to the majority of the people than one under "democratic" rule. There is nothing sacred about democracy as you seem to imply. Democracies can be just as abusive and misguided as any other form of government. To give you one historical example, the USA was set up as a "democracy" while it held millions of people in bondage. Democracies can and do start unjust wars, violate the rights of its citizens and flout international laws. They can interfere in the affairs of other sovereign states and in general create chaos in the world. In democracies an uninformed, lazy public can easily be manipulated by unscrupulous politicians who may only be interested in their own personal gain or that of their class. Would that be of any particular advantage to the majority of a country's people? My point is that there is nothing intrinsically good about democracy, it is just another form of government that people are experimenting with and which will likely evolve into something else. In any case, since over 2 million Zimbabwean citizens voted for Mr. Mugabe in their most recent elections, one would think you would be more supportive of this democracy. As for what type of government do I espouse, let me give you an example. Years ago, having been born and raised in a western "democracy", I went to live and work for an African country under military rule. During the time I was there the country was making great progress in developing its infrastructure, economy and maintaining harmony among different ethnic groups. Not long after I left, that country was "talked" into becoming a "democracy", far too soon in my estimation, considering their recent colonial history. And true to what I thought this country became a corrupt ethnic-fighting political mess and all the progress that was made under the previous military rule was halted and in many cases reversed. That country today is still in shambles under its "democracy". So in this case a "military dictatorship" was better for the country than a "democracy". As to which system of government do I prefer, I go for whichever one is in the best interest of the greatest number of its people.
I believe you are missing the point here. Would you like yourself, your brother, mother or father to be treated the way, Mugabe and his thugs are treating opposition members? Do you remember when Zimbabwe was self sufficient in food? Mr. Mugabe is not the only one in Zimbabwe competent to run that country. He had his chance so let him give someone else a chance to run that country please. Evil is evil no matter who commits it so we must not condone it when African leaders committing evil against their own people, people the swore to protect. Put yourself in the shoes of the sufferers, maybe,you will change your stance.
where is it leading africa.. i dont think these are the right steps for the further of zimbabwe... election results are always good for the country... we cant do anything now... lets wait and watch.. =========================================== tonygreig
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We, Africans are a shame to the human race. We do not deserve to rule ourselves. That's why we were colonized in the first place. We cannot come together for the right reasons. We only come together to collude on dictatorship. What's happening in Zimbabwe right now and the response from SADC and AU are clear testimony of our stupidity and confusion. Why have anything writen on democracy in our AU, SADC protocol books if we don't have the willingness to abide by them? It's a real travesty! There is no doubt that democracy can work for the benefit of all of us. If you look at German, Japan and all those countries that came out of WW2 tattered and a few years later they were right on the right track feeding their people and boasting prosperity. The Marshall Plan only worked because German embraced democracy. America would not have poured money on German had she not embraced democracy. We, Africans want to have it both ways. Mbeki does not have the best interest of the suffering Zimbabwean at heart. To him their plight does not exist. I am not surprised because this is the same idiot who denies the existence of AIDS. He has to be ashamed of himself. We do not expect anything from this idiot. These idiots are setting the wrong precedence. We're moaning the death of democracy. We're moaning the death of hope. We're moaning the death of properity. I'm ashamed to call myself African, let alone Zimbabwean!
I do think Mugabe is right on so many things. What I see here is western countries try to help their minority groups who happen to be white living in Zimbabwe. Why the Zimbabwe story is playing so hard in western media than Africa. The way western media is covering this story from beginning is real one sided. The western media is reporting these stories in most of African countries and people start believing this misleading stories. Africans need to have true media and not depend on western sources of information. The source of these challenges in Zimbabwe is land. The Zimbabwe's government has right to redistribute this land. I don't believe any African can move to England and claim a large portion of land. Today in Europe and US, Africans are stuggling to get jobs not land and most of them are moving there for education and jobs. It's so hard to try to relocate to western countries while they still want to discrimate you in so many opportunities. It is also so sad to see people like Pres. Sirleaf acting like she is not African. Sometime I get real confused, why African educated and rich minded people can't be free and use thier mind to make decisions for their Africans. Africans have to work to solve their problems and one day we have to unite to build strong economy. We can accomplish this by focusing on our issues not depending on IMF and World Bank. IMF and World Bank are businesses not non profit organizations.
ALL THESE WESTERN PLANTATION OVERSEERS RUNNING AFRICA FOR THEIR SLAVE BOSSES, NAMELY; UGANDA, NIGERIA, BOTSWANA, SIERA LEONE, GABON, GHANA, TANZANIA, ZAMBIA, KENYA UNDER ODINGA, AND LIBERIA OF COURSE UNDER THIS EUROPEAN DISGUISED AS BLACK WOMAN JOHNSON NEVER FAIL TO REVEAL TO US WHOSE INTEREST THEY ARE REALLY SERVING. WE SURELY KNOW THESE JOKERS ALL TOO WELL TO BE SUPRISSED BY THEIR OBVIOUS BIDDING FOR THE ENSLAVERS OF AFRAKAN PEOPLES AND OUR WEALTH. YE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THE FRUITS THEY BEAR!!
SOMETIMES I WONDER IF LIBERIA WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER OFF CHOOING A STREET GIRL FROM ARMSTEDAM, NETHERLANDS TO RUN THAT AMERIKKKAN SLAVE COLONIAL STATE (NO OFENSE TO THE GOOD PEOPLE OF OUR LIBERIA). EVER SINCE THIS WOMAN WAS PLANTED IN AFRAKA'S STATE OF LIBERIAN, WE HAVE SEEN SIRLEAF THROWING HERSELF WILD AROUND HER "AMERIKKKAN FRIENDS" LIKE PAUL WOLF'WITCH, G.W BUSH AND OTHER U.S. NEO-CONZ FAVOURS AND WHO KNOWS WHAT.
THE MOST SERIOUS THREAT INDEED FACING ALL OF AFRAKA BEING ELLEN'S FRETTING WITH THE DEVIL "AFRICOM" ON OUR SACRED SOIL! AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LISTEN TO ANYTHING THIS WOMAN HAS TO SAY? GOOD GRACIOUS!!1 HOW DID FELLOWS LIKE JOHNSON EVER GET TO REPRESENT A VOICE FOR A PEOPLE? OH, I KNOW WHY, THE WESTERN IMPOSSED DEMON-CRAZIES!!!!!!!! NO WONDER AFRAKA HAS FOLKS LIKE THIS WOMWN AND HER BUDDIES- THE ODINGAS AND CO. WE HIGHLY RECCOMMEND PSYCHIATRIC EVALUATION FOR ELLEN SIRLEAF JOHNSON AND CO, IN ORDER TO STOP THEIR PSYCOPATHY.
"PRESIDENT" JOHNSON MUST GO SIT UNDER THE PEOPLE'S PRESIDENT MUGABE AND THE ZIMBABWEANS, ONE OF THE FEW VOICES OF CONSCIENCE ON THE WHOLE OF THE AFRAKAN CONTINENT TO LEARN SOMTHING AS VALUABLE AS SOVEREINGTY, A TRULY INDEPENDENT STATE. PRECISELY, SIRLEAF MUST LEARN TO LEAD THE PEOPLE'S URGE FOR TOTAL FREEDOM OR LEAVE THE HELL OUT!!!
Do not think i have seen a comments thread with so much rubbish posted in it!
The man that always looks to the past, never reaches the future! Learn from the past but don't live in it like you all are as the world changes to quick and you get left behind like your thinking has.
PeterC is 100% correct and the jdoser is still living in 1980 or 1981 ask him. He thinks taking a life os someone is a joke. Hausati waurairwa hama yako shamwari kana kupondwa iwewe. What Zanu PF and thugs did is not acceptable they should go we need a govenment's people. We are sturving in the name of soveregnity, does soverignity bring food to my tale neither does it food to my family nor raise the murdered Zimbabweans from their graves. Talk reality its not about intervening in internal affairs of a country we are talking about people how are being murdered here because they hold a diffent opinion.
Tavakutonga, perhaps you could explain what "still living in 1980 or 1981" means, in a language that I have a reasonable grasp of. English for example. As for starving, perhaps if got up enough initiative to go plant a seed to grow some food to feed yourself and stop waiting for ole massa to give you a handout, things would be a lot better. This is what Mr. Mugabe is trying to teach you, self reliance. He's trying to give you back the resources that were stolen from you so you can live like other dignified people in the world, instead of having whites telling you what to think and how to live. Only in Africa do you find such nonsense so widespread. If it wasn't for people like Mr. Mugabe you would still be a modern-day slave in your own country.
I fully agreed with the position of the Liberian Government. It is instructive that our history, the political history of Liberia, is used to inform Africa about the folly of not recognizing a sham election when it happens. The people of Zimbabwe have suffered immensely in the last decade or so. They deserve a respite from a government that has failed miserably to respond to the needs and aspiration of its citizens. With unemployment as high as 85% (as is the case in Liberia),as more than 60 persons lost their lives in election related violence and scores of others beaten up, molested and properties worth millions of dollars destroyed by ZANU-PF supporters, as millions of its citizens vote with their feet by fleeing to neighboring countries and elsewhere in search for refuge and as the economy all but collapsed, it is long past time for ZANU-PF to pass the baton to another political tendency that has the support of the people of Zimbabwe as reflected in their choice at the ballot box. As they say, democracy may not be the best government, but it is the best system we now have in the world. Give democracy a chance, give the people of Zimbabwe a reason to believe in their country again. Another Zimbabwe is possible just as another Africa is Possible
MAMA SIERALE GO SLEEP YOU DIDNT WIN ELECTION YOU ARE THE SLAVE OF WEST PLS GO SLEEP
MAMA SIERALE GO SLEEP YOU DIDNT WIN ELECTION YOU ARE THE SLAVE OF WEST PLS GO SLEEP
Those who are blaming Mugabe are really out of their mind.Don´t think Mugabe is worst than the west.I alway appreciate Mugabe ideology of ´fighting against the imperialism.And is the only one in Africa may be around the world.Sirlif thinks that being in a good box with America Liberia will develop, let me deny that.When the Lion shows its teeths does not mean it smiles, but it preparing to eat you.So if America smiles at Sirlif it does not mean they like liberia, but it preparing to destroy it again.Sirlif be careful. Open you mind. The white people care more about their dogs and cats than a black person. God can open your eyes and see the future.Don´t rely in the present. Thank you
Suzan, wake up and turn caps lock off because you look like an idiot! I am starting to wonder if mugabe supplied keyboards for his few supporters have caps lock key glued on!
Mugabe will rule for the other five year my dear. if you want you can by a citizenship in the western country.I support Mugabe coz I know how bad are the west.have you ever been to any of the western countries and see how black are being treated, like animal,but you are claiming that the Mugabe is wrong. we don´t want to be colonise again. Pliz buy your citizenship in out Africa. Thank you......
West. African leaders un able to blame Mugabe coz, he is right.the weste can not leave africa alone? We have been trying to integrate in globilisation but nothing has change, actually they are the one benefiting. Who want to say that the situation in Zimbabwe is different from other African Country? May be south africa is an exception. The level of poverty, unmployment, HIV/ AIDs, poor leadership, poor governance, and most of the african are living with less than 1$ perday. So, why are you just poiting your fingers on Mugabe. The west should fisrt try to help the all Africa, coz most of african countries situations are the same.
hkarnwea don´t be like that hkarnwea
African leaders un able to blame Mugabe coz, he is right.the weste can not leave africa alone? We have been trying to integrate in globilisation but nothing has change, actually they are the one benefiting. Who want to say that the situation in Zimbabwe is different from other African Country? May be south africa is an exception. The level of poverty, unmployment, HIV/ AIDs, poor leadership, poor governance, and most of the african are living with less than 1$ perday. So, why are you just poiting your fingers on Mugabe. The west should fisrt try to help the all Africa, coz most of african countries situations are the same.
Hi West, just a caution, the people who have caps on may do so because of eye problems, ie either they don't have glasses or there is an astigmatism of some sort... not sure if I got the right word there or not... one other comment, you are doing a fine job of trying to talk sense, and I applaud you for it; but (of course there is always a goat under the hay rick) you have to understand, that there is a cultural difference here, that is as wide as the pacific is between Australia and Africa... it will take a few generations for the African people to grow out of their colonial and slavery days nightmare... it is similar to the problems that are besetting the Jews and the Germans since the second world war... perhaps a better way to put it would be to compare it to Europe after the Fall of the Roman Empire... the indigenous people needed almost 4 centuries to recover and build nations again under Charlemagne, with the Holy Roman Empire... I had hopes that that Libyan dude, Ghadafy would be the one to do it, but he couldn't get any unity going... which has also been mentioned here... I am sorry to say, there will be much bloodshed before Africa becomes truly free, in deed as well as truth... and I don't see it happening in my lifetime or yours, and probably not in our grand children's life time... in part I agree with some of the African commentators, that we in the west should hands off and no more assistance... as painful as that will be... learn to live without their resources and let them learn to live without our aid... at least those that don't want to... it will be like a drug addict going off of daggah, but in the end perhaps the patient will be stronger for it... both them and us... BTW, I farmed for 6 years in the 70's here in southern Ontario, on 80 acres, and agree with you on your farming comments, but I also agree with the gentleman who said that the old way of farming, during pre colonial times, on communal acreages, may be the way to start for Zimbabwe, because while it won't be intensive farming for huge crops, it will be food for the population that lives on that land, which I believe given the holocaust that is happening, will probably be adequate for the population that remains... or survives, as in after the Black Death in Europe... something for my African brothers and sisters to remember, when you are talking about the west, you are talking primarily of our Governments and our Business leaders... the common man in the street, those that comment here, are not representing the Government or Business, but the viewpoints of the general populous, we do care about what happens in Africa to the individual African man and women, boy and girl... there is pain when we hear of rapes and burnings of pregnant women, and the atrocities that are happening in Dafur and the Sudan... they are in Canada's media more publicized than your problems in South Africa; it is only in recent weeks that Zimbabwe has taken the news papers by surprise... for myself I have been following Zimbabwe for well on 11 years, as I had met people at my place of work from there, who were on temporary work visa's and are now presumably back in Zimbabwe... while I agree with the need for what Bob has done with land redistribution, I do question his methods...
You need to wake up before telling Mama Sirleaf to go to sleep. You are still sleeping not knowing how to use the computer keyboard properly. Don't you know that when you chat with others in Cap letters you are shouting at them? Prepare yourself properly before you tell a lady like President Sirleaf to go to sleep. You need to wake up before telling someone to go to sleep.
President Sirleaf was right to urge her colleagues to reject the result of the Zinbabwean election. All of us who read international news and watch CNN have seen and followed the gross abuse of power and human rights in that Country. Some of our readers are hailing Mugabe for taking farm land from the whites and giving it to the blacks; to what end? What has become of the country? Zinbabwe was the food basket for that region, what is it now. Shame on those who think that Africa can grow only by bad-mouthing white man and the west are very wrong. President Mugabe must allow a free and fair elecetion and if he wins faily, everybody will see it.Our President was right and I take my hat off to her for being the only head of state to speak against the shameful election in that southern African Country.
hkarnwea Shame on you ánd our president! President sirlif is not right,is being used by the west to manipulate Africa. Don´t thing the west are better freinds to your country than mugabe. We are african, Mugabe will step down at the right time, when the pressure from the outside africa will be over.He is mature enough and he knows what is doing no body can come and teach how to leave power.Mugabe is intelligent sirlif can not compare with.So president Sirlif should keep quiet and see how liberia is moving.We have just come out of war and you want show already to the world that everything in liberia is fine. I remember American fueling conflict in Liberia until the ECOMOG peace keepers were sent in.Don´t think that if Mugabe leave power things will be better in Zimbabwe.
Pliz: Don´t blame only Mugabe as I told you, because all the African president are the same including sirlif,Mugabe is better due to his ideology.
Bonjour your french, so you opinion does not matter to anyone,hahaha even martian's would laugh at the french having just met them:)
"Mature enough", well thats the only thing your right on but not in the right way.He is "Mature enough" like a cheese that has been left in the sun for 1000 years and has had goats pee on the whole time!
Hey, No Sell-outs in Africa. We will continue to resist everyday. Africa's minds have just been made more strong by Our Mugabe. Soon We will lead in making peace in the World. Not Power oriented. We have Humanity. Where is yours?
You have Humanity? What a joke! You call the murder of many many people because they want to vote for the oppositon party Humanity? What about the torture and intimidation of MDC supporters? I've seen some of the photos of what has happened to the victoms of this disgusting goverment and I can tell you that you definately DO NOT have humanity in Zimbabwe. What a joke!
Mugabe may seem to be a real devil in the Zimbabwe issue but the truth is external forces are at play and the aftermath of their activities are observed at Mugabe's face. Do you want me to believe that all of a suuden Mugabe has become so uncaring and cunning to the Zimbabwean people?NO! Do you want me to believe that all of a sudden the Americans and the West are darlings of Zimbabweans? Do you want me to believe that all of a sudden democarcy and rule of law is best practised by the Americans and the West?
Liberia, and democracy! Mugabe will surely go one day,but the truth of the matter is the world is not being honest,regarding the problems besetting Zimbabwe.Think a while before labelling Mugabe.
Yes its about time you worked out he does not care for the people of Zimbabwe, he only cares to steal as much money as he can from Zimbabwe and does not care how many of the Zimbabwe people starve and die! mugabe is getting worse as time goes on, the rest of the world is learning and getting better and fairer slowly but surely!
This commentator that calls himself west is indeed arrogant and stupid.If this person does,nt share your views he or she thinks you,re an idiot,I think this person is the bigger idiot here.If you,re black and still can,t see why zimbabwe is the way it is then you have a problem.If you,re one of those whose forefathers came to steal land and cattle from AFRICA, I can assure you that the game is up.The negative inteferance of liberia, Tanzania, Zambia, Nigeria,Ghana , and others for the imperialists, is sad for the unity of Africa.We are sick and tired of being thrown here and there by outside forces.But because these criminal forces know that they,ll always find accomplices in some Africa rulers, they,ll always subjugate us to all forms of blackmail.Africa for Africans.
Mugabe is the living proof that Power Corrupts, and that Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.
When Mugabe came to power in 1980 (with the assistance of the UK Government, including its sanctions on the Smith regime) the country was thriving. Its health and education services were the envy of the region and, thanks to a first-class infrastructure and a healthy economy, the future looked bright. It doesn’t look like that now.
Instead of blaming the west and Whitey’ for all their ills, some of the contributors to this website should undertake a bit of introspective navel-gazing, and ask themselves why Zimbabwe’s economy and agriculture has gone so far down the pan.
Perhaps they should ask themselves that question whilst chewing on the food that the west and whitey have donated.
To help concentrate their minds, it’s worth mentioning that USAID has contributed nearly $600 million to humanitarian operations in Zimbabwe since 2002, and millions of GB pounds more from the UK Government - much-maligned on this site/ Perhaps that’s why the racist clown Mugabe and his troupe of performing thugs look so well-fed!
For the benefit of those who mistakenly believe Mugabe’ds misguided and risible rhetoric about the west not caring :
1. The UK’s Department For International Development’s (DFID) annual contribution to Zimbabwe is £44 million. This includes support for orphans and vulnerable children, livelihoods support, assistance for displaced people, HIV/AIDS prevention, treatment and care, water and sanitation and essential drugs. 2. DFID is focussed on safeguarding rural livelihoods through the Protracted Relief Programme (PRP), which promotes self reliance and assists poor families to provide for themselves. The PRP will total £50 million over five years (from 2008-2013). 3. As well as support to humanitarian programmes the UK is funding an expanded response to the AIDS crisis and will help support almost 50,000 people on treatment. DFID also provides £25 million for support to orphans and vulnerable children which have reached over 180,000 children. 4. All DFID funding is channelled through the UN and NGOs. No funding goes directly to the Government of Zimbabwe. 5. The Crop and Food Supply Assessment mission (CFSAM), conducted jointly with FAO and the Government of Zimbabwe in May 2008 indicated that last season’s production will cover only a third of Zimbabwe’s cereal requirements. DFID’s contribution will contribute to the feeding of up to 4 million Zimbabweans, including the mobile and displaced in the year ahead.
Dont speak out on the Zimbabwean situation if you dont have and understanding of it. Everybody is entitled to his or her own opinion as long as he or she has an understanding of the topic at hand.Robert Mugabe was a hero in 1980 when he ushered in a new era in African history and Zimbabwean history. He has long since turned to a villian, brutualiasing and murdering the same electorate that voted him into power in 1980. So i take it personally when some uninformed individuals give credibility to a ruler who is hated by the majority of Zimbabweans who voted against him during the March 29 election and is a symbol of their intense suffering.
What majority are you talking about being brutalized and murdered the fictional "majority" as described by the western massive lying machine and their for-hire stooges or the ones that recently voted for Mr. Mugabe for president by a margin of about 85%? BTW, I have a very good understanding of the Zimbabwean situation, how about you?
Well dLoser, if you seriosly think that 85% of Zimbabwe wants Mugabe in power then your belief that you have a "very good" understanding of the Zimbabwe situation is clearly quite deluded.
Question What is Mugabe's Zimbabwe denying theAnglo American Axis from having ? It is being reported that English and American agents are covertly funding Zimbabweans to repeat the process that they used successfully on Moḥammad Moṣaddeq, Prime Minister of Iran from 1951 to 1953 He was removed from power by a coup d'état. These tactics are: Anglo / USA agents entice week Zimbabweans to act as Mugabie supporters . while carrying out acts of oppression against all known members of the opposition in the form of. Bombing , murders, flog, in the name of the President, and his party British and Americans also used that strategy in , El Salvador and Iraq Their Agents operating in Iraq were killed hundreds of thousand of civilians fermenting sectarian violence Shias against Sunnies by blowing up mosques and killing shias and sunnis with "their death squads" (There are pictures on the web and on numerous Arab and Asian networks clearly show to be CAUCASIANS and BLACKS IN MASKS) This tactics was also successfully used in creating a coup in Iran. Bombing and murders were blamed on the President (Mosaddeq ). The Anglo /USA AXIS won that round and installed the Shah who promptly gave them the key to Irans oil fields
Many countries have gone through this tactic, uncooperative leaders were usually dispatched in one way or another. Here is how it works... US and England comes in, request a form of compliance from the Prey Country, should it refuse to cooperate,The country is squeezed economically ( sanctions trade restrictions)if that fails, destabilization in the form of phisical atrosities against important people and places, leaders character assignation follows , then a coup-de-ta, then Assignation, then war preferably by a surrogate nation. If the load is to heavy for the Surrogate The Anglos will come in to do the Job. itÂ’s leaders are replaced or killed
. Iraq Iran, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Paraguay, Venezuela, Panama Haiti, Congo et cetera (Read John Perkins, a former respected member of the international banking community. In his book _Confessions of an Economic Hit Man)_
Then there is economic blackmail, another powerful weapon in their arsenal, using the IMF World Bank, Inter-American Development Bank Trade restrictions, the Seizing of National assets. All these tools used in consort to entrap countries in economic servitude The Anglo Saxon Diaspora also uses these tools to whip stubborn mavericks into line.in order to loot their Countries national and human resources
Can Mugabe's Zimbabwe survive the Anglo / American on slaught? Are Asian countries strong enough to come to the old Warriers MugabeÂ’ and ZimbabweÂ’s rescue? The West has brutally abused Africa for Decades , now there is a new man in town who has come courting her. Answer
Why is Zimbabwe still afloat? Â…China Why the Anglo American axis is trying to stop Mugabe China
By HANY BESADA Special to Globe and Mail Update July 2, 2008 at 8:59 PM EDT How has Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe managed to avert a complete state collapse thus far? His disillusioned citizens are facing a new wave of price increases that will put the most basic of food essentials even further out of their reach. On the streets of Harare, a loaf of bread costs the equivalent of what a dozen new cars would have cost a decade ago (when factoring current consumer price indicators and inflation figures). With public wages largely unchanged, as many as three million Zimbabweans have been forced to take up menial jobs in neighbouring South Africa to support their families. Figures released by independent economists in Zimbabwe last week show that the annual inflation rate has reached 9 million per cent. With the worthless Zimbabwean dollar trading at more than one billion to £1, the country's central bank announced the introduction of a billion-dollar banknote. With a sinking economy and hyperinflation that has produced millionaires and billionaires struggling to feed their families, how is it that Zimbabwe is still afloat? One answer may be China. By many accounts, China has become one of Zimbabwe's most important foreign investors, following the exodus of Western multinationals in the mid-1990s as a result of the worsening political and security situation in the wake of the seizure of white-owned farms. Last month, China's ambassador to Zimbabwe said a Chinese company was seriously exploring the possibility of investing $500-million (U.S.) for electricity generation in Zimbabwe. This comes on the heels of discussions between the two countries on expanding bilateral trade and investments. In the past two years, China has thrown Zimbabwe's disintegrating economy a lifeline with energy and mining deals, reportedly worth more than $1.6-billion.
It was reported that these deals gave China access to Zimbabwe's precious mineral resources, including the world's second- largest deposits of platinum, as well as gold, chrome, coal, nickel and diamonds.
These major investment projects included the construction of three coal-fired thermal power stations to assist the state power company, which was cutting customers' electricity for seven hours a day.
It also included a deal with the China Machine-Building International Corp. to mine coal and build thermal-powered generators in Zimbabwe, with the aim of reducing the country's electricity shortage. Indeed, Beijing's economic support for Harare remains strong and, through its efforts, China has secured the contracts to develop Zimbabwe's agricultural, mineral and hydroelectric resources. Tobacco counts amongst Zimbabwe's top exports, and China is Zimbabwe's largest importer. China has made large investments in the country's tobacco production and processing industry, and also has injected more than $200-million into Zimbabwe's farming, manufacturing and mining sectors. China supplies Zimbabwe with expertise, technical assistance and agricultural equipment. Chinese investors also helped Zimbabwe process tobacco into cigarettes and export them as finished products. And investors and a local company undertook a joint venture in the form of a large cement factory in Gweru to meet the national demand for cement. Western analysts and Zimbabwean critics contend that Beijing will continue to support Harare unconditionally, while piling up various claims on Zimbabwe's natural resources and other commodities. With a lack of direct competition by Western firms in the local market, Zimbabwe will remain one of China's important resource bases. But Zimbabwe's fragile state is putting Beijing in an increasingly vulnerable situation, as Western condemnation of China's long-standing ties with the autocratic Mr. Mugabe is becoming increasingly more vocal. China's continued involvement in Zimbabwe, particularly in the agricultural and mining sectors, also carries significant sovereign risk – and Beijing is gambling it will be able to manage relations so as to guarantee its claims in what would almost certainly continue to be a chaotic transition period. Zimbabwe's socio-economic profile has undergone a seismic change. The growing importance of China in the country's economy is evidenced by economic assistance and foreign investment deals in the extractive sector, in state-owned enterprises and in the agricultural sector. The key to this is China's willingness to use barter trade to secure investment deals, and it appears as though China's motives are actually economic – namely, to satisfy its growing economic needs. A constructive engagement with China will have to be put in place, focusing on improving transparency in contracts, investment deals and loan agreements. This will be particularly critical in any post-Mugabe economic reconstruction period if ordinary Zimbabweans are to reap the full benefits of increased Chinese investments instead of only a current handful of political elite in Harare. Hany Besada is a senior researcher at the Centre for International Governance Innovation in Waterloo, Ont.
Kingsfoolish, just cut down your rubbish a bit on the website. The whole pierce is unreadeable. Use concise language and shorten your piece, to get your messege across. I know you are not Shakespear...cut the CRAP...
“Give me control of the economics of a Country; and I care not who makes her laws” ………………………………… Amsel Rothschield
In the human family there are three psychological types of personalities and most Military generals know of them It is vital to them prior to the physical or financial occupation of a Country or Territory. These three Types are (1) The warrior class ---(NOTE Some military personnel could be included)They by nature will defend their family, friends, and Country to the death conclusion not very easily defeated uncontrollable (2) The nurturing class ---They will bend and go to great lengths to hold their family and country together ---Conclusion-------(compromisers) not trustworthy (c) The opportunist class-----They are driven only by self interest ,(Controllable) makes excellent surrogates They most often have no scruples and will betray friends, family and country for their own personal gains A predatorily Country will always seek out and collaborate with the their targeted country’s opportunistic class, whom they usually use to destabilize the target Country or state. prior to its financial or physical attack on that country. The Opportunistic class will usually serve their Imperial master interest and themselves. They have no interest in serving the greater good of the state or Country and the citizens in it Always be cognizant to the fact that a countries and its peoples interest are always diametrically apposite and is always in conflict with outside Imperial Interest The most diminutive (small) of birds will fight for her young ones in her nest against the owl, all is the fear and nothing is the love… Macbeth
May Mother Africa Protect Mugabe…
“Give me control of the economics of a Country; and I care not who makes her laws” ………………………………… Amsel Rothschield
In the human family there are three psychological types of personalities and most Military generals know of them It is vital to them prior to the physical or financial occupation of a Country or Territory. These three Types are (1) The warrior class ---(NOTE Some military personnel could be included)They by nature will defend their family, friends, and Country to the death conclusion not very easily defeated uncontrollable (2) The nurturing class ---They will bend and go to great lengths to hold their family and country together ---Conclusion-------(compromisers) not trustworthy (c) The opportunist class-----They are driven only by self interest ,(Controllable) makes excellent surrogates They most often have no scruples and will betray friends, family and country for their own personal gains A predatorily Country will always seek out and collaborate with the their targeted country’s opportunistic class, whom they usually use to destabilize the target Country or state. prior to its financial or physical attack on that country. The Opportunistic class will usually serve their Imperial master interest and themselves. They have no interest in serving the greater good of the state or Country and the citizens in it Always be cognizant to the fact that a countries and its peoples interest are always diametrically apposite and is always in conflict with outside Imperial Interest The most diminutive (small) of birds will fight for her young ones in her nest against the owl, all is the fear and nothing is the love… Macbeth
May Mother Africa Protect Mugabe…
The current situation faced by the Zimbabwean should not be taken as a matter of chance for this is what has been happening in this part of the world. It therefore dose not surprise me while leaders who have used the same means to get in to power are silent now.i am therefore of the opinion that this problem is not a today problem and should be looked into as such."African leaders should learn to solve Africa's problems". There is just no way that the western world has ever helped African's without taking more from them that is while they were fast in suggesting sanctions on an already devastated economy ,in what ways would this have affected mungabe more than our already suffering brothers
Which country is next? My advice to those who did not denounce Zimbabwe election are missing out from thousands of dollars being handed out for saying so. In fact, it is a pity those African governments who pretend standing up for the well being of Zimbabwe people are doing business by shouting out and get the hand-out at the expense of Zimbabwean people. How sad!