its a same for jammeh to make comment like, that, the world has seen whats going on in zimbabwe. i can say this make me scared cos jammeh can turn like mugabe,just to stay in pawer. even when people dont want him. thats how far this pawer hungers can go.lets all try and stop mugabea killing his own people.

the situation in zim needs better understanding . we need long term future for the next generation. your mugabe is looking on his pocket not the country's future. we need better leadership and freedom.

The Gamgian bastard knows nothing about how we Zimbabweans are going through. All I can sa is beche ramai vake, msunukhanina.

As a Gambian, i almost cried reading the comments from Jammeh. To see the collective sufferings of fellow Africans and for that to be trivialized and brushed off, is beyond comprehension. The time will come when both men will have to answer to thier inhumane treatment of their citizens that they swore to server and protect. God help us all from Dictators like Jammeh.

What do you expect to hear from someone who claim to cure AIDS? Unfortunately, African have been lead by miscreants and sadly so when one considers the enormous talents in the continent. If after 28 odd years leading a nation and you end up with the situation where your own citizens are fleeing their country, then it is time to consider your role as a leader.

Just as you rightly asked what to expect from a man who claims to cure AIDS, this man is a psychopath and I am not all surprised by his utterances.It is rather embarrassing for our continent to have such a leader in our midst.

What do you expect to hear from someone who claim to cure AIDS? Unfortunately, Africa have been lead by miscreants and sadly so when one considers the enormous talents in the continent. If after 28 odd years leading a nation and you end up with the situation where your own citizens are fleeing their country as a result of hunger caused not by a natural disaster, then it is time to reconsider your role as a leader.

Either Jammeh was misquoted or if he truly said these words then it goes to show how the average African leader is out of tocuh with reality! If I were to list the most respected leaders in Africa, Mugabe and Jammeh would be at the bottom of the list! Shame on them!

kudos presde Jammeh we need true leaders like you in Africa. 5 more Chavez and Castro in Latin America, 10 Mugabe and 5 Mbeki are enough to shake the west and cohorts.

NO NEED FOR SUCH LANGUAGE. Yes Zimbabweans have suffered and we need a change. Please read comments made by beles then think of the Smith regime. maybe you did not go through it but i did. i do not support Mugabe at all and cant wait to see him leave government but Dr Yahya Jammeh's comments are not entirly untrue. still we need change and African leaders need to stand up to Mugabe. By the way nothing ever happened to Smith, he hung my brother in one of his prisons for so called crimes against his regime. All for standing up to that opressive regime.

Am rather saddened by the plight of my brothers in zimbabwe as are most genuine human beings would definetly be,but i think some commentators are abit heavy handed with regards to the gambian president.Lets call a spade a spade here suffering of a propotions not even comparable to that of zimbabwe,not dismising it though,have had happened to and is still happening e.g Rwanda and presently darfur.the kid of media attention mugabe is getting is more than that of the people of zimbabwe who's suffering is also directly or otherwise contributed to by sanctions by the G8 group of nations.all because mugabe has stood up for his people and for future generations to appropriate lands which for centuries have been white dominated to its rightful owners is the elephant in the room.not that the west is suddenly sympathetic or care much for the fate of black Africa because dictatorship has been going on with the blessing of the west all over the world for a long timeso is election violence.let AFRICANS UNITE OPEN OUR EYES AND FIND AN AFRICAN SOLUTION TO AN AFRICAN PROBLEM.Because the west if they dont add to our problems wouldn'nt solve it unless their interests are threaten.NO TO NEO-COLONIALIST AND THEIR PUPPETS.

Yeah, right. What you "Zimbabweans are going through" is so ruddy tough that it comes with Internet access.

I'm not even convinced that you're in Zimbabwe and bet you have a second floor apartment in some European cosmos.

Being so emotional as U sound proves the level of mind you have. It wouldn't be suprising if you insult me too. We have problems in Zimbabwe but it does warrent You insulting a leader for his honest opinion. You do not have respect as a person. Learn Some. Zimbabwe is going through an economic war waged by the west which the MDC urged on. So who is making Zimbabwe suffer. Yes some people get killed but not only in Zimbabwe. Guantanamo bay, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Sudan, Palestine, Israel just to mention a few places where gross human rights violation is going on even to this minute. So why the partiality as is they the West really love Zimbabweans. For yo info they couldn't care less. So don't just hate on a African statesman. Grow up.

It shamefull to have such a President in Africa. Killing a fellow african on pretex of unity is shamefull. This President should be stripped is doctorial name. I belive he is also a dictator a sadist and a killer. Time will come when he will pay for his sins comitted to his fellow african by supporting the monster.

Mugabe is one of the crude, shamelesss and psychotic so called leaders who are ruining Africa--in the list are Idi Amin, Abacha, Stupid Jammeh and other bastards, so called African leaders whose tongues are too heavy to condenm and talk sense into Mugabe head, but rather are lining behind him like zombies. Mugabe has made made the presidency of Zimbabwe his birth-right. He kills his people, starves them, set brothers against one another, denies their cry for help and claimes only God can remove him, and so will it be that God will arise in His might and stike him dead, just like He did Abacha. Jehovah has heard the voices of his children, and that he ll not ignore. He will deliver in the day of trouble as He promised. Mugabe has last chance now to heed the voice of God and live, let him ask Miriam Abacha how his husband died like a fly in the middle of the night when the Almighty struck him. Mugabe will suffer same fate when he exhausted his time to repent. Mugabe is no African leader, he is an African bully. I'm watching from USA as Mugabe's madness unfolds and I have prayed--Mugabe will know no rest now or in his grave, same for all his henchmen. Mugabe's end has come, just watch and see as his end unfolds. St Johnson, USA.

Nay my friend, Mr. Mugabe is the opposite of what you portray him. He is a dedicated freedom fighter with the interest of real Africans in mind. He not only spent years fighting the foreigners who illegally occupied the land of his people, he successfully returned the land to many of his own people. Unlike those pathetic African leaders of today who, much like those of yesteryear, sold out their own people for trinkets brought to them by the ancestors of those who are attacking him today, Mr. Mugabe has done much to help Africans to become truly free and independent of foreign domination. The fact that in 28 years of leadership in his country he has brought his people to the highest literacy in all of Africa. That is quite an achievement on its own. Additionally some 300,000 indigenous families had the land stolen from their ancestors returned to them under the Mugabe government and any African who finds something wrong with that has to be at least stupid. Maybe the reason that the African leaders that you condemn in your little piece don't condemn Mr. Mugabe because they know the truth is not as western media portray it and therefore find no reason to. Perhaps, they are not dependent on western dole to fund their private accounts or keep them in office as some of the others are. Or maybe it's just that they have integrity and some pride in being an African.

What a load of bollocks. But as usual, its what I expect from you. If this is all so true, then why did the majority of the country vote against him? If he is doing such a good job, why is the economy in ruin? Why does Mugabe have the blood of his own people on his hands? Why are there so many Zimbabweans terrified of the government? The truth is he is a mass murdering genocial maniac who does not care about his people and is happy to murder them to keep in power. You talk about Mugabe bring the highest literacy rate in africa to Zimbabwe... Please show us some evidence of this. Its clearly lies. Show us what the literacy rate was when Mugabe came to power, and what it is now. And show us how many farms he's given to politicians which now sit idle.

St. Johnson, President Mugabe has ruled like George Bush. Bush, rigged elections, denied citizens to vote in Ohio, he continues to deny the existance of global warming, he invaded Iraq without due cause, except oil and only to charge more for oil. The Bushes have an entitlement to power, wealth etc in the USA. In Africa we call that nepotism. A father passing on the Presidency to a son! shows just how corrupt the American system is, and IS NO EXAMPLE FOR AFRICAN DEMOCRACY!George Bush has a low IQ, worse than Idi Amin...This, for a country that boast to have the greatest democracy...What a joke!

Haile King Salase the king reign forever years after your demise, conqueror roaring lion of judah.thy words still rings in our ears.the prejudice against us and among the race made us a stooge to the western world.its all of our blame for the lack of truth ,love ,honesty and mostly love of our land our home,the most beautiful planet on earth blessed by this unimaginable nature.Jah Rastafara is your mighty name

What i can Say about this muppet of a President, and I use the word president, very loosely a monster supporting a monster, You make me sick yaya.

You may not like what the Honourable President of the Gambia is saying but it is the stark naked truth! Call him names and all you want - I would never sell my birthright and that is what these wise leaders of our motherland are seeing and unfortunately the lot of us are thinking with our stomachs because of the sanctions which is very shortsighted!

I admire the president of Gambia for telling the truth about the truth that the west backed government of Meles Zenawi in Esat Africa. He murdered thousends of people and put in death row the entire oposition but gets pat on the back by bush and Blair and gets millions of dollars and weapon to continue his atrocities. It gives me kreeps when the news out lets CNN and BBC and the western country leaders show outrage and indignation on what is happning in Zembabwe. It also scares me to know on what kind of moraly corrupt and double faced individuals hand the fate of the world and Africa lies.

That said I do not believe Mugabes actions are defensible in any way. In fact the actions of the west demands us to fallow a more righteous and morally superior path.

But the problem is the president of Gambia is also no better than Mugabe or the western colonial powers, who feel destined to rule Africans. He came to power with barrel of the gun, rules with intimidation and terror. This is a man who threatens the lively hood of the people if they do not vote for him. That is what Mugabe did and that is what Meles Zenawi did.

No single individual or group knows what is best for Africans. Only the people of Africa spoken freely, without intimidation knows what is good for Africans. Morgan Tchangarai did not threaten in any way the people of Zimbabwe. Even if he wants he did not have the means. So we can conclude if he is elected he would be elected by the free will of the people of Zimababwe. Whether we like him or not that should be accepted by all.

We need freedom not only from the western backed tyrants but from home grown tyrants who see the life and freedom of African no better than life and freedom of a fly.

As a Gambian i concurred in part to what MR. Jammeh has said. But the underlying burden to which Zibabwean people are enduring presently is appaling for any human being to tolerate such a perpectuated malice on it's people..not mentioning your own ciitizen who along with your gallant comrades liberated some decades ago.It's is also worth noting the magnitude of anguish for the peope Zimbabwe which is not their own making but by the policies of their politicians.

We all must learn the fateful lesson to not become like these dictators. We can criticize but we must learn. More powerful entities will always try to subvert weaker ones. This is human nature. Hmong have an old saying, "you can become evil in the blink of an eye, but you may fail to be truely good even after one year of trying." This is what you are seeing with many African leaders and the interaction between rich, Western countries and poor Africa.

You can break this viscious cycle by looking into your mirror and ask yourselves if you are giving your peoples the same chance to better their lives as you are giving your own children. If you can answer that question honestly; then, you have taken that first step to true independence from your colonial masters. Otherwise, you are fooling yourselves that your dictatorship and oppressive methods are warding off your old masters, but in fact, you are playing right into their hands. They do not want you to become economically and politically vibrant; so that, you can knock off the NBA's all stars at the olympics or defeat American track and boxing stars or defeat Michael Phelps in swimming at the olympics or become independent of USAID or Western hand-outs. These dictators, or if you become one, will play into that hand and not independence for yourselves and your peoples. Good luck.

President Alhaji Dr Yahya Jammeh is entitled and free to express his views on the situation on Zimbabwe. A careful reading of his comments makes one believe that the fight is between Africa and the West. He urges Africans to stand for Mugabe an African, not for Morgan Tsvangarai, a "sell out". Whether that is true or not, Africans must stand for the people of Zimbabwe so that their dignity and pride can be restored. They have been living in pain and indignation for the past eight years and the trauma must stop. Mugabe is an African, so is Tsvangarai. These two guys can afford three meals per day but for the ordinary people of Zimbabwe,each day brings with it starvation. This is not the time to find out who is the good, the bad or the ugly guy. The leadership in Zimbabwe has messed up and it is time for reconciliation, for unity and for peace and justice so that Zimbabweans can learn to enjoy the fruits of independance that they fought and died for. For peace and democracy in Zimbabwe.

yes a lot of Zimbabweans have suffered due to mistakes made by Mugabe's regime, but some statements made by Dr Yahya Jammeh are valid. Westaern countries always make comments or take action when it suites them or when they have something to gain. Why were they so quick to endorse Mr Tsvangirai after it emerged that he had won the first round of elections, but days before the were shouting that the elections were a sham. I can not say outright that Tsvangirai is a puppet of the west but i would not put it past him. He is so quick to run to the western countries for help. To his defence maybe most African leaders have not been open about where they stand with the situation in Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe was raped by the white minority since the 60's all the way through to the 80's because they still had economic controll. I was not allowed to walk on the pavement in Harare them Salisbury named after a city in England. I had to show a pass that allowed me to live and work in the capital of my own country. We were constantly beaten up in night raids in the hostels we stayed in in mbare (1970's), women raped etc. none of the police were ever brought to justice and yes some are alive and well living in Zimbabwean farms, land they now will not share with the black majority. the west has never called for any of these poeple to be brought to justice bcause i think they are their own people. why are they so quick to jump to prosecute Mugabe or other african leaders eg Bemba currently held in the Hague. yes Bemba DID WRONG BUT STOP THE DOUBLE STARNDARDS. What happened to Ian Smith? Nothing but the crimes his gorvenment commited made BLACK ZIMBABWEANS SUFFER. I dont support what Mugabe has done but some of his polices were right but the west was quick to get their hands in Zimbabwe. I believe THE WEST SHOULD PLAY A SMALLER ROLE IN ZIMBABWE.

Hello! What a shame! Mugabe is killing the people that he claimed to have liberated and one President of Gambia is putting thumps up..It shatters my small brains completely when i hear such sentiments. He massacred over 20 000 in early 80`s in what is regarded as Southern Africa`s worst genocide. Which imperialist were challenging him by then? Africa should learn to condemn evils from our leaders. We need a progressive society which can champion the course of its destiny with clarity of vision and purpose without constantly taking excuses on our historical challenges. Thats the rhetoric of tyrants which should not be entertainment at all costs. Gambians should be careful of Yahya Jammeh, the earlier he goes the better for the future of that country.

Question What is Mugabe's Zimbabwe denying theAnglo American Axis from having? It is being reported that English and American agents are covertly funding Zimbabweans to repeat the process that they used successfully on Moḥammad Moṣaddeq, Prime Minister of Iran from 1951 to 1953 when he was removed from power by a coup d'état. These tactics are: using their agents as Mugabiees supporters . while carrying out acts of oppression against all known members of the opposition in the form of. Bombing , murders, flog, in the name of the President, and his party British and Americans also used that strategy in Iraq Their Agents operating in Iraq were killed hundreds of thousand of civilians and was breeding sectarian violence by blowing up mosques and killing shias and sunnis with "death squads" (There are pictures on the web and on numerous Arab and Asian networks clearly show to be CAUCASIANS and BLACKS IN MASKS) This tactics was successfully used in creating a coup in Iran. Bombing and murders were blamed on the President (Mosaddeq ). They won and the Shah was installed to power

Many countries have gone through this tactic to their leaders demise. The US and England comes in, says what it wants from the country, if it does not cooperate, they are replaced or killed like in. Iraq Nicaragua, Guatemala, Paraguay, Venezuela, Panama Haiti, Congo et cetera (Read John Perkins, a former respected member of the international banking community. In his book _Confessions of an Economic Hit Man)_ Then there is economic blackmail, another powerful weapon in their arsenal, using the IMF World Bank, Inter-American Development Bank Trade restrictions, the Seizing of National assets. in to entrap countries in economic servitude Today these are but a few of the tools The Anglo Saxon Diaspora uses to whip stubborn mavericks into line.in order to loot their Countries national and human resources Can Mugabe's Zimbabwe survive the Anglo / American on slaught? Are Asian countries strong enough to come to his rescue? The West has been an Brutal Abusive husband to Africa for Decades now their is a new man in town courting her.

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Why is Zimbabwe still afloat? …China Why the Anglo American axis is trying to stop Mugabe?.. China By HANY BESADA Special to Globe and Mail Update July 2, 2008 at 8:59 PM EDT How has Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe managed to avert a complete state collapse thus far? His disillusioned citizens are facing a new wave of price increases that will put the most basic of food essentials even further out of their reach. On the streets of Harare, a loaf of bread costs the equivalent of what a dozen new cars would have cost a decade ago (when factoring current consumer price indicators and inflation figures). With public wages largely unchanged, as many as three million Zimbabweans have been forced to take up menial jobs in neighbouring South Africa to support their families. Figures released by independent economists in Zimbabwe last week show that the annual inflation rate has reached 9 million per cent. With the worthless Zimbabwean dollar trading at more than one billion to £1, the country's central bank announced the introduction of a billion-dollar banknote. With a sinking economy and hyperinflation that has produced millionaires and billionaires struggling to feed their families, how is it that Zimbabwe is still afloat? One answer may be China. By many accounts, China has become one of Zimbabwe's most important foreign investors, following the exodus of Western multinationals in the mid-1990s as a result of the worsening political and security situation in the wake of the seizure of white-owned farms. Last month, China's ambassador to Zimbabwe said a Chinese company was seriously exploring the possibility of investing $500-million (U.S.) for electricity generation in Zimbabwe. This comes on the heels of discussions between the two countries on expanding bilateral trade and investments. In the past two years, China has thrown Zimbabwe's disintegrating economy a lifeline with energy and mining deals, reportedly worth more than $1.6-billion. It was reported that these deals gave China access to Zimbabwe's precious mineral resources, including the world's second- largest deposits of platinum, as well as gold, chrome, coal, nickel and diamonds. These major investment projects included the construction of three coal-fired thermal power stations to assist the state power company, which was cutting customers' electricity for seven hours a day. It also included a deal with the China Machine-Building International Corp. to mine coal and build thermal-powered generators in Zimbabwe, with the aim of reducing the country's electricity shortage. Indeed, Beijing's economic support for Harare remains strong and, through its efforts, China has secured the contracts to develop Zimbabwe's agricultural, mineral and hydroelectric resources. Tobacco counts amongst Zimbabwe's top exports, and China is Zimbabwe's largest importer. China has made large investments in the country's tobacco production and processing industry, and also has injected more than $200-million into Zimbabwe's farming, manufacturing and mining sectors. China supplies Zimbabwe with expertise, technical assistance and agricultural equipment. Chinese investors also helped Zimbabwe process tobacco into cigarettes and export them as finished products. And investors and a local company undertook a joint venture in the form of a large cement factory in Gweru to meet the national demand for cement. Western analysts and Zimbabwean critics contend that Beijing will continue to support Harare unconditionally, while piling up various claims on Zimbabwe's natural resources and other commodities. With a lack of direct competition by Western firms in the local market, Zimbabwe will remain one of China's important resource bases. But Zimbabwe's fragile state is putting Beijing in an increasingly vulnerable situation, as Western condemnation of China's long-standing ties with the autocratic Mr. Mugabe is becoming increasingly more vocal. China's continued involvement in Zimbabwe, particularly in the agricultural and mining sectors, also carries significant sovereign risk – and Beijing is gambling it will be able to manage relations so as to guarantee its claims in what would almost certainly continue to be a chaotic transition period. Zimbabwe's socio-economic profile has undergone a seismic change. The growing importance of China in the country's economy is evidenced by economic assistance and foreign investment deals in the extractive sector, in state-owned enterprises and in the agricultural sector. The key to this is China's willingness to use barter trade to secure investment deals, and it appears as though China's motives are actually economic – namely, to satisfy its growing economic needs. A constructive engagement with China will have to be put in place, focusing on improving transparency in contracts, investment deals and loan agreements. This will be particularly critical in any post-Mugabe economic reconstruction period if ordinary Zimbabweans are to reap the full benefits of increased Chinese investments instead of only a current handful of political elite in Harare. Hany Besada is a senior researcher at the Centre for International Governance Innovation in Waterloo, Ont.

"Birds of the same feather flock together" if he can say the the Zimbabwe's election is valid.

Mama Africa oooo hear her cries. We have a number of dictators that we need to keep a very close eye on. 1.Musevine in Uganda - no intent to step down- sham elections 2.Bonga in Gabon - no intent to step down- sham elections 3.Bashir in Sudan 4.Jammeh in Gambia- no intent to step down- sham elections 5.Mugabe in Zimbabwe- no intent to step down- sham elections 6.Biya in Cameroon has not intent to step down 7.Kibaki in Kenya -had no intent to step down in 2007-rigged/sham elections

They talk about a Western concept defined as democracy with Western titles as President and Prime Ministers and once elected they come out of their cloaks as full fledged Paramount Chiefs...they want the goodies from the West but grossly mismanage. then we have 2 of them playing doctor to cure poor people and know it all for AIDS:Jammeh and Mbeki the screwballs idiots killing their own people. Mbeki is key to the goings on in Zimbabwe...he wants the people dead and that is why he dragged this thing out...he has nothing to loose...Its up to us Africans to make a difference in out own small way and get our citizens highly literate so that they dont fall in the traps of leaders that want to buy their votes for less than 50 cents.

Dr Jammeh, Mbeki,Mugabe behave as if they are born of the same woman. Dictators, who look at thier pockets. What is it that you praise about Mugabe. Is it sane to have half of the population fleeing the country. Doctor you are trying to have friend that will help and teach tactics to you stay in power, the strategy Mbeki is trying to use that why he is pinning Zuma with endless charges.

I totally agree with Dr jammeh. The solution for zimbabwe shouldn't come from London(coloniser supporting its 4000 countrymen families who own 70% of the prime land of zimbabwe) and the US the pepetrator of the worst human right crimes in history. Who are they to lecture to us how black people should govern themselves. We don't need recolonization in form of sham democracy to be lead by stooges of the west(white race). Why did they support the stolen elections in kenya and Ethiopia. The west support democracy if it serves their interest and dictatorship if it serves their interest. Its all about their interest. If a leader of country serves their interest he is a good guy " blue-eyed boy" to borrow Dr jammeh's word and they shower him with praise and foreign aid (directly and thru aid agencies:their spies)but if a leader does not serve their interest they do anything to remove him from power. We African people should be careful not to fall for this bait call democracy. We should take module of China and India: former oneparty rule and later multiparty democracy but all nationalistic and good governance. Should avoid the module of Japan and Egypt both the dallying of the West serving their interest. One democracy and one dictatorship but both serving the interest of the White race(the west)

The way you look at it and mugabe is not the proper way to look at the land issue. I would imagine before the mugabe land grab that the majority of the farms he grabbed would have been bought of another farmer with cash etc in the last 10-40 years etc.I would imagine{i do not have the facts for all the farms and it would be interesting to have as it would show a lot}that the was not a great deal of farms left that had passed down that had been attained without paying for them in some way??

Now if you look at the above and then put it into context it would be like the UK saying today "right everyone that does not have a family origin in the UK of 400 years or so, must give all there land and houses back to the UK government and get lost and while you are at it we will give you a beating".

They are both using the same reasoning and there would be millions in the UK that would lose everything!

It is a very flawed way to build a country and very racist, even worse than the old colonist days because its now 2008{2000 when mugabe started the grab} and the colonist thinking has changed for the better and will continue to change till it is no more. mugabe on the other hand has gone back to the 1800's colonist way of thinking and is as racist as they have been in the old days! In 2ist century he has taken a giant leap backwoods to the 19th century way of thinking and there are far better ways he could have changed the land ownership and kept the country productive for all the Zimbabwe people. How you ask, the answer is a very simple one that would have made everyone happy as there are a number of options.

1.convert ownership of all farms to 50-99 year leases{this is done by many governments around the world}and the productive farmers would pay an annual rent and the farming remains productive, and the economy stays at a better level because of the exports and increased job grow etc.Win Win situation.

2.Setup a number of training farms using the best farmers of the areas knowledge{black or white} to educate indigenous people to the best farming practices and then when at a good level of knowledge, give them cheap loans to purchase there own farms and productive farm them.win win again

3.Use the annual rent from the farms to increase the number of jobs and food available to all Zimbabweans.

The above would work much better than the current setup did and Zimbabweans would own all the land and have the same Quality production of food they used to have before the land grab.Productive farming has been virtually wiped out in Zimbabwe because of the land grab, if the above is not done it would take 20+ years to get back to the 2000 level of productivity farming if ever.

Highly Productive farming is a skill that takes years to master as there are so many variables!

Here's a better plan:

(1) Zimbabwe's true friends step up to the plate to provide whatever assistance that they can to break the stranglehold put on this tiny country by the West. (2) Brown and Bush live up to the Lancaster agreements and remove the sanctions that the West has imposed on this tiny African country so they can stabilize their economy and purchase new farm equipment to operate the newly acquired farms. (3) Bush and Brown stop trying to implement regime change against the will of the majority of Zimbabwe's people, using for-hire stooges and threats. (4) The lying western propaganda machine just STFU!

Now that's a real plan.

heres a better plan. dLoser learns that you only have to click the 'Submit' button once.

Here's a better plan:

(1) Zimbabwe's true friends step up to the plate to provide whatever assistance that they can to break the stranglehold put on this tiny country by the West. (2) Brown and Bush live up to the Lancaster agreements and remove the sanctions that the West has imposed on this tiny African country so they can stabilize their economy and purchase new farm equipment to operate the newly acquired farms. (3) Bush and Brown stop trying to implement regime change against the will of the majority of Zimbabwe's people, using for-hire stooges and threats. (4) The lying western propaganda machine just STFU!

Now that's a real plan.

Here's a better plan:

(1) Zimbabwe's true friends step up to the plate to provide whatever assistance that they can to break the stranglehold put on this tiny country by the West. (2) Brown and Bush live up to the Lancaster agreements and remove the sanctions that the West has imposed on this tiny African country so they can stabilize their economy and purchase new farm equipment to operate the newly acquired farms. (3) Bush and Brown stop trying to implement regime change against the will of the majority of Zimbabwe's people, using for-hire stooges and threats. (4) The lying western propaganda machine just STFU!

Now that's a real plan.

Whilst, for once, you have presented a comprehensive and cohesive argument, why try to re-write the manual? It's already been written and comprehensively compiled by people and groups, over years, much closer to the coal-face and is availabe for all to see:

http://www.lands.gov.zw/landreform/landreform.htm

As the record shows:

'At independence, Zimbabwe inherited a racially skewed agricultural land ownership pattern where the white large-scale commercial farmers, consisting of less than 1% of the population occupied 45% of agricultural land. Seventy-five (75) percent of this is in the high rainfall areas of Zimbabwe, where the potential for agricultural production is high. Equally significantly, 60% of this large-scale commercial land was not merely under-utilised but wholly unutilised'.

Most shocking of all for me is that final sentence; like children who have unused toys, land owners (many of the absent landlords not even living in the country) suddenly became interested their toys (or even remembered they had the land), only when mother suggested giving them to the local charity shop so they could be better utilised.

The last sentence said it all!You need the skill and it is not there at present, sure like any place the owner is not there but like most businesses its the managers that have the skill and the owner has the money! The owner has the skill to pick the best manager with the skill to make him money and this is exactly what i suggested with the lease agreements for the people of Zimbabwe, they own it and have the skilled leasers working for them! This is the way big companies make money and would work exactly the same way for the people of Zimbabwe! It is win win for Zimbabwe. Done right with what i suggested, i can not see a better solution to a difficult situation! Zimbabwe owns the land and makes money and the farmer uses his knowledge and hard work and makes money and you create many more jobs for everyone and 100000 times for food to export and for internal use! I only wish the best for Zimbabwe people and i comment for no other reason, i have no personal stake but a morale one as a fellow person that walks this earth and believes we should all be equal!

Meant to comment on large scale ownership!This is happening around the world because productive land is getting smaller and more expensive.Productive land will never get cheaper, so big business and wealth people are going to be the ones that have the land in the future, besides the familes that pass there farms down.It is happening here in Australia and it is happening around the world. I can not afford to buy a productive farm and make a return of it with a safe guard against the environmental fluctuations.My parents sold everything to retire and bought a small 1500 acre broad acre farm in a drought proof area.This area has the best farmers and highest yields in the country, but unless you own mega acres 20,000 plus in the same area you will never be rich. We get 12 ton to the hectare unirrigated so it is the best in the world. There is no money in farming{you make a living but you also have high risk} as the old joke goes about the farmer that won millions in lotto and was asked what he was going to do now"i'll keep farming till all the money has gone". Anyone that knows anything about farming will know the above back to front! Farming is like bussiness,sport etc etc, there is only a few percent that are the best and the rest follow, you take the best away and what do the rest follow like they do the world over? There best guess, and usually there saving grace is the weather and a huge amount of luck not there skill!

West. You are what eats the bean inside. You are trying to say that our land was bought from us or our traditional chiefs??. Give evidence in the form of legal receipts to prove your point. It was easy for British farmers to start producing because they received free money and time to improve and allowed to markets. Those White Suburbs that are well developed, dou you think every luxury house there was bought?? What do you call Gordon fence (Veterinary Control Point) in some African countries?? is it not a form of suppression given a good name. You think we are stupid, aren't you??. H.E Pres Mugabe did his part. Now it is for us to carry on, with our own time, whether fast or slow. Keep talking may be you are paid for it.

You did not read it properly, i said the latter farmers not the colonist.Read it again and you will see it is accurate!

Jammeh's comments are extremely racist. Someone should remind him that his country's economy largely depends on "blue-eyed" tourists. His stupid comment will surely deter many of them.

It's no surprise that Jammeh sympathize with Mugabe. He came to power via a bloody coup to overthrow a democratically elected government in 1990 and has run his own version of sham elections to cling to power.

Zimbabwe. Woow! A real Man like HE Pres Mugabe (with others) stands up and fight for his people. He is a true Hero. It is worth fighting for. This is one rich African country the West does not want to lose to the Chinese and others' markets. It is the resources it has. However, no matter WHO enters trade agreements with Zimbabwe, Zimbabweans should sit on the resources and demand equal Shares. That way we will go forward and make "peace". I would praise Zims after their Victory.

Jammeh is right- tsvangarai can never and should never set foot in the hut of gorvenance

Afrika awake

Well, today is Friday. I would pray for the lost and confused. Am happy and conscious to draw massive energy from united Africans against these antagonistic dead-alive war mongers residing in Africa who when asked in person 101 they shy away from reality. They rather shout from afar and when we get victory they are the ones coming forward saying they were there with us. These are the Africans who cannot come together in a single moment and agree on issues that will benefit Africans. They are shallow, selfish and lack vision. We acknowledge that Zimbabweans are suffering, Why?? because the economy is/was in the hands of the minority Westerners who guzzled and occupied and continue to do so, the markets backed by their emperialists using our resources. What makes HE Pres Mugabe the way he is??? Surely this question makes them think twice.

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Your point about needed skills is right, but your farmers did not come with those skills on the farms right away. They acquired those skills over the years while making mistakes in farming. Listen, I have studied (Academically)a very useful agricultural book written by a Zimbabwean farmer who realized that commercial farmers in Zimbabwe are overgrazing their pastures in the camps. These farmers never knew how to apply grazing. They just dumped LSU/ha (Cattle) on a wrong foot over years. Now you want to tell me they have had the skills. We Africans originally even know how utilize our communal pastures better. Come to Africa and I teach you how. We benefit nature here. Now, you want to go ahead to make the World believe that a Black person in not a good manager as said on a daily basis, and that because a black person doesn't have enough (I say enough because we have skills) should not run a farm???. Are you saying we are not farmers??????? Soccer, other sports, To remind you on 03 July '08 is the final of the Williams Sisters in Tennis, and many other more skills. Given a chance and time to research we will prove ourselves. You are in for a surprise. You don't even know how to speak my Language, but if I give you a chance and an enabling environment you would be good, provided I do not give you sanctions and exploit you.

You are reading the wrong farming book!I would be happy to tell some that is needed to farm highly productively and make the soil better at the same time.I can tell you, it is not a system that is used in Zimbabwe but is used by the best farmers around the world and now more people around the world are starting to follow! Zimbabwe does not have the time at the moment to learn these skills slowly, it needs to feed itself now!

Yes bringing a sports argument into a farming one!lmao Thanks for telling me about sport but i come from the best sport country in the world per capita, and know that sportsmen get better with financial back to develop! Which is another thing i want for Zimbabwe when mugabe and regime have gone.

Clever chap. If you know how to farm so well why are all the farms in a state of disrepair, why is there no meat on the shelves, no maize, no vegetables etc. Zimbabwe was once known for its high quality beef but you ate the breeding stocks. Why do african athletes train and compete in the US or Europe (Kirsty Coventry for example). The only sports people in Africa that stay in Africa are Egypt and South Africa. Does this not tell you some thing. The Williams sisters are American, Lewis Hamilton is British and of mixed race, Tiger Woods is American and of mixed race, All decent African soccer players live and work in Europe. What is wrong with Africa? Maybe they can tell you.

What makes Zimbabwe elections invalid?? Says who?? Zimbabwe Laws says they are.

"Zimbabwe Laws" = OXYMORON!

Glyph, I expect more from you than a simple equation. Based on the comments, do you see why most of us believe that UK has lost it's ability to influence things in Southern Africa and the rest of Africa. The UK always comes across as the imperialists going after an innocent country like Zimbabwe. Volumous writing by the BBC is not helping the situation in Zimbabwe. As a results, it is increasingly hard for most Africans to accept what the UK is saying? Why has the UK, lost influence in Southern Africa, where it once ruled supremily? Why is every word from the UK on Zimbabwe (true or false) interpreted negatively?

Look further than the UK as it is now a large chunk of the world voicing there disapproval of mugabe and his regime. The reason is that good people around the world do not like to see other good people suffering! Answer me one question, if mugabe and his regime cared about there people why have they still stopped the food and medical relief and the runoff is long over, if he was worried about as he said"them trying to change votes" he should have let them start again the minute the election finished?? He has stopped all outside relief and there is going to be a major starvation crisis even if it started again today, because he lied about the maize he bought from SA and the farms have had there worst crop since before 1980! Let the world in to feed the people as they are the real Zimbabwe!!!!!!!!!

You are truly aptly named, for you spout lies like your namesake.

Food aid was never stopped. Foreign aid workers were temeporarily banned and vetted because some in their number had been spreading lies and falsehoods and telling receipients of aid that if Mugabe won the run-off their organisations might voluntarily pull out of Zimbabwe in protest. Aid workers have no place getting involved in local politics, particularly during elections.

Regardless, while the temeporary ban on foreign aid workers was in force, aid work continued. Only the sickest and most conceited of minds would translate a ban on foreign aid workers to a ban on aid and aid work.

Moreover, the ban was lifted weeks ago for those foreign workers who sailed through the vetting process.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5h_VFs94ZgUMpirNMx4ozjOLahLFg

Stop getting your selective rubbish of the net! Aid workers are still banned so the aid is not getting out! People are starving and it is getting much worse every day. Broaden you now selective reading so you actual get the facts. What has happened to the maize that mugabe said during the runoff that had been bought from SA?is it on a trip around the world as it should have arrived within a week at the very most! mugabe is using food aid against his own people, which is the lowest thing anyone can possible do. Without the aid workers the food and medical aid is not being delivered! If the international food aid groups do not deliver it will be selectively given as a blackmail tool and a pay back tool buy mugabe and his regime, this is shown to have happen.

The details are starting to all come out of the country now as it takes time for the proof to surface.mugabe is now playing a stalling game to saty in power for a little bit longer! "Selector" you are scum that you would have the people of Zimbabwe starve.Think about it and any Christian will know you will go to hell the same as mugabe!

One thing i am sure of, the people that have helped mugabe and his regime will be hunted down around the world by the people of Zimbabwe, when the tide finally turns for the good people of Zimbabwe! There will be no forgotten helpers of mugabe and his regime by the abused good people of Zimbabwe!

the west, it is a shame for you that other people exist. For it seems you would be just fine pumping your own lies and propaganda on these borads without challenge.

Yes, some aid workers are still banned but "aid" and "aid work" was NEVER banned and you will not find one single news report that says so. The reason, because it never was.

It is a shame also that you have now resorted to name-calling. But, hey, whatever floats your boat.

selector, are you called selector because you have a very selective memory?

http://allafrica.com/stories/200807071891.html http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/112115.php http://allafrica.com/stories/200806140110.html just some examples of and being banned by the ruthless Mugabe regime.... Why do you post such dumb comments and try and pass them off as fact? Why do you insult peoples intellect?

awt, you make me laugh. Seriously, I'm not known as a jolly person but you make me laugh. You post three links and not a single one supports your false claim that aid was ever banned in Zimbabwe - you really should learn the difference between "foreign aid workers" and "foreign aid"; the former were temporarily banned, the latter has never been banned. Is that too difficult for your mind to fathom and understand?

As for insulting anyone's intellect, from your post in support of aid bans that never existed nor been imposed in Zimbabwe, you don't appear to have an intellect to insult.

Selector, you really are clasping at straws here. How dumb are you? I mean really. Do you seriously think that by banning foreign aid workers, that that has no implication on the amount of foreign aid coming into the country? Do you really think that aid agencies dont supply their own aid, and thus by banning the agency, you ban the aid that these agencies provide? I really am embarrassed for you that I have just shown to everyone how stupid you are.

awt, you should know better than to tango with me by now. For clarity and for the avoidance of doubt: Aid agencies have NOT and were NOT banned in Zimbabwe. Agency workers were temporarily banned. By failing to understand the difference you expose your own ignorance.

Allow me to help you out; Aid agencies provide aid AND aid workers. Banning the workers did not, for a single second, bannish the aid - unless, of course, an agency chose yo subsequently withhold aid. You understand the difference between banning aid and withhold aid, right? One would be a sick action by the Zim government, the other would be a sick action by aid agencies in Zim. Aid was NEVER banned not by the government nor withheld by agencies. That's just the impression Western governments and media are giving you and, like a gullible fool, you've fallen for than "nonsensical" rubbish, hook, line and sinker.

Not to worry, you're not alone.

Selector, you know see mugabe and his regime are in your words "the sickest and most conceited of minds" as they did stop food aid to the people and especially to people that did not support him! Would you like me to get the current reports from the food aid groups that shows he did stop the outside aid?because inside aid is next to non existent. then would you agree that he and his regime are "Only the sickest and most conceited of minds "? I also know mugabe and his regime stole a large part of the aid and know that Zimbabwe economy is about to implode in the next few months. The good people of the world want to feed the starving and fix the there health problems, the rest of the work can follow later!

I have spoken to people from WFP who tell me that their organisation is still subject to harrasment from ZANU, They still cannot operate, the staff are harrased, food stolen, expat personel visa's extended for a short period (weeks) etc. So what you say is not true, as usual!!

jrr, in presenting your argument all you do is confirm what I've already said. "Aid workers" are under scrutiny in Zimbabwe, not "aid", itself. Really, the difference ought not to be that difficult to discern unless, perhaps, you are a conceited Western aid worker who believes aid cannot be delivered without you. Oh yes, and that other favourite of the generous, altrusitic (sic) West and their not so independent NGOs, 'if aid workers are not allowed to deliver aid, they will stop giving aid', like a bunch of schoolyard children.

If aid is ever banned in Zimbabwe, it'll be Western governments along with their NGOs and charities who ban it.

jrr, and another thing, what one Western sponsored aid workers calls, "food stolen", an African, Zimbabwean aid worker may well call, "food aid distributed regardless".

I think The Gambia leader understands the plight of the Zimbabwean people.To me what he said should be respected,and i think his comments are completely correct.

jammeh shoul be ashamed of making this kind of comments and he should watch his speeches. good leaders have positive views.

Not surprising to here idiots like yayah to endorse his role model mugabi. just as the saying goes bird of the same feathers flocks together

You mean land thieves like the British, the Americans, the Australians and ex-colonial Europeans? Them and the handful of butt-kissing African leaders they have in their pockets.

Did the people of Zimbabwe not steal the land they are on after the ran away from Shaka Zulu as late as 1800? Or do i have the recorded history wrong? Did they not run away like women from Shaka Zulu? and take land that was not theres? Its old history and does not matter, what matters is the good Zimbabwe people have there say and get rid of the Dictator mugabe and his regime masters.Then the people of Zimbabwe can choose there direction for themselves!

the west, keep lying; mmostly to yourself by the look of things.

not to himself at all. He makes a good point. The people of Zimbabwe should be able to choose their own future. Something Mugabe has stolen from them.

Hey Indie, you are not a Zimbabwean so tell us where do you hail from and why so obsessed with Zimbabwe?

Only if you tell us why you hide in New Zealand. Too scared to live in Zimbabwe? I mean... you think Mugabe is such a great leader, why not live under him? I mean Helen Clarke is a good looking girl, but surely you'd want to be lead by your hero Mugabe!

Hey Westie, we Shona did not run away from Shaka. You need to go back and do more study because you have now earned yourself one word - FAILED!

Nope but you did run from Lobengula!

AFRICANS BLOOD HAVE EVER BEIN IN THE HAND OF THE WEST I for the FIRST time agree with Mr Jammah and i don't think Jammeh's comments on Zimbabwe is to take advantage on Gambian people as others think, i do have differencies with Mr Jammeh himself, but in this particular case of Zimbabwe and president Mugabe, i believe the west is behind all the tension in Zimbabwe , how long will it take us African to learn our own history and know what we went through where we came from where we headin to and what we really want? Mr Mugabe is just a great African just like Nelson Mandela who was just few days ago go remove from the terrorist list after 90years fightin for freedom not only for Africans but to all human race, Africans should be wiser than this and start taking our own responsibilities, question of Mr Mugabe is there for his pocket is honestly out of topic even though the western media wil do what ever it cost them to give Mugabe a negative image,, I HATE SEEIN MY PEOPLE DYING LIKE FLIES.

It is not suprising to see a half-baked and Semi Illiterate so called Dr. Yayah Jammeh called the Zimbabwe Elections valid. By himself he is undemocratic and believes in dictatorial style of administrating. So what would you expect his comment to be. Jammeh is one of the Dictators Africa would not like too see. He has continually muscle the press, carried out extra judicial killings of his opponents and with a record of always oppressing the opposition and rigging elections. I know he does not believe in Democracy but rather believe in his 78 meters long Islam Rosery. It is a shame to the University that awarded him that Honourary Doctorate Degree and so I would strongly recommend he is striped off that Honour. Such important honors must be given to people who know and regard the fundamental values of life but not to a tyrant like Jammeh.

Jammeh's branding of the Zimbabwean Opposition leader as a puppet of the west explains his insipidity and backwardness. He should know that thw world needs each other, culture and style to realise harmony and tranquility.

My advice to Jammeh is this, if you think you are not a puppet of the west, then lead Osama's branch in Africa because you are a puppet of the Arab nations that gives you money that you referred to at one time in a BBC interview as "Allah's Bank". The era for you dictators is over so you better suck it up and clear off the Gambian's State house.

I do not support the president on Zimbabwe, but as an African I have a duty to comment on this matter. I am against any killing of human beings, this can not be justified. I am talking to all Africans, let us open our eyes and it is time to wake up and changed our attitutes. African we really need to change and not to be blind. We need people like Mugabe, even like President Jammeh if they did not commit any killing. What did the West do for Africa? What are they doing for Africa? What is the development of West compared to Africa? For the Africans living in the West, how much it cost us to make a phone call to Africa compared to making a call to any other western nation? How much it cost us to renew or obtain a Western VISA? How much to do the Africans pay to get a quality of Education in a western University? How much time do we struggle to be fitted in a Western nation? Do they accept us with clean hearted without racism? If I want to say all, you will even be tired to read this message. Let the West leave Africa alon. They can not decide how we should be ruled. They are the dectators. If they get Afrca at heart let them help us to have good roads, hospitals, communications, technology, economy, etc, like them. Let them do this if they could. Hay do not be blind. Wake up Africa and support leaders like president Robert Mugabe but not the puppet of the West and empty barrels making more sounds. Afrca is to be decided by Africans not the West. I wish many more Mugabes and strong anti West. Thank you.

That makes no sense at all! You don't want blacks killed by blacks. You want people of Africa to have there own say. and You want more mugabe's!

If you want more mugabe's, you can forget about having any of your other wants as it will not happen under people like mugabe, you need people like Nelson Mandela!

It costs 3-4p per minute to call Zimbabwe from the UK, its costs less to call Germany from the Uk (based on trafic i.e. there are more people calling Germany, France, the US, Australia etc than Zimbabwe) It costs $US 60 for a british PPt holder to enter Zimbabwe, $US 100 to enter Zambia, and $US 100 to get a visa to Mozabique (SA consulate price). It costs nothing for a South African to enter the UK and vise versa (this is probably because there are not thousands of South Africans fleeing their country). Hope this helps you!

If they get Afrca at heart let them help us to have good roads, hospitals, communications, technology, economy, etc, like them. Well you had tham all, Hospitals, roads etc. but what did Mugabe do with them. Its called good management - obviuosly Mugabe and others did not have this skill. Kleptomania is the only skill they seem to have.

Western countries want Mugabe ousted from power for two reasons. First, Mugabe sent his military to DR Congo in the 1990's to halt the invasion and occupation of DR Congo by the armies of Rwanda, Burundi, and Uganda. The invasion was financially and militarily sponsored by the USA and UK with the aim of effecting a regime change in DR Congo so that western countries would exploit (loot) the natural resources of DR Congo at will. Up until the time of the invasion, Zimbabwe had been buying its jet fighters from England, with an agreement that the sellers of those jet fighters would be supplying the jets' spare parts to Zimbabwe should Zimbabwe need any spare parts. Surprisingly, after Zimbabwe's military intervention to DR Congo, UK passed a bill that declared it illegal for any firm to sell military equipment, including jet fighters' spare parts, to Zimbabwe. In response, Mugabe turned to China, from whence he began to buy military equipment.

Second, the redistribution of the land, which had illegally been acquired and owned by white farmers for years, to Black Zimbabweans is, in the western view, a crime that Mugabe should not have committed and for which he cannot be forgiven. Hence the USA and UK's endeavour to mobilize the world, including the UN, the European Union, the African Union, and individual nations against Mugabe. However, African leaders know the true motives behind this worldwide mobilization by the USA and UK. Accordingly, the African Union's resolution on Zimbabwe is far from being an endorsement of the joint stand of the USA, UK, and their Western allies on Mugabe's Zimbabwe. And as long as Mugabe has the trust and support of the African people and African governments, Mugabe will not hesitate to tell the Western world “go to hang, and hang a thousand times”.

If you keep walking with closed eyes, you will hit something eventually! Open you eyes and see mugabe is killing and starving his own people, not matter what anyone else is doing he is killing his own people.

And we hope those Mugabe is telling to hang will hand him his departure papers and HANG HIM.

africa no longer need the gun and bible along side the quran.

This gambian is revising history. The reason the previous white regime leaders are free and at large was a political decision taken for the sake of unity, racial harmony, and with a view to looking forward to the future instead of dwelling on the past. Unfortunately for these charlatan African leaders they have no integrity; they are used to changing the rules wily nily to fit their whims, especially when their illegitimate power is challenged. As in this instance Mugabe has conveniently forgotten that he used a reconcialory approach to his ascendency to power, now that that power is no longer legitimate, and has been taken away from him by Zimbabwean citizens. As for Museveni blaming the opposition for being used by foreign interests: he has no credibility on this. Museveni himself shot to power in Kampala using foreign help. Uganda was "liberated" from the Idi Amin tyranny using foreign help. This notion that foreign help is necessarily bad help because its foreign has no rational because it is based on irrational fear mongering by failed politicians. Apparently the only time the west and western help is bad is when it is helping promote democracy by challenging illegitimate and failed regimes. Mugabe ruined Zimbabwe. To blame it on the west is childish and is to accept defeat and helplessness and playing victim. Mugabe, Zimbabwe or Africa should not be in the business of playing the victim. It is self-defeating and pathetic to say the least for leaders who have been electorially rejected by their own people.