Author: onesoulzim1
Wed Jul 23 08:38:36 2008

Pathetic assessment, it is very obvious that the divide and rule tactic from the UK-EU/US is again failing decimally. Zimbabweans always leave in brotherly and sisterly culture, the west forced us to rebel against each other through economic sanctions, we were enticed to revolt against gvt and we are showing the world what we really stand for regardless of our different political opinions. Can the west not learn for God’s sake what it means to be Zimbabwean? Begrudged we are for taking land and mineral resources from brutal colonisers, business from the unthankful west must not continue to thrive in Zimbabwe.

Author: awt_independent
Wed Jul 23 10:06:09 2008

This "brotherly and sisterly culture"? What a joke! Tell that to the MDC supporters beaten, murdered and tortured by mugabe for wanting to tick the wrong box! Wake up and see what is actually going on my friend!

Author: chiki
Wed Jul 23 11:04:56 2008

Are you a Zimbabwean? you surerly surprise me. Supporting this negative reporting is insane. Whether so many people died, does this mean we should continue to fight one another. What we need is peace. A slogan is just a slogan... a slogan. Peaople were fighting, but fighting for what? when you see people shaking hands it means truce and peace. Thats what we all need lets not turn ourselves into polititians and lets leave politics to polititians. You and me should just be you and me as Zimbabweans. l believe tjis time around its you who needs to wake up. Morgan already has.

Author: awt_independent
Fri Jul 25 11:35:57 2008

The problem is that this result, Mugabe keeping the presidency through mass intimidation and murder of voters, sets a dangerous precedent for future elections in Zimbabwe and africa. "Hey... I might lose the next election. Lets go beat up and murder heaps of opposition supporters so they vote for us and we win - look at Mugabe - he did it and the AU said nothing, so we will get away with it"

This is where the AU needs to step in and take a stand and say this kind of behaviour should not be tolerated, bring in peace keepers to monitor a new free and fair election.

Its disgusting that Mugabe can get away with this kind of behaviour, and that people like you condone it.

Mugabe has just beaten and murdered his way into the presidency position.

You say its ok, lets shake hands and move forwards. Unfortunately for you my friend, people have long memories.

Author: turnex
Wed Jul 23 10:42:55 2008

something about a pot and kettle come to mind reading this rambling tripe from onesoul..rather depressing that these people believe their own tripe. One thing for sure..I will stay put in my evil racist western country rather than go back to rub shoulders with thickos like this!!! With idiots like this abound zimbabwe will never be rebuilt!!!! thank god for the western nations!!!!

Author: Afrocentric
Wed Jul 23 13:21:33 2008

The talks haven't taken off and the negative are predicting gloom and doom. I am a western based Zimbabwean and I welcome dialogue. Dialogue had to take place in 1979 for a new Zimbabwe to be born. Recently Kibaki and Odinga had to talk for sanity to prevail in Kenya. Negative attitudes and prophets of doom are what we do not need at this stage. A good number of us want to go back to rebuild Zimbabwe. I will be the first to say please don't water down a development we have all wanted to see take place for the sake of progress. Leave the Zimbabwean leaders / politicians to come up with a Zimbabwean grown solution. Lets leave our analysis for after the talks. Good thing they will not be negotiating through the media.

Author: prem
Wed Jul 23 14:24:04 2008

Hey, hey! Stop this nonsense!!

You mean as a Zimbabwean, you would enjoy witnessing Mugabe cronies to kill, maim and rape your wife, daughters, sisters and yet you go shake hands with him to talk peace?? Bloodstained Mugabe still has on his side the Commissioner of police and the chiefs of the Army units that carry horrendous acts of turture on behalf of the hero turned monster.

Whether Zimbabwea, African or any other human being, we cannot condone killing, maiming and raping anywhere! MDCs have signed under duress.

Mugabe and cronies should be dragged before an international crime tribunal. he should immediately step down and thus allow true sons and daughters of Zimbabwe to make a fresh start at rebuilding the country.

Why Mugabe is still allowed as President? What can he do now that he could not do in the past 28 years?

Let's not be fooled. Mbeki wants to save a hero turned murderous and who has ruined the country. Why 5 million of Zimbabweans have sought refuge in South Africa?

Are you one of Mugabe's cronies benefitting from the crumbs falling off the table?

Justice should be seen being carried out even handed in Zimbabwe as much as in any other country. There should be no dilly dallying. Otherwise, we would be encouraging dictators to emerge in our other countries turning Africa into a hell.

God save the innocents and empower the commoner to punish the tyrant.

Author: chiki
Wed Jul 23 14:35:10 2008

its a good thing you are not a polititian, many souls will be lost under your leadership. Preach love not hate no wonder you are not part of the negotiating team.

Author: stuartmatomola
Wed Jul 23 14:25:26 2008

i m replying tothe guy who wrote living like brother and sister in zim are having a joke or work for zanu pf mugabe killed zimbabwe u idiot im i black ive never been racially abused by a white zimbabwean we lived side by side until mugabe came between us with desparate policies inever use to quee for food the bigest note was 50 dollars there was love in zimbabwe industries were growing we were food basket all that is gone what u talking about get yah senses together we dont need power sharing with mugabe or zanu thy should go to hague is he trying to work a imnuity this should be for the people who voted cahange anything less is betrayal

stuart mathe

Author: chiki
Wed Jul 23 14:52:03 2008

stuart cool down when you are angry like that your actual sense doesn't come out. What the hell are you talking about.Who signed the $50.00 note? was it signed by a white man?l believe a black governor signed the note. All was well until we took back what belonged to us.Do you call that a crime? Its very fortunate you never encountered the evil dids of a white man. This though does not mean all whites are good people there are some just a bad as the devil himself, but we lived with them like brothers and sisters for over 20yrs. People should sit down and talk. In every war there is seize fire or submission this hepls in rebuilding. Its unfortunate there is little that you guys can do because peace loving Zimbabweans are at the table negotiating. Toughluck Stuu.

Author: Observer
Wed Jul 23 21:40:25 2008

A couple of points here onesoul:

"the west forced us to rebel against each other through economic sanctions"

Well two points on this one ..... 1) will you get it into your head that "The West" didn't do anything, the governments imposed the sanctions. 2) The economic sanctions were not imposed against Zimbabwe, but were targetted against approximately 130 ZANU-PF members from the government, anything else that the Herald has told you is propaganda straight from Mugabe's pen.

"we are showing the world what we really stand for regardless of our different political opinions."

That remains to be seen, I still remember the PF-ZAPU situation ..... didn't exactly work out well did it?

"Begrudged we are for taking land and mineral resources from brutal colonisers, business from the unthankful west must not continue to thrive in Zimbabwe."

Not by me and many many others you're not, what I do resent however is the way in which it was done ..... the shortsighted replacements of industrialists and farmers with no switchover or training period that has in itself contributed the most to the downfall of the Zimbabwean economy. You still claim the west is the enemy, but you need to look far closer to home to find Zimbabwes real enemies, the ones that have destroyed Zimbabwe from within.

Author: buddhamate
Wed Jul 23 14:54:08 2008

Onesoul and all, if you think all the rat politicians (no offence to the rat)and so called leaders have got anybody's interest at heart you had better think twice.What the heck was the G8 summit all about? Nothin' they're as bad as the rest.Just a big smoke screen set up for the media so as to feed the chickens.A whole lot of hype has been going on all over to get people ganging up and beating on each other creating diversions whilst the bastards sell you up right under your nose.The world needs a new ethic and it should start right here in this forum.Greed and corruption out and in with compassion and humanity to start.

Author: Phiri
Thu Jul 24 00:17:44 2008

IRIN, this so-called "UN" NGO is one those organisation that are spying for the western world in southern Africa. Most of their articles are bootleged from African writers, without permission or credit. Mr. Oliver who lives in Botswana is their chief Propaganda officer.

IT IS NOT BAD THAT ZIMBABWEANS ARE SKEPTICAL ABOUT THIS AGREEMENT! IT IS HEALTH AND POSITIVE, THAT ZIMBABWEANS ARE EVALUATING WHAT THEY SEE..WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT!!

IRIN IS VERY GOOD AT EXAGERATTED STATICS ON ZIMBABWE, MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN PROVED WRONG. ONCE PROPAGANDIST SAID THERE WERE 3 - 5 MILLION ZIMBABWEANS IN SOUTH AFRICA...A STUDY SHOWED JUST ABOUT A MILLION. BE VERY VERY CAREFUL ABOUT STATISTICS ON ZIMBABWE...THEY ARE THE WEAPON OF PROPAGANDA...AND A LOT OF MR. OLIVER PURE BRED PROPAGANDA!

Author: me!
Thu Jul 24 14:28:12 2008

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Author: awt_independent
Fri Jul 25 11:40:42 2008

Well its only 1000000 people that have fled. Thats not so bad now is it. haha. You're a joke!




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