It is amazing to find that, with all this learning that zimbabweans have and indeed africans across the continent, we black africans are still craving to be enslaved all over again. One wonders how any body and indeed the so called MDC could believe that Britain, America and their european allies, really have an interest to care for zimbabweans.

The same have enslaved zimbabweans for 100 years, and only after a bloody liberation struggle, zimbabwe was freed, and I wonder if there is not even one person in the MDC who ever heard about the history of Rhodesia.

Its amazing, true, money is at play here, other wise no normal minded person would fall to any dirty tricks by Britain and America at this time.

Besides who told Africans that they are only human enough when the British and Americans, call them europeans if you want are administering them. Shame on the MDC, shame... Zimbabwe is not for sale, people just do not know Europeans will do anything to recolonise Zimbabwe, and we go for another 100 years, before another struggle starts.

Enough is enough, to make Tsvangirayi a Prime Minister equals to declaring the dead Rhodes a hero again.

Zimbabwe will never be a colony again.

envroconnect,your take on things in Zimbabwe is interesting. I think it is also flawed. But given that you sound like you come from W. Africa, it is note worthy how issues are playing out in the eyes of W. Africa which has very little white population compared to Southern Africa.

I have always felt that the white minorities (ex-Rhodesians etc) are over represented on this website in propoportion of black Africans. The views expressed are typically called African consensus, while this may not be the case. I'm therefore not surprised when Mugabe is welcomed in other parts of Africa (a significant part!).

To gauge African sentiments to Mugabe by westerners has always been the most difficult thing. Reading the comments on Zimbabwe, one can make very wrong conclusion that Africa blames all the problems in Zimbabwe on Mugabe.

This is real not about whether Mugabe is right or wrong, but to gauge sentiments. You are misguided by your comments because I strongly believe Mugabe is on the wrong path. There are other capable people in Zimbabwe who can be leaders or President...Such as Tsvangirai, Dr. Makoni, Dr. Mumtabara, Professor Ncube and others. The problem with Tsvangirai is that he has not sold his messege to the elite, even though the suffering poor understand him.

Your comments are welcome, please continue to participate!

Achimwene aPhiri, my brother, the problem with my good man Morgan Tsvangirai is that he has failed to spell out his vision of Gt Zim. He talks incessantly of removing Mugabe from poweras though that is the be all. Any thinking perso can see a lot of unanswered questions. He is so desperate to become leader of government because it only from this position he can deliver to his sponsors. How can any one call for sanctions against his own country??? He hoped that when the peaceful people of Gt Zim suffer and see their standards of living go down, they would rise up against the ZANUpf administration. Dont tell me that he did not ask for sanctions, l was present on three occasions when he addressed a members ONLY meetings of SABA in London when the sanctions issues were discused. I was then a member of the Southern Africa business association, SABA, whose members include the Queens bankers CASANOVE, Anglo-America and many other major players in job creation in the region. Lets hear from the MDC what programmes and visions they have for ZImbabwe besides shouting anti RMG slogans. After Mugabe then what???

Akafunboy, have you figured out that the first and second world wars were fought by more than 2 countries yet? Why dont you just admit you were wrong? Theres lots of unanswered questions here by you also. You seem to ignor a lot of posts. Why do you support and condone a leader that has so obviously beaten and murdered his own people to keep power?

Come now Indie, same old nonsense from you. Why don't you just pull your head in! You are not a Zimbabwean and your views are of a racist nature - Go and help Somalia and Sudan.

Welcome back Kube. You ok mate, need a blanket? You must be really suffering in the New Zealand winter. When have I ever said anything racist? How is caring for the people of Zimbabwe that have been beaten raped and murdered by your hero Mugabe racist? You need to pull your head in and stop supporting a genocidal murdered who kills to keep power.

awt...lets celebrate our racism. If being racist means you are clever enough to see through mugabe's thuggery then I am a fully fledged racist. I'd rather be a racist than believe mugabe is an angel..anyday!!!!

I'm with you there turnex!

Thanks for your kindest response, for the record I am very Zimbabwean and for your information been one of those calling themselves MDC right from the beginning. You talk about Tsvangirayi failing to sell his message to the people, that must be true, because he has no message to sell, as an MDC we have for a long time been selling the British and American message of hate against our own people, this is true, if only the MDC was objectively Zimbabwean, The MDC would have been ruling by now. Believe this, why does the British and Americans know every bit of what happens in Zimbabwe minutes later before any one in Zimbabwe knows.

Besides there are more opposition parties in zimbabwe, and what makes the MDC special to Americans and british, because the MDC is serving their interests. I mentioned and I repeat again, if Tsvangirayi is made Executive Prime Minister, then it will only be a matter of time, Zimbabweans will be regretting because as much as you say he has failed to sell his message to Zimbabweans, he will not be able to defend the zimbabweans from the abuse of the british and Americans.

Under an MDC government, Zimbabweans will be nothing but Slaves in waiting in their own country. Thanks for your note once more.

TO Mugabe fans, I just want to refer them to one posting in the Zimbabwe Times by The Pagan Philosopher on August 16th, 2008 12:51 pm quote, Geroge bachinche,just one question; in your heart (assuming you have one, not just the pump) do you really believe that the murder of Zimbabweans by Mugabe and his henchmen, the rape of our women and girls by his militia , the looting of State resources by everyone from Chinotimba to Gono, the obliteration of all hope from the youth of Zimbabwe, the very destruction of the Zimbabwe state are what we all wished for when we fought against Smith? Oppression is oppression, we do not want to be oppressed by a black tyrant! unquote.

Do Mugabe fans have a heart? Yea! no doubt, that of a devil! How can we instill human feelings in them?

Incredible: you anchor your boat in the dock of a philosopher? Where is the evidence that proves, under any standard of proof, that Mugabe is a "murderer"? Produce the evidence, and make it "competent evidence," if you don't mind. By the way, in the interest of full disclosure, I am a West African; accordingly, I am an not a Zimbabwean.

stick to trying to solve the poverty of west africa before sticking your big nose in zimbawean affairs dick...you dont know jack about what happened to the ndebele peoples and it is an insult to paint mugabe as a saint when he is a murdering thuig!!

Well said there brother - we do not want to be slaves again! People like mr independent (indie) just dont get it! Nothing good will come out of him. It's just bad,bad,bad. How sad,sad,sad!

I respect the authr of this article. the best description of what is happening in Africa.It is so sad.Their primary purpose was to get raw materials and believe me you they came up with more subtle ways of doing it because they had noticed that the indegenous people were providing resistance to being treated as mere chattels in their own lands. They devised an even better plan, to indoctrinate us according to their standards and that standard was termed neoliberalism.

Then started preparing us into being able to produce and serve their purpose.Preparing us through a universal standard of education an hence we threw away our tradition and cultures into the dustbins of history.Now we have children who are raised not being able to converse in their mother tongue.What a shame to Africa.We are swept away by being educated and driving expensive cars and owning posh housed but we fail to be baobab trees for our people, We fail to educate each other, we fail to put our interests first and rather we have the scarcity mentality as seen in South Africa where brother fights against brother.The xenophobic attacks.When people say the Situation in Zimbabwe is because of Bob.what shit is that.Gono Came in and he tried his best.Banks were now speculating and investing in shady deals.Trust bank was investing in Bricks and buying cars which they would sell off after a month.In his maiden speech he prioritised Medicine and Education.This man practically availed money to a lot of students who are out of the country.They got money for fees through subsidised exchange rates which their own parents could not have afforded from the black market.these are the same people who go out and preach shit about Gono`s children being deported and being corrupt.That money should have gone to feeding the starving people of Zimbabwe.Im disappointed by such people.These same people should actually have been bonded and they should have pledged to go back and build that country.It is home and whether we like it or not the old man is right and he has said to these people treat us like equals.For nine years Zimbabwe has been a cash economy.no lines of credit or balance of payment form multi lateral institutions like IMF,WORLB BANK and even our own Africa development bank.We have been strangulated and the same Morgan that we are saying should get into power is the same person who has been raunting about sanctions to hurt the ordinary person not BOB.If he truly cared about his people he would have gone an extra mile to find channels to talk to Bob.

The same person who was funded by Ian Smith to the tune of 400 000USD to effect a regime change.I am disappointed and if this man was my father i would disown him.People even start bringing up the things of yester year, yes wounds are there but as a nation we signed and agreed on a unity accord to move forward as one people.Joshua Nkomo,John Nkomo,Stephen Nkomo,Joseph Msika and others came together and moved forward as a nation.Our Zimbabwe was built from that unity accord.Lets move forward as a nation and never forget where we are coming from for we have vultures who are waiting to devour us.

Once again commercial farming is not a walk in the park.Its not about having a farm and all else falls into place.Our farming had 80%of it being driven by foreign direct investment.They cut off ties, the moment that we embarked on the redistribut in programme.Some ask why it took so long to do it.Why did bob embark on it after 19yrs of independence.My answer is he was a man of his word because he kept his part of the bargain to honour the lancaster agreement.He was a patient man.He was a principled man and they thought that by renerging on it Zim would let it go down like that.Never ever.I have a history, i have roots and those roots are in Zimbabwe.I am free, i am educated,i now know kuti kuseri kwesadza kunewusavi(he who has nothing shall one day live in plenty).All this is because of my freedom, because of Zimbabwe, because of Bob and other liberation heroes.I respect that man.I would rather die a pauper than to be treated like a slave/mere chattel in my own land.these are called principles.The etiquette, the old man exudes and the gains Zimbabwe got under his tutelage.The highest number of dams in the world and in Africa,the best education system in Southern Africa and third best in Africa.The biggest auction floors in the world,country with the lowest number of slums and better housing conditions for its people according to United Nationd.lets give him due respect.

Change we want but that change should come from within and without any intereference from the west.that is all we cry for.Zimbabwe is free and will never be a colony again.That stands.All those who say we have been brainwashed.Its fine and let it be.Long live comrade bob,

I wld suggest to people to read dinner with Mugabe, Thabo Mbeki and the battle and the soul of the ANC and also A dream deferred(thabo Mbeki)You will definitely find those three books interesting.The african renaissance and believe me you, no matter what happens Thabo will never abandon Bob and he has the people of Zimbabwe at heart.it shall be well.

"I respect the authr of this article. the best description of what is happening in Africa.It is so sad.Their primary purpose was to get raw materials and believe me you they came up with more subtle ways of doing it because they had noticed that the indegenous people were providing resistance to being treated as mere chattels in their own lands. They devised an even better plan, to indoctrinate us ..."

Yet another great post by a Zimbabwean patriot.

"I respect the authr of this article. the best description of what is happening in Africa...."

That makes three of us!!!

Kube... and you wont become slaves again. Believing that the west wants to make you slaves just shows how dumb you are. I mean seriously, how deluded are you!

The author Owei Lakemfa of the Vanguard is as lunatic as Mugabe in his flawed analysis of the desperate situation in Zimbabwe.

Does he know that his own government has given sanctuary to some 25 white Zimbabwean farmers to relocate there on large tracts of land. They are now producing maize, tapioca, rice, etc for the local market. Thanks God, he did not say the West was thus plotting against Nigeria!

He has better to raise awareness why Nigeria still import all of its distilled petrol from the West?

It is too selfish for him to keep quiet while Nigeria is dealing with the IMF and the WB and come forward to congratulate lunatic Mugabe to refuse to deal with these financial institutions?

Encouraging Zimbabwe not to deal with the IMF and the WB while keeping mum on the fruits Nigeria is reaping while doing business with the same institutions? We do not need such hypocrite journalism?

We need activist journalists who care to empower people with freedom, justice and truth. Come on with investigative journalism, which should help you dig out the thousands of corpses Mugabe has buried!

Don't write nonsense in complete disrespect of millions of bleeding Zimbabweans!

Prem, the stories regarding the 25 white Zimbabwean farmers in Nigeria and their success is largely Anglo British Propaganda. The white Zimbabwean farmers have not been successful else where, except Zimbabwe. I have personnel read what they themselves report, namely:

1) In Nigeria they could not get loans from local banks, and they have been whinning every single day how bad things are in Nigeria.

2) In Zambia, they complained that labor costs were very high..and that the Kwancha was over-valued. Most of them went Bankrupty.

3) Mozambique simply refused to provide the assistance and most are struggling.

4) Botswana...ahaa..anglo-bastion said no white Zimbabwean wanted.

Success story, absolutely not........They are still whining around and now sueing the Zimbabwean Gov't in the SADc court in Namibia. They want to return to "evil Mugabe" rather than farmer in other parts of Africa.....

Achimwene aPhiri, you get your heaps and loads of trash from the herald. With all the censorship of all media in Zimbabwe, everyone knows the tripe you goons are fed with. So don't have any hope of us believing any of the hogwash you say.

Krsj120, the failure of white Zimbabwe farmers and their stories come from the BBC, Times of Zambia, Mozambique papers, and Vanguad in Nigeria. It is a fairly well documented failure to succeed in another country.

This is not new, some white south Africans have experienced similar failure in New Zealand, Australia, UK, Israel etc.

The spoil system for whites in Botswana, South Africa..simply does not exists elsewhere!

I listened to the documentary on BBC4 some months ago and yes the farmers in nigeria were struggling to secure loans but they did secure them in the end and the dairy farm is up and thriving. They interviewed the Nigerian Agri minister and he basically said zimbabwe's loss was nigeria's gain. Oh, and despite these poor white farmers living in literally corrugated metal shacks one thing they were sure about was this...THEY WERE NOT EVER GOING TO RETURN TO ZIMBABWE!!! So not really sure which white rhodie farmers you friends with who have been telling you they cant wait to return to zimbabwe. it is a case of once bitten..twice shy! And I think in yours and all the other oafs' cases on here it is a case of shameless envy!!

Turnex, I'm impressed that you have some "brain". I had given up on you as unredeemable and brain dead fellow Zimbabwean or fellow Rhodesian! I do not get my information from the Herald only, but I do read other sources of information on Zimbabwe as well. I'm no Mugabe's fool. I'm not convinced that Zimbabwean white farmers are doing well in Nigeria even now. The reason being theft and high cost of farming in Nigeria. The weather there is not suitable for white farmers as well(extremely hot).

You mentioned the BBC, but also Times of Zambia (independent newspaper) clearly said Zimbabwe farmers were not doing well. They asked a lot of resources from the Zambian gov't, that local Zambians protested and the program had to be stopped. There were bankrupcies in Zambia by Zimbabwean white farmers. Mozambique gave up a similar program by Zambia. Success stories about white Zimbabwean farmers outside Zimbabwe are so exagerated and a lot of anglo white propaganda!

I do also, like most people, know that Land reform in Zim, was one of the many mistakes made by Mugabe and zanu-pf. I also think white farmers could have helped the process. Like what white South African farmers did. They basically were proactive and whenever possible helped new black farmers. It is also true that land issues in South Africa, if not handled well or because of lack of cooperation from white farmers, could be a time bomb ready to explod..

Jesus Christ. Do i have to slap some sense into you people. im not saying morgan tsangirai is better than mugabe, in fact i see them both as the same- Incompetent and selfish. But i wanna ask a simple question to my Zimbabwean patriots. How rich are you guys? Because no poor person would want mugabe in power in that country and by the way im a Nigerian. I hate the leaders in my country and they all seem to eerily resemble mugabe- a stupid ruling class bent on suppressing and exploiting the peasant class. There needs to be a revolution in Africa. Even before capitalism became eminent in Europe it went through a series of revolutions. Even Russia had a revolution and became a superpower. Zimbabweans rise up and challenge the ruling class. in the great words of lenin: "peace,land and bread".

Chubiadjoh, are you stupid or what? How can you even suggest that defenseless "peasants" revolt against Mugabe who is not only loaded with guns but has an army of blood-thirsty devils who are already murdering them? Why don't you go first and revolt against your government using sticks and stones against their guns and see how far you get. Your advocating of a revolt through violence is bad. Defeating Mugabe through the courts of law - now you are talking.

Dude i said revolt. I never violent revolt. Besides youre not helping the zimbabweans by saying they cant change their OWN government. If they use votes it wont work because Mugabe will simply rig them. Now if they launch a peaceful protest or even revolt against mugabe things wont turn out fine immediately and their will be bloodshed but its worth it because he will kill the country anyways.

Chubiadejoh, so what revolt have you successfully led in Nigeria against your leaders of government that you say you hate so much that Zimbabweans can emulate? Please tell. I never said or implied that the Zimbabweans people cannot change their government - on the contrary. Why do you think Mugabe has murdered so many? Because they have voiced their God-given rights to freedom and change. Mass blood-shed is not always the way if there are other peaceful avenues that can be tried first as is the case in Zimbabwe right now. Do you know how much strength and restraint it has taken the MDC opposition, leader and its people, not to go on an all out retaliation spree of killing? I have great admiration for Mr Tsvangirai for not grappling for power and rushing to a civil war at the expense of the people. All those who died in Zimbabwe during the liberation struggle, how many people remember them except once a year when Mugabe goes to Heroes Acre to crow at their grave sites, happy to be the one who continues the legacy of murdering Zimbabweans after the racist regime. If those heroes who died knew that Mugabe would turn around and kill their people, how many of them do you think would have volunteered to suffer in the bush just to give Mugabe that mandate? None. In Zimbabwe it is only the people who lost their loved ones who really hurt. Thank goodness there are also those who are trying to make things better. It is only a matter of time before the Zimbabwean butcher Mugabe is nabbed. I hope he remembers that every bolus of sadza that he rolls and puts in his toothless mouth may be his last.

ok i agree with you on this one. But if the people "peacefully" protest they will still get killed. The only option to dealing with a dictator is to show him his own iron FIST. A revolution can be peaceful you know, after all you said it yourself, tsangirai is doing so "peacefully" but let's be honest, IT WONT WORK OVERTIME. A riot here and tehre will force mugabe to leave the country and create a vacuum that can be replaced with democracy. After all he cant kill "ALL" of zimbabwe can he? i mean let's be realistic here.

Chubiadejoh, Mugabe does not have blood in his veins. He has venom. A riot would excite and give him a great rush and an excuse to mow down the defenseless people. Keep in mind, there is no law in Zimbabwe. The so-called judges have all been bribed and eat out of his hand. Mugabe is the judge, jury and killer of that country. He makes laws to suit himself, and is god unto himself so even if he mowed thousands of people at one time , who is to say what. Now it is only in the hands of the outraged and aggrieved Zimbabweans that can bring Mugabe from his high loft to reality. Those who are very versed in law, suggest that even if Mugabe remains in power(which would be preferred) he has made his bed and he will lie in it. I think if the people remain calm, then his crimes against them will continue to be inexcusable and thus cause his demise.