Author: rafil
Thu Aug 28 17:42:04 2008

This is racism at work,unjustifiable treatment of a former president who voluntarily stepped down for peace to reign being racially humiliated like this is scornful and not surprising, judging by our knowledge of lack of humanity in these alien race that,s continually doing all they can to cast black people in bad light.These barbaric and hate filled set of people who are trying to make us (blacks) believe that this resentful behaviour will be accepted by us Africans,we will never accept it.Ironically,Charles taylor is not a bigger criminal than racist rhodesian smith,what was done to him? nothing,or is he (Taylor) worse than bush,blair,howard, who have collectively plunged countries into wars they don,t know when will end, in the process killing hundreds of thousands of innocents.Taylor should be investigated and prosecuted for his crimes,but humiliating him in this way (CHAINED AROUND THE WAIST)like he,s capable of overpowering all around him calls for questions.Your racist depiction of black people will not go unanswered,we will continually call you to order.It,s common knowledge that racism is a virus that affects a lot of caucausians and the most painful aspect is that it,s sometimes incurable and hard to treat amongst the hard core sufferers,pity.Africans should protest this slave like treatment of Charles Taylor,even, why can,t he be tried on African soil in either sierra Leone or Liberia? we want answers.

Author: alieugn
Thu Aug 28 19:38:26 2008

"In the history of religion", it is believed that "when you do good, the good will follow you and when you the bad, the bad will follow you" - So if Charles Taylor could have think of this ealier, he could have not led the team of brutality, killing and committing human right abuses on the innocent civilians that are connected to anyhow of the past governments in Liberia and Sierra Leone. He tortured and killing. So, if he is been chained, what is wrong with that? Man must live and life must go on. Mr Taylor, enjoy your stay at The Hague.

Author: chappie
Fri Aug 29 15:50:48 2008

Rafil, don't say WE, because I, personally, with millions of other Liberians, don't give a damn what happens to Taylor. Taylor killed hundred of thousands of people in the most brutal and inhumane ways and violently catapulted Liberia back into the Stone Ages, so you have to give me more evidents of racism than chains around his neck in The Hague to prove your case. In fact, Charles Taylor a trial is too decent for him, he should have been trialed like he trialed thousands of Liberia: two questions at gun point and the answers having nothing to do with whether he lives or dies, cause his would had been decided.

Author: jallohlaw
Sat Aug 30 11:26:22 2008

Have you met or communicated with "millions" of humans in the territory of Liberia. (I reassert my contention that Liberia IS NOT A NATION.)

Even if, in the STATISTICALLY unlikely event that you have, how do you know that they are not fibbing, and if you assert they ARE not, produce the evidentiary basis of your position.

Moreover, are you one of those who KNOW that there are 'races'? If so, then produce the evidence. And, please do not throw Webster at me, as is your HABITUS, BECAUSE THIS TIME, I'LL GO TO THE MAT WITH YOU, GIVEN THE AMPLE PASS I GAVE YOU THE LAST TIME.

Author: jallohlaw
Sat Aug 30 11:09:18 2008

Do you KNOW that there are 'races'? You must adopt on the ground of consistency, that theoretical conjecture, otherwise you would not hurl the charge of 'racism' at anyone.

Now, if you KNOW that there are 'races,' then produce the evidence that there are such phenomena among human beings?

I await your seasonable and well-argued response.

Author: chappie
Sat Aug 30 21:30:12 2008

Jallohlaw, Sir, I don't have my own definition of race, once again, why reinvent the wheel? Why should I have my own definition of a race when there is generally accepted definition that I personally don't have any reason to refute? As far as me asking you what is YOUR definition of a country or nation are, I give up, I have given you enough time to give me those definitions to no avail. So, I've given up.

Author: jallohlaw
Sun Aug 31 00:17:49 2008

There you go again! Your rhetorical topos of "reinventing the wheel" has run out of steam. I suppose that for you everything has been 'invented.' Silly: we have here a rustic version of Fukuyama's irrational theory of the "end of history," and, before him, the dense and xenophobic student of Hegel, Karl Marx.

It is worth noting that in a public forum, such as allafrica.com, either you put up or shut up.

The substantive issue is 'race.' I asked you for a definition, and you riposte from the valley of naivete that the definition of race will constitute "reinventing the wheel."

Instead of confesing your transparent ignorance, you wrap yourself in the rhetorical trope of 'familiarity' and 'obviousness,' when even the least qualified expert on the problematic of race KNOWS that it is a contestable 'concept.' Accordingly, it is apotheosis of nonsense to unreflexively hang your intellectual hat on the wobbly nail of "general acceptance," a cop out unsurpassable.

On my thesis of the territoriality of African states and its contrastive concept of "a nation state," since I AM REASONABLEY SATISFIED that I have tendered rigorous methodical definitions in the explication and extensions of the theory to Sierra Leone and the territory of Liberia, which is not a nation, I am, sadly, constrained to note that the most astute and caring herdsman or woman can drag a goat to the greenest of pasture, but force it to eat, he or she cannot.

I await your next blunder.

Author: chappie
Sun Aug 31 02:30:21 2008

Well, here it goes, I'm completely satisfied with the definitions of all the words and ideas that I have encounter thus far in these web postings and I have no reason, are your ready for this, to reinvent the wheel. You on the other hand, are willing to contest all the words and phrases you come across. I guess that's what makes different. I agree that I'm the goat taken to a stream that refuses to drink. There is, however, one problem, what your have lead me to is not a free flowing stream, but a muddy puddle; forgive if I rather die of thirst than drink from a disease infested puddle.

Author: jallohlaw
Sun Aug 31 12:50:10 2008

Mister, you voluntarily and understandingly call yourself a goat? Very well, a goat you are then.

Incredible: wonders abound even in the age of demytholization, the age of disenchantement, the age of cynicism boundless. Man becomes goat. That's simply enchanting, if not 'miraculous.'

Ueber 'miraculous' is the nauseating factum that this self-dehumanization surged on the worldwide web: wonders to the nth power. Man becomes goat.

Singularly revelatory, but true, is the sordid fact (for the goats) that no goat has the cognitive endowment of the least endowed human.

Stay with me awhile: wasn't this 'goat' who earlier self-destructively and gratuitously baptized 'itself' "the Stalker of 'jallohlaw' at allafrica.com"? Affirmative, the answer must be.

And, is this not 'the goat,' who continuously and unreflexively wrapped himself in the cloth a critic of sentences: a philologist? "Run on sentences," man turned ooat thundered a zillion times; a zillion vacuous averments.

Now, dear readers, may I respectfully direct your attention to the antecedent post? I should think that a fair critique of the subject post would have to acknowledge that it would be hard, if not impossible to top the moutains of grammatical errors therein. Now, I mention that not to castigate, but to remind man turned goat that I care not about the lingusitic prowess my interlocutors.

Readers will recall how many times this hunter with a cough has thrown the moniker of "intellectual" and the silly badge of "superior intellect" on my person, which I wisely ignored. Dude, find a better target for that "CENTURIES OLD" game.

Goats are generally devoid of a sharp memory? Did the self-characterized 'goat' not aver in the worldwide web that unless I tender my definitions of country and nation (which had been amply tendered), that he would not continue corresponding with me? I suppose the memory of a goat is shallow, not to mention that its emotional constitution is charged with a short fuze.

Since, I cannot be found communicating with a goat, for a herdsman, I am not, this is the most propitious time to order the self-characterized goat to "hit the road" of goatdom., It is a well-known fact that goats are destined for, as they say in West Africa, "chop."

Some ascribe the diminutive of "lack of self-esteem" to Africans, a xenophobic over-generalization, to be sure. However, when an element of the set "Africans" voluntarily calls himself a goat, then intellectual honesty and take no crap morals mandate that a spade be called a spade.

Ecce Homo: Mister Chappie SAYS he is a goat.

Author: chappie
Sun Aug 31 19:34:40 2008

Sir, it's very interesting how simple concepts and ideas fail to find their marks on you. You compared me to a goat in your earlier posting and for the sake of arguement, I acquiesced and now you pretend as if I was the one who introduced that abuse; please don't tell me that your verbal arsenal is depleting!

Author: jallohlaw
Sun Aug 31 21:34:47 2008

Stop fibbing, homey: you called yourself a goat, or do you wish to retract your self-dehumanization? Too late for that now, don't you think? Excuse, it is "generally accepted" that goats don't think.

Mendancious one: you abused yourself, and now, in a spirit oozing with moral degeneracy, you accuse me of introducing "that abuse," the very abuse you voluntarily threw on yourself: the abuse, that is, that YOU ARE A GOAT?

Even if arguendo, I had "compared" to a goat, you did admit you are a goat, did you not? You did: then a goat you are.

Your problem is that YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ CLOSELY: the trope of a a parable does not individualize. Your ignorance of that rhetorical rule, led you to call yourself a goat.

Who am I to rebaptize you, when you have baptized yourself, without invading your freedom of action?

THAT I WILL NEVER DO, AND THUS THE MONKER hangs on your back like a monkey, a monkey you placed there.

Author: chappie
Sun Aug 31 23:55:22 2008

Yes, sir, I Am a G.O.A.T (Greatest Of All Times). Can we get back to the issue now?

Author: jallohlaw
Mon Sep 1 03:41:55 2008

Yes, goat. The issue is your bloated, unfounded pride that is not supported by your feeble intellectual grip.

And the evidence? The goat says 'he' is the "(Greatest of All Times)." For readers who are religious this should constitute the apotheosis of blasphemy: the greatest of all times for such readers SHOULD BE "GOD," and the last time I checked the books of the book religions, I did not find the equation: God = a Goat.

But, perhaps the intellectual powerhouse from the soupist territory of Liberia may have a SOLUTION for the equation.

The dude is very smart.

Solve the equation, then!

Author: chappie
Mon Sep 1 21:10:53 2008

If you are so religious and accuse me of blasphemy, why put God in quotations? Anyway, even an atheist knows that me calling myself a G.O.A.T. doesn't mean that I'm calling myself a god; so I'm not even going to waste my time to duel too much into it.

Author: jallohlaw
Tue Sep 2 02:04:33 2008

More blunders:

Chappie: "...me calling myself a G.O.A.T...."

Appropriate usage: "by calling myself...."

Chappie: "...I'm not even going to waste my time to DUEL TOO MUCH INTO IT."

Look, dude: "duel too much into it" is not English, period.

Alternatively, please check your spelling, Professor Chappie! Perhaps, you meant to write "dwell." Should you riposte "typo," may I remind you that a "typo" is a typographical ERROR?

Assume that you meant to write "dwell," don't you see that you are still on your grammatical knees? The expression "Dwell too much into it" is simply not idiomatic English; the proper idiomatic usage is "dwell on it."

Should you continue to wax in this inexplicable incapacity to express yourself properly AND CLEARLY in English, I suggest you write in your "native dialect."

Author: chappie
Tue Sep 2 01:53:31 2008

This post was deleted because it contravenes AllAfrica's commenting guidelines.

Author: jallohlaw
Tue Sep 2 02:32:42 2008

HERR STALKER from the soupist occupied territory of Liberia, which ain't no nation state, period: there you again with more linguistic blunders:

Chappie: "It has become quite apparent, (sic) that you are cognitively, emotionally, intellectually and pyschologicaly exhausted and defeated, as evidence (sic) by ...."

Manifestly, perspicuous evidence of a linguistically challenged dude is displayed in the quoted text.

Your baby steps into the swamp of xenophobia are deemed archaic, savage and uncivilized. I am reasonably certain that the owners of this website denounce xenophobic rants, and I expect them AND NOW DEMAND THAT THEY denounce yours, in the interest of the intellectual integrity of their investment, not to mention its financial fecundity, for reasons that should be obvious to the most naive business man or woman.

You crossed the line your derogatory references to Freetown. Moreover, your use of military metaphors substantially confirms my theory that the soupist occupier state of the TERRITORY OF LIBERIA invaded the equally soupist territory of Sierra Leone.

But, HAWAII FIVE O BESIDES, THE GRAMMATICAL CRUSADE STILL ROCKS, GRATIS.

Author: chappie
Wed Sep 3 00:21:59 2008

This post was deleted because it contravenes AllAfrica's commenting guidelines.

Author: precious
Thu Aug 28 19:03:58 2008

This is pure foolishness and disrespect to Liberia in general and the black race as a whole! Is this the salve era where you took us around in chains, or some racist some where trying to play a sick joke?? Remember, THIS IS A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE FIRST INDEPENDENT BLACK STATE FOUNDED BY FREE SLAVES. He is not a harden criminal. According to law, he is innocent and I repeat,innocent until proven guilty! Give him all the repect he deserves as a person and as a former president!!!

Author: Seeraya
Thu Aug 28 20:27:53 2008

Admittedly I do not feel much sorrow for Mr. Taylor. He is not being raped, did not lose a limb. His family was not killed in front of him, his home burned to the ground. He is not being tortured, turned into a "bush wife (husband), he was not forced to become a combatant... he has not been murdered. Really when you look at this, home many people who suffered these things, partly due to him, would LOVE to be in Taylor's position... to be chained during transport? Poor man! Let us riot in the street. Fact of the matter is, we do not know why the chains are being used. It may be racism, though he has been an African all this time and this precaution has just started, it could be some unknown threat that authorities will not disclose to us. It could be a practice that is used all over the world on detainees. (Last I checked using chains, handcuffs, ECT is a common practice for many criminals, and they are ALL innocent until proven guilty)

Do you all rant and rave about racism when it’s an African American man, a Hispanic woman or a European male that is in shackled in chains? At least Taylor wears a suit; many others are in prison garb.

This is not to say that there is deep often unyielding racism when it pertains to Africa, but this hatred is not our only problem. It’s not even our greatest problem right now. Really what Africa's problem is, is our own people. Those "revolutionaries" that have decided to start a war yet somehow the citizens are the only ones who suffer. It’s those "leaders" who damn the west and outsiders yet somehow are able to sell our resources to them to gain money to buy guns from them to kill their own citizens. It’s those we hail as sons and daughters of Africa that line their pockets with OUR resources then take the money and put it in western banks, they move their families to the west, send their kids to school there, Then they come to Africa and say look at what THEY have done to us. It’s more like “Look what YOU have done to us!” Then we listen and support them, blaming the west, when your family was murdered by another African. Have you ever notice how these people blame the west for things only after everything is ruined and their outside partners have turned on them? The west did not become the enemy of Taylor until after they turned on him, calling him a warlord, limiting his access to diamonds, money, weaponry, and free travel. Make no mistake Taylor is one of those people, and I for one could care less what kind of chain they put him in.

Author: jsaydee
Fri Aug 29 02:21:01 2008

I strongly believe in justice no mateer what your position is in society. Charles Taylor commited crimes against the Liberians and Serria Leoneans and has to be treated no differently because he was famous president of Liberia. He will not be the first criminal to be chained. The law is taking is course and has nothing to do with race. His Lawyers are playing with the emotions of Liberians and are not concerned about the millions of people Taylor hurts because of his greed for power. Thank to the International Criminal Court that there is justice for all. Saydee, Minnesota

Author: Mr. O
Thu Aug 28 20:13:51 2008

It really amazes me to hear from Liberians that they now have sympathy for a man that cause so many people their lives and livihoods. Mr. Taylor yes offcourse is a former president of our country but he doesn't deserve any sympathy or whatsoever. Talking about racism; Taylor is a murderer he took innocent people lives for his very own gains, so I don't think that what they are doing to him is racist its just "KARMA" and he is very lucky they are not cutting off his limbs like he ordered his fighters to do to the innocents both in Sierra Leone and Liberia. Liberia is not being disrespect in any way, shape or form, charles Taylor represents bad memories for our beloved country and people. As a Christian I pray that God will have mercy on his soul. The next time that he is leaving his cell they chain his legs to the point that they are about to cut off so he can know how it feels to have your limbs removed. I wish that our God have mercy on his soul as he rotts in hell for all the atrocities that he caused his people.

Author: jinezz2001
Thu Aug 28 20:13:18 2008

This must be stopped by all means necessary by Africans in what ever way the can, by the way why not try this man Charles Taylor in Africa? We must know as people that no man will ever escape the laws of nature what a man sow he shall reap, the Dutch securities must remember there will always be tomorrow, and a pay day for all mans actions and inactions.however mr taylor call for the mess.

Author: ayo
Fri Aug 29 02:07:38 2008

Do we have to blame this westerners, No. It is our fault as Africans. When the former Russian (USSR) President was brought to this same court, chain was not put round his waist, why Taylor. It is true that Taylor was guilty of war crime, according to some people, but the offence he committed was against his people, so why is it that Liberian governmet can not deal with it at home.If his people have not delievered him into the Dutch's hand Africans will not be humiliated like this. The shame is for all Blacks worlwide, not only Liberians or Africans. where id the human right campaginers. Taylor deservers an apology, Blacks all over the world also deserves the apology of the Dutch government. Let it be known that the time of slavery has gone. He may be standing trial for war crime, but the respect should be given to him as one time president of a nation. Taylor according to law is still innocent, until the court decide otherwise.

Author: moses massa
Fri Aug 29 13:42:48 2008

Please get your facts right. No former USSR President has ever been indicted by the International Criminal Court or stood trial. Thanks!

Author: sarahwy.wanda
Fri Aug 29 02:38:10 2008

What's wrong with any treatments of Charles Taylor? He's reapping just what he sowed. Those of you who take pleasure in inflicting sufferings on other people will desrve consequences in return. No doubt some of you who are advocating Taylor's defense are his companions who along with Mr. Taylor,metted ontoll sufferings on other Liberians and neighbor Sierra Loneans for many years. You are all aware of your evil acts against Liberians and Sierra Loneans for nearly fourteen years; the scars of which many of us will live with for the rest of our lives. For those of you who had the upper hands and benefitted immensely from the attrocities and geoncides in both countries are not feeling the pain we still feel today either for the losses of our loved ones or the pysical injuries that some people are suffering today. You'll along with Taylor personally inflicted sufferings or masterminded or better still, commanded your war machines,so to speak, the death squards to kill or injur human beings , who God gave lives to live like yourselves. Some of us are sharing the tears Charles Taylor (and you'll) put in our eyes today and forever(from generation to generation). Just to hell with former president. The best title for Charles Taylor is carnivour, instead of "Former president". I hope you'll have ears to hear or eyes to see and reflect on your misdeals in the unforgettable pasts.

Author: erikbos55
Sat Aug 30 12:54:02 2008

This criminal does not deserve better. Don't talk about discrimination, that is a joke. My (Liberian) wife was raped by the followers of this animal. Shame on them all! I wish "Mr Taylor" will never be a free man again. All victims, Rest In Peace.

Author: jallohlaw
Sat Sep 13 17:25:57 2008

You mean accused criminal, don't you?




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