Cape Argus (Cape Town)
13 September 2008
The ANC wants President Thabo Mbeki to resign, or it will force its MPs to remove him. Some of the ruling party's national executive committee (NEC) members want to go further and fire Mbeki as an ordinary ANC member.
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Well written! The Zimbabwe saga is not complete and requires a sane person like Zuma to complete it. What deal is this which has not been disclosed to the Zimbabwean people? Why the deal when its a simple matter of leaders well past their sale date having to leave public office and let others carry the task of correcting their destruction? Why make Tsvangirai's task that difficult by leaving hate-talking and spendthrift Mugabe in the same house? What is clown Mutambara doing in there except to masquerade as opposition when he is Mugabe's fan and allay, out to derail the much desired change? Wanting to send Tsvangirai to go fishing for aid which will be squandered by the same people who destroyed such a prosperous country? They ran out of things to steal as the state is broke, not they want someone to attract donor funds, which they again loot in stead of building capacity for the nation and eventually turning Zimbabwe into a donor for other nations . This is a sham.
I don't quite understand where all these calls for our president's head are coming from. For years Thabo Mbeki has been rediculed for the so-called quiet diplomacy. Now when it seems to be yielding good fruits, this Zuma case is overshadowing his hard-worked-for glory. Mbeki worked his butt off to get all parties into signing what initially seemed to have been an imossible achievement. But the ANC and its bloody allies want him to go? I say "no!" Leave Mbeki alone. A lot of things have been said about him but I don't think getting rid of him just yet will solve the country's problems. One also has to remember that his term only ends next year, and it was not the SACP,COSATU and the YL of the ANC that made hi the country's president. it was the voters of the country, in general. So leave him alone.
It is a shame that a sex predator like Jacob Zuma could be catapulted to the presidency in this way rather than send to the zulu gods to be cleansed from HIV infection and disgrace he brought to himself.
It will be stupid of the ANC to fire or to ask Mbeki to resign at this juncture of election period.Cde Mbeki is one of our rarest son's produced by the ANC in the same fashion as Cde Zuma, it is true that just like all of us he might have faultered there and there including his judgement on Zuma at a personal level but that does not delete what he has done for this country throughout his struggle years up to his leadership of the country and the ANC.He has delivered on the mandate given to him through our elections manufesto and resolutions of the movements taken before the last conference that elected him. Through this judgment it has became clear that the hostilities between this cdes are nothing but personal clushes that have been fought remotely using nearest objects to each positions, in Mbeki's case the state happen to be the most convinient while to cde Zuma the masses happen to be closest, we therefore cannot afford to let the whole ANC suffer the well deserve election victor on the bases of individual battles, that are unfortunately have affected all of us, now is the time to look at the good that the two has in their bags and move forward by not returning fire with fire which is un ANC and allow Mbeki to finish his term and properly hands over power to his comrade as required by the ANC constitution, however cde Mbeki should be warned for the offence he might have committed which would be his first offence after more than 52 years as a loyal member of the ANC and so as Zuma. let us not follow the saying that says one mistake could erase many good deeds at ago, we should be more wiser than that. Mdu Cele (member of the ANC)and MKVA
It is sad and unfortunate that one of Africa's most respected and celebrated leader, Thabo Mbeki of South Africa may have to end his presidency in shame. That his own political party ANC members are calling for his head is a shame to all of Africa.
While his predecessor Nelson Mandela demonstrated a venerated international statesmanship when he stepped down after his first (and which he made his only presidential term), Thabo Mbeki would have shamed all of African politicians if in fact what he is accused of is true as it apparently appears.
It seems to me that the time is now for Africa's political transformation; to chart out a new social-political strategy where social and political leaders at all levels undergo some form of special spiritual cultural training based upon the ageless esoteric divine wisdom that is rooted in Africa's rich myths, legends and folklore; in what can be termed African Mystic Philosophy. Only this can uplift Africa from where foreign religions and christian evangelism have failed even to uproot corruption and bribery, nepotism and political power greed, etc. This further explains why our continent needs a new breed of leaders not based upon age but on high spiritual content, integrity, selflessness and highest possible morals. Leaders bearing the insight into Africa's future not as a poor, backward continent but the next leader in world affairs.
Its a shame that this has happened...The judgment even though it is from the "competent"court does not mean Zuma has not committed an offence...If an offence was not committed,then Shaick would not be in jail,so who knows,Zuma might have tempered with justice to influence that Judgment...mind you,these judges are appointed by political officers in the name of President...in that light,it follows that some of the decisions will be biased based on who at that point is in favor.A person as controversial as Zuma is capable of just anything,including influencing judges to make decisions like this one.,mind you,these courts are independent most of the time in "theory"especially on issues of national interest...South Africans must exercise caution when dealing with this issue as it might cause civil unrest within the country if not handled properly...
Mr. Mulaka, Seems like this spiritual cultural training can be introduced right here in our schools. We have the next generation of such leaders right here. This is possible for Africa, she can lead the world with such dignity then maybe the rest of OUR PEOPLE will have the courage to come back home from all parts of the world with their knowledge of finance, technology, education and skills and that's all one needs to make AFRIKA the GREAT continent it's meant to be.
For the sake of the highest interest of stability in SA, Mbeki should seriously contemplate to step down over his alledged interference in the course of justice concerning the Zuma case.
Mbeki is already a President limping on one-foot after having lost the presidency of the ANC. He may not be able to reading the writings of the wall after his infamous "what crisis" in Zimbabwe inspite of the fact that murderer Mugabe terrorised over 4 million Zimbabweans to run seek refuge in SA!!
Should he decide to challenge the findings of the judge in the Zuma case, Mbeki will start a dangerous process of tearing down the country. The ANC will not stand by his side. Parliament will not support him. The judiciary will be upset. Civil society activists will ridicule him.
I have the impression that he has rubbed shoulders too much with murderer Mugabe that he is also developing serious shortcomings in foresight. Just like his two-headed formula imposed on Zimbabwe, to save Mugabe skin, which is the cause of great anxiety amongst Zimbabweans.
Mbeki's intention to challenge the findings of the judge may be just a quick emotional outburst. If he has worked for the good of SA all his life, he should better fight the challenge in his capacity as the former President than in his capacity of a seating President.
May we hope that his good sense will prevail at last!