Author: gtowsend
Fri Oct 17 14:46:47 2008

The greed for political power in Africa has become one of the most destructive elements on our continent. How can we compete with the west or any other developing countries when we do not respect the will of our people? While our people are dying, greedy politicians care less and only seek after their own self-interests. Old man Mugabe needs to hang it up as he has failed his people. He is doing nothing more simply disgracing himself. It is time for change Mugabe, step down for the sake of your people...! There is no more room for dictatorship in Africa. Get the message and stop making fool out of yourself!!!

Author: Thuthu
Fri Oct 17 18:45:51 2008

the greed in the US and Europe is worse. The bailout of the financial sectors in these countries has just shown us how, corrupt and fraudulent these people are. Where did the trillions of pounds and dollars went to? The notion that Africa survive because of AID is the brainwashing propaganda which the western world have been pumping to the people. How come there were able to pump so much money in such a short time, yet they money they promised to Make Poverty History has not yet been given to the receipents. The G8 have never given Africa anything for free, a lesson Africans should know by now. For how many years have AID be given to Africa, yet not even one African country can say successfully that poverty is not a word they know. If the G8 can print trillions, nationalise their economies and are in a recession, but wont use the words, why is that we dont ask the right questions at the right time?

Author: mabhiza
Fri Oct 17 19:00:55 2008

Thanx Thuthu, keep up the standard!!!i concur with you there...you're 100% right.

Author: awt_independent
Fri Oct 17 19:54:32 2008

To correct you Thuto, there was no corrupt or fraudulent behavior in the US or Europe to create the current economic client. Everyone acted within the rules as they stand. What was at fault was lax regulation allowing companies to not state SIV's on their balance sheets, and therefor not fully disclose their positions. There was nothing fraudulent or corrupt about any of these behaviors, greed yes, but nothing fraudulent.

If you want to see corruption, take a look at the pockets of the ZANU PF and why they are so afraid to give up the finance ministry. If they do, the MDC will be able to audit these books and see the massive misappropiation of funds that has led to Zimbabwe being listed as the 14th most corrupt country in the world.

The bailout is showing just how solid these countries are. That they are able to poor so much money back into these sectors to build them back up again, which Zimbabwe was never able to do.

The trillions of pounds did not go into anyones back pockets. When the stock market falls 10%, that doesnt mean that 10% of the value of the stock market goes into someones back pocket now does it. What a stupid comment.

As for the G8 never giving Africa anything for free, why should they? Why should you sit there and expect free money? Why should Mugabe beat and murder his own people and then expect the west to pay him money? This is why you see sanctions on him and his government.

Yet another poor brainwashed fool. I pity you.

Author: gtowsend
Fri Oct 17 21:32:49 2008

Thuthu, you missed the point, my friend. Your comparison is also a bad one. The government in those countries you just named are not starving their people, economy, etc. They have better regulations and laws that protect their citizens, businesses, etc. They do not turn their heads one side why their masses suffer. Also, it time for Africa stop being so dependant on developed nations and begins to implement economic policies that would benefit the continent. Our so-called African leaders make our people and businesses to depend on others for survival. This is purely wrong for one of the riches continents on earth. Leader like Mugabe locks leadership, economic, and strategic plans that could bring more investments and make his country competive. There is absolutely no economic plans at all for most of our African nations. The leaders believe that begging would build our economy. I beleive these developed nations are tired of spoon feeding us why our leaders fail to put together sound economic plans to move the continent forward. Unlike Africa, if the US and Europe as you mentioned, we were greedy, at least they have the means to bid themselves out of the hole. Look at Zimbawe and Mugabe, the once prosperous economy has ruined since the departure of those who helped built it. If you need to condem anyone, condem most of African leaders who have no natinal interest but believe only in the prosperity themselves and friends. Let's stay close to home and leave out developed countries. Right next door to Mugabe, South Africa, for example, within the same continent, managed to developed one of the best economic polices that has make it the best developed economy on the continent. What South Africa has done to its economy can be done by any African nation. But most our leaders do not want to learn economic policies that would benefit all. They believe in pocket economy, meaning, stealing from the people for them and their families and friends. Such a policy has generated no good resuts but wars and economic depressions and starvation amongst the our less fortunates. So Thuthu, before you blame the west for the failure of your own leader's policies, review both sides of the arguments to keep it balance. We should be thankful to Europe and US for haven't turning their backs on Africa because, if they do, the whole continent will starve to death!!!

Author: gtowsend
Fri Oct 17 14:47:48 2008

The greed for political power in Africa has become one of the most destructive elements on our continent. How can we compete with the west or any other developing countries when we do not respect the will of our people? While our people are dying, greedy politicians care less and only seek after their own self-interests. Old man Mugabe needs to hang it up as he has failed his people. He is doing nothing more but simply disgracing himself. It is time for change Mugabe, step down for the sake of your people...! There is no more room for dictatorship in Africa. Get the message and stop making fool out of yourself!!!

Author: Mhepo
Fri Oct 17 16:05:28 2008

You have hit the nail on the head.Its all about how many millions they can get for themselves rather than trying to improve the life of the ordinary man on the streets.Thank God for giving us a limit in life, otherwise some people would have loved to rule until they are 200yrs old. The only hoe is that everything comes to an end no matter how hard the Old man tries to hang on to power one way or the other the end is near.

Author: mabhiza
Fri Oct 17 16:51:21 2008

gtowsend,How can your mind sink that low!!, you clueless numbskull..What will of the people are u refering to..It seems you're just pathetic..OUR constitution says that if no candidate gets 50%+ votes he's not a winner..,thus no will of the people is declared there, simple as that..the stooge tsvangirai failed to get 50% therefore neither him nor his Western sponsors can make noise about will of the people..You know, it never ceases to astonish me, The odessey of hipocrisy of Western leaders, their media and naive readers like this silly goat, gtowsend who brag about rule of law and yet they're the same people who disregard it for the sake of the stooge..Gtowsend , ziva zvekumusha kwako,leave Zimbos alone..President R.G.M, EMPOWERED US the black majority and we are profoundly grateful to him for that!!!

Author: prem
Fri Oct 17 17:02:17 2008

Mugabe's bootlicker, idiot Mabhiza, must be reminded that the constitution also says no one should go unpunished on committing murders, maiming and rape!

Coward Mabhiza can never dare to denounce the violence generated at Mugabe's instigation. He is a rotten nut to be left by the wayside.

Author: mabhiza
Fri Oct 17 18:18:07 2008

Prem, i've totally outclassed you interms of FACTS and depth over the past few days , and like an embittered village idiot you accordingly always show that you're no match to my intellectual prowess..

Author: awt_independent
Fri Oct 17 19:46:30 2008

Mabhiza, why do you continue to talk nonsense. You never state facts, only lies. Hows this for a fact. The Zimbabwean constitution clearly states that the run off election MUST be held within 3 weeks of the election. Therefore as the run off election was not within the statutory 3 weeks, the result is therefore unconstituional and Mugabe is illegitimate. Simple really. You are quite stupid at the best of times, so dont try and compete with your intellect, because you cant.

Author: takunya_ndebvu
Sat Oct 18 10:33:37 2008

Prem and Awt_indepndent and the whole croud of stooges can never match the depth of the facts you dish out to them each time you post an item. Keep it up Cde Mabhiza, these idiots, these fools need to be told until they repent. Zvidhoma izvi zvinofanira kuudzwa kusvikira zvadzokera kumakuva. We have no place for them among good and GOD fearing people!!

Author: awt_independent
Mon Nov 3 11:13:11 2008

Takunya, I dont fear God. Why should I? Only those that have done something wrong have something to fear. And it sounds like you place yourself squarely in that category. As for facts. Havent seen 1!

Author: jrr562004
Mon Oct 20 07:54:46 2008

I have not found even one point of fact (or depth) that you so vociferously claim in any of your posts. You truly are the village idiot! You are like every ZANU fool boasting how clever you are after having stolen, raped and destroyed a country. Now that you cannot go and enjoy the spoils of your thievery, you cry that the travel sanctions are unfair.

Author: gore
Fri Oct 17 19:47:53 2008

Thuthu I dont know what part of Zimbabwe you come from man. Im not sure if you even talk to people in Zimbabwe because if you did you would know kuti zvakapresser mudhara.Even Mugabe himsef has said there is a humanitarian crises in the country. Mabhiza continualy exposes his "supreority mentality" which he obviously measures by his comprehension of the english language and culture. to him a man is an idiot because he comes from a village. Mabhiza claims Mugabe empowered him. Empowered him in what? How?.Where? By giving him a western education. Mugabe empowered him to drive BMWs and own Massey Ferguson Tractors, all products of the west. This is what the Mabhiza's of this world call empowerment. They have no inkling of what Black Consiusness is. To them Mugabe is a great man because he speaks eloquent english. Mabhiza, a black man who respects the queen of england and the institution she represents is no self respecting black man. A man who called on our black ancestors to lead him in the struggle and then turned his back on them on Independance day is not fit to lead a black nation. A man who waited 16 years to give the heroes who fell at Nyadzonya and Chimoyi a decent burial is not fit to lead our nation. A man who believes that pure diesel spews out of a rock IS NOT FIT TO BE A LEADER

Author: gtowsend
Fri Oct 17 22:01:09 2008

mabhiza,

You know, you are interesting considering you don't seem to understand your own constitution. Now, tell me, where in your constitution does it say that the people of Zimbawe should live in agony, starvation, fear for their lives for standing up for their rights? Where in your constitution does it say that people should not excercise their right to speak their mind? Does your constitution says that the gov't should suffer or cost hardship for its citizens and forced them into exile? I am not sure how bright you are when it comes election. Have you ever heard the phrase, free and fair election? It did not say the people should be harassed, threatened, killed, etc. for voting for the person they believe can bring about change. I am sure, and you should know this, that no where in your constitiion says that police and soliders should brutalize citizens or create fear in them for voting against a fail administration. If the will of the people was important to ruthless Mugabe, he would had sense the suffering, state of the economy, and move his tail out of the way for another sound minded, economically informed, to succeed him. What you yourself failed to notice is that, he failed to be fairly elected. He stole the election and the whole world, including the AU, your fellow citizens, and Mugabe himself, is aware. If the people will of the people was done, he would had been resoundly re-elected with 80% as he claimed in previous election. So, you abviously do not know the definition of what the will of the people is. You need to stop writing and hitch back to village where you can decieve them with your illed-knowledge. Perhaps you are one of Mugbae's agents who going around cutting the innocent and poor throat for a buck to survive. CUT OUT THE RUBBISH!!!

Author: Makasa
Sat Oct 18 08:53:15 2008

It is totally embarrasing that morons like Mbilhazia, AK 47 ,who incidently , it seems has been everything in this life , from a Jack to a Queen,Mpudzi Ndebvhu, One stole Zim , greenbomb the coward , afraid of not being able to sell his paprika crop from a farm he stole, to the evil west ,and a colourful cast of other mongrel type comedeans , can wipe these pages with Mugabe Mtoto and instead of flushing it, try to make the world believe it ! Mugabe had Zimbabwe handed to him on a platter by the same ones he now deems as evil to further his wickedness. He then started a reign of terror on his own people and should now pay the price for breaking the trust placed in him. Instead, he has instilled such fear in certain people whose comments we read , so that they are too afraid to speak the truth Zvokwadi , instead spout manure like the real garden boys they are. You lot embarras all black men with your ignorance !

Author: buddhamate
Sat Oct 18 15:46:05 2008

O'mighty wise one,keeper of all the worlds intelligence .What pray tell do you think Morgans backing himself on? The electoral observers the results published at polling stations were certain that Morgan had more than the 50% he needed and I think o'wise one even you know why it to took forever to rig it because the same genious's are currently running the "economy".

Author: Thuthu
Fri Oct 17 18:34:48 2008

We need to know why the EU and US are already wanting to impose new sanctions? This has nothing to do with Democracy. Africans need to know that Africa can do without The G8 as the resources are here. The control of our resources should be in our hands. For the G8 to be bankrupt is a blessing to us, as they can not be wanting to bail us out, when they themselves are broke. The UK is in red of £55 Trillion, for they were spending money which was not even there, yet their inflation and value of their currency is still below 5%, and the Zimbabwe's inflation is at 300 Million %, yet the country has not collapsed as yet. So who is fooling who? Zimbabwe is still a breadbasket, but not a breadbasket which now longer belongs to the G8 Citizens, that is why they dont see anyone else being successful. Poverty is for African and wealth for the Europeans, this is what we have to change this racistic attitude. Zimbabwe is wealthy and its farms are still producing, if not why dont they show us the 5 miilion starving Zimbabweans on Television, as they love to talk of big numbers. The Financial meltdown in the US is still being covered up, what is the extent of it, but they are very quick to talk about Zimbabwe's failure. George W.Bush caused the meltdown of the US and no-one talks about it, because he is a brilliant white president.

Author: mabhiza
Fri Oct 17 18:44:01 2008

Thuthu, wabaya dede nemumukanwa mwana wamai,.You see ,Prem, our numbers are growing, many enlightened people are now fearlessly challenging Western anti-Zimbabwe propaganda machinery ., They're beginning to see through the British orchestrated sinister agenda.

Author: mancam_28
Fri Oct 17 20:54:37 2008

mabhiza, I think when it comes to you, a village is missing their idiot.

You have the intellect of a chongololo in a coma.

You really need to learn to separate fact from fiction, and recognize that Zimbabwe is a failure because of Mugabe, and not the west, not the people of Zimbabwe, and not the weather.

Maybe you would be just a bit smarter, if you got sick in Zimbabwe and needed to be hospitalized, where they have now posted signs that read, "Please remember to collect your relative’s belongings after they die."

You have shit between your ears, and the lies that you spew, make you look more and more ignorant.

Remember, better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

I don't know how you manage to tie your shoes in the morning.

Author: buddhamate
Sun Oct 19 16:14:55 2008

Crikey, Mabhiva are you telling me Mugga Luvas'are enlightened people?

Author: awt_independent
Fri Oct 17 20:07:44 2008

The EU and US wanting to impose more sanctions on Zimababwe has everything to do with Democracy. If Zimbabwe had a free and fair election, and Mugabe respected its result, no matter what its outcome, then there would be no sanctions. I'm sick of Zimbabweans wanting to beat their own people to get power, then expect the west to be best friends with them knowing this. Its a disgrace.

IF you think that you can do without the G8 then fine, do it. The sanctions on the Zimbabwean government are exactly that, the west not giving help to the Zimbabwean government. So if you want this to continue, its absolutely fine by me.

The control of Zimbabwean resources IS in your hands. Nobody is forcing you to sell them! Christ you are stupid!

And again you lie! The UK national debt is £1.3 trillion, not £55 trillion! You're out by a factor of 40! So are you lying? Or are you uneducated? Which one!

And the Zimbabwean national debt as a percentage of GDP is well over 100%, while the UK is well under 100% meaning that the UK is well placed to service that debt.

Dont try and talk economics when you dont even understand them!

"Zimbabwe is still a breadbasket" Then why the hell are you importing food and aid to survive?

The reason why they dont show starving Zimbabweans on television is because Mugabe has banned foreign media! You are so dumb! And besides, have you tried to fit 5 million people onto the tv screen! They wouldnt fit!

George Bush did not cause the melt down in the US, but seeing your knowledge of economics that you have just proved to be at zero, I'm not surprised you are stupid enough to think that.

Christ, grow a brain and start thinking logically, with facts!

Author: awt_independent
Fri Oct 17 20:09:17 2008

Thuthu = Mabhiza. Mabhiza = Thuthu. Reminds me of an old Ace Ventura movie. You know the one. Laces out!




AllAfrica - All the Time

SELECT
SELECT

Most Active Stories

Topics