Author: mabhiza
Wed Oct 22 07:50:12 2008

Western backed Tsvangi should never be taken seriously ..He is the one who pressed for the sadc troika summit, but then he shifted goalposts..He has never ever been prevented from travelling .Everyone is aware of this..The stooge has been using emergency travel documents(Etds)for about a year now when travelling to his sponsors in Britain,EU, and United States..,now he is refusing to use the same Etd to travel to Swaziland...Tsvangi is demanding a passport whilst the rest of zimbabweans use Etds, After all he's the one who called for the economic sanctions that have affected all economic and social sectors in Zim, including the registrar gen's department..The sellout is now feeling the effects of his foolishness , as the much needed passport paper has run out due to his Western sponsors' sanctions...Why did he refuse to be picked up by Mswati's pvt jet ???.There is nothing special about Tsvangi, he should continue to use Etds like all of us until his handlers lift economic sanctions......

Author: awt_independent
Wed Oct 22 08:22:07 2008

Please ignore any comments from Takunya and Comical Mabhiza. Here are some facts (and you cant argue with facts!) why..

1) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza are paid by the ZANU PF to spread propaganda and lies, and to twist the truth in the ZANU PF's favor on the internet.

2) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza are one and the same person.

3) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza both have stated that Mugabe is the most democratic leader in Africa. Seriously!

4) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza both support the use of violence, murder, rape and torture by Mugabe against the people of Zimbabwe.

5) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza both believe that Bush is responsible for atrocities in Iraq, and this justifies Mugabe's atrocities in Zimbabwe, including the genocide of 20,000 Ndebele people and the murders of over 100 MDC supporters during this years elections.

6) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because none of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

7) If you say anything against Mugabe, Takunya and Comical Mabhiza may say that you are paid by the CIA and MI5 to write here.

8) I do not work for the CIA

9) The CIA does not pay me. If they do, please give them my bank account details, all cards accepted. :-)

10) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza will also resort to childish name calling when they have no factual evidence based argument.

11) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza both believe that Tsvangirai called for sanctions against the people of Mugabe.

12) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because non of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

13) Tsvangirai never called for sanctions against the people of Zimbabwe.

14) When confronted and asked for evidence of this, Takunya and Comical Mabhiza have none.

15) The Sanctions faced by Zimbabwe are not against the people of Zimbabwe.

16) The Sanctions faced by Zimbabwe are only against the government and its ministers, and 4 companies, including one that makes military uniforms.

17) None of these Sanctions are faced by the people of Zimbabwe.

18) Tsvangirai is not responsible for these sanctions.

19) If Tsvangirai did not exist, there would still be sanctions on Zimbabwe (as described above).

20) Therefore Tsvangirai is 100% independent of Zimbabwe being sanctioned as above.

21) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because non of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

22) Biti and Ncube, and Tsvangirai had no input into the drafting of the American sanctions bill.

23) The west does not want to recolonise Zimbabwe.

24) The west does not want to invade Zimbabwe.

25) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because non of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

26) The west does not want to poison aid and kill Zimbabweans.

27) Tsvangirai has never denied aid to the Zimbabwean people, only Mugabe has done this.

28) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because non of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

So just ignore Takunya and Comical Mabhiza, and let these facts speak for themselves.

Thank you for your time.

Author: rmkooistra
Wed Oct 22 14:57:59 2008

29)Given their insane comments it's obvious Takunya and Mabhiza's mother must have had the same milkman as Idi Amin, and Charles Manson

Author: awt_independent
Wed Oct 22 09:04:46 2008

Comical Mabhiza, since when has paper for passports been sanctioned? Telling fibs again?

Author: matororo eZanu
Wed Oct 22 09:39:43 2008

Pliz guys don't reply to mabhiza and other CIOs comments let them write till hameno, why waste a lot of time then. They are always talking about sanctions without talking of the destruction caused by Zanu Pf for example they destroyed the Farming sector, corrupt officials, Mugabe defulted from,paying IMF and he said he can do without IMF and also he told Blair to keep his England.

Mabhiza do you still remember that you Zanu thugs scared away all the tourists who were giving Zimbabwe forex and also do you know that Zanu sent our army to DRC using funds for balalnce of payments support so you wand IMF to give you money to train your militia. Do you still remeber that its Zanu pf wh scared all the investors and enacted legislation which discouraged investments in Zimbabwe and also Mugabe is the one who barred NGO from distributing food aid and now people are dying of hunger.

If you say Mr Tsvangirai called for sanctions why is that all Zanu PF officials's children are learning out of the country where are they finding the forex if we don't have any to buy food. Why are they driving expensive mercs if the country have no forex. Why is that Mugabe went to USA with 55 people when people are dying of hunger in Zimbabwe, if he hate America why didn't he boycott meetings in America and Europe to show them that he is not eager to to be in their countries.

Mugabe is bitter because he can't go to America and Europe where he was used to splunder Zimbabwe's forex with his wife. If he is serious about what he is saying why keep our embassy open in those hostile countries.

Do you also know that Ian Smith was under sanctions but he managed to built Zimbabwe because he had Zimbabweans on heart. Why Mugabe's freinds are not assisting him and he is looking for assistance from enemies, do you think a normal person or country will give the Zanu PF gvt money to loot.

So Mabhiza and crew don't lie sanctions are not the cause of our suffering but bad governance and corruption are the real cause.

Author: sean
Wed Oct 22 12:03:03 2008

Finally, someone else seems to have seem the facts for what they are. Bread and butter issues that can not be ignored. THERE ARE NO SANCTIONS. YOU CANT CALL A BENE FIDE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION`S REFUSAL TO GIVE YOU MORE MONEY BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO HIGH RISK SANCTIONS. MICRO ANALYSE THE SITUATION. Mabhiza, please go to your bank and tell them that they should not expect your salary deposit this moth as you have shot the company accountant but could they give you two more credit card...........Get real guys and see things as they are. these chaps know that their days are over and are merely saying "sanctions remove sanctions" so that they can have acsess to all the money they have looted in overseas accounts frozen by SMART SANCTIONS.

Author: mabhiza
Wed Oct 22 14:28:28 2008

My brothers, matororo and sean, you're defending illegal economic sanctions imposed by outsiders on your very own fathers, mothers, grandparents, friends,innocent children in all zim primary and high schools ,vazukuru, vanambuya nanasekuru ekhaya ,innocent women and babies in hospitals, madzisahwira, vanatezvara...Just to let you know what you're doing..

Author: prem
Wed Oct 22 17:27:05 2008

Since when bloody Mabhiza had any feelings for his very own fathers, mothers, grandparents, friends? He continues to heap praise on murderer Mugabe for all his murders, maiming and rape!

What a filthy gut? Indeed it's an insult on journalists if ever this guy claims he is one! He is not worth throwing into the dustbin just like Mugabe/Gono's banknotes are worth less thna toilet paper! Sanctions there will be until we get Mugabe out into exile like Charles Taylor and Mobutu and Déby!!

Author: mabhiza
Wed Oct 22 18:30:16 2008

Prem, Tsvangi and his party MDC-T also acknowledged that their supporters actively took part in the orgy of violence before june runoff...Tsvangi admited this in a joint statement with Zanu pf in July....In case ,Prem and other guys on the blog, you didn't know..The stooge and his cohorts admitted they murdered, raped and tortured zanu pf suppoorters and they urged them to stop the brutality.....

Author: awt_independent
Thu Oct 23 07:41:43 2008

more twisted lies.

Author: takunya_ndebvu
Wed Oct 22 17:07:45 2008

Matororo eMDC, You can't have it both ways. You urge your fellow sellouts not to reply to Mabhiza's very informative, thought provocking and educative posts but you go ahead and do exactly the opposite, why? What kind of myopic thinking is that. It is the foolishness we have always pointed out on this forum. It only shows that you have been outclassed by those on the right side of history. You are a puppy and so when bulldogs are fighting stay away otherwise you get hurt.

Just like your brothers and fellow sellouts Awt_independent and Prem you spent two hours typing senseless and confused, and stale information that you are recycling from you CIA offices at Harvest House. We know that you have hired operatives from the notorious agencies like CIA and MI5.

Every other person except you, Boycott, Prem, CIA, MI5, Awt_independent and all the other foolish stooges know that we were right to defend the territorial integrity of the DRC. This includes Uganda and Rwanda who invaded the DRCongo before we went in to repel them. I have personally talked to Ugandans and they tell me that they were foolish to have gone into DRCongo at the instigation of the American CIA to protect their ill-gotten wealth in the Zaire while Mobutu was still in power. They also acknowledge that they respect our army, not least because they were defeated at the battle field, but because it is a professional army. You may be interested to know that soon after that war both countries sent envoys to Zimbabwe to ask for forgiveness.

Of course Tsvangirai called for sanctions on the Zimbabwean people. He did so with his own mouth. People do not have short memories like you who forgets that not so long ago Tsvangirai would not set foot on any African country except in transit. He would globetrot to Europe and America and during these errands he met and discussed sanctions with imperialists not once but the equal number of times that he went to Europe. No wonder why he is now crying for a passport so that he could again go and ask his masters to add more sanctions and to personally deliver names of those to be added on the sanction list.

President Mugabe has never craved to go to Europe or America because there is nothing to gain from going there. Infact there is everything to loose because you get conpromised like what happened to Boycott. You talk of why the President did not boycott the UN. This only proves your utter ignorance of what the UN and its function is.

The fact that it is situated America does not mean it is an American body. It is a union of all free nations of this world and that is why, despite putting him on travel ban to America, the Americans could not and cannot stop him from attending the UN and any other UN meeting even in Europe. He has every right to be at the UN otherwise we will call for its relocation to Harare.

In addition, the President is not like Boycott who boycotts everything including sleepiing with his wife who should enjoy her conjugal rights. President Mugabe is mature and well educated, not in the number of degrees he has, but in his understanding of world politics, hence, knows what Zimbabwe derives from his being there. Like when he went to UN he managed to convince most susceptical leaders who did not understand the situation in Zimbabwe. He managed to expose Tsvangirai for what he is, a sellout and a killer of his own people, a stooge of the imperialists.

I have said it on this forum but for your benefit I will repeat myself. Zimbabwe does not need assistance from the imperialists. We are a proud people who do not want to beg anyone including America and Britain. We are an equal partner in this global world. What we need is to be left to trade freely with those who want to do so with us. What we want is to be left alone to associate with whosoever we want. We have everything and anything you can think of in Zimbabwe.

We do not need GMO that could be tainted with the HIV virus. TELL YOU BUSH TO KEEP HIS GMO AND WE WILL GROW OUR OWN FOOD. Further to that tell him to keep his filthy lucre which comes with strings attached. We are an equal partner as I said and cannot accept strings being attached to what we get and not being able to attach strings to what we give out. PERIOD

Author: zvinorwadza
Thu Oct 23 06:07:21 2008

Mabhiza and Takunya, you are telling big lies here. Who doesn't crave to go to Europe or USA? Did you say RGM? In case you have forgotten, before the travel ban, RGM's stopover whenever travelling to any destination was London, his most prefered shop was Harrods. That's the reason he is so mad, he misses England big time. Which suspicious leaders did RGM managed to convince at UN meeting? How many empty chairs where in the summit hall when Mugabe was speaking his nonsense? The reason, they have heard that nonsense before. Each time he opens his mouth, he offers no new talk. He is like an advert, until he is removed from the slot, he will continue the same. If you think Russia and China are supporting you ZANU PF let me tell you "you are very wrong". You should have noticed how much investment China is putting in other African countries (Kenya and Sudan included) whose goverments they trust. Excuse me! Please tell us what was your position when you talked to Uganda about their involvement in DRC war? Which authority did you speak to? Here you are now. We have told you several times that you are not an ordinary ZANU PF supporter but a high ranking official not even a journalist by any inche. If you are a journalist, you must be from Zimpapers and you can't tell us your own independent opinion because your emails will be hacked by Justin Mtasa and you will be in hot soup. Every thing that you write exposes your foolishness. If there are honours in foolishness, you deserve them all, noone can beat you. Talk of food subsidies from USA, how many tonnes did you manage since hondo yeminda. Your grain silos are dry to zero just as the fuel tanks from the time you sacked Renson Gasela from GMB and when the late Enos Chikowore was in charge ministry of transoprt and energy. We definitely need those handouts from USA and other countries for our people. Again, you showing us your true colours that you don't care about the people of Zimbabwe. If USA and other countries are going to keep their maize and other stuff, then what do you do with the starving nation, those inneed of medicine etc. It's in the blood for sure.

Author: awt_independent
Thu Oct 23 07:50:19 2008

Please ignore any comments from Takunya and Comical Mabhiza. Here are some facts (and you cant argue with facts!) why..

1) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza work for the Herald, are paid by the ZANU PF to spread propaganda and lies, and to twist the truth in the ZANU PF's favor on the internet.

2) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza are one and the same person.

3) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza have stated that Mugabe is the most democratic leader in Africa. Seriously!

4) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that war veterans and police officers should be allowed to bar the MDC from distributing food to starving orphans.

5) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that freedom of speech should not exist in Zimbabwe and newspaper editors should be monitored to ensure they subscribe to the Zanu PF government's policies.

6) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that the US and Britain have openly stated that they are working with Zimbabwean journalists for "illegal regime change"

7) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe the MDC has a "dictatorial leader who does not allow alternative voices". Rather ironic that one.

8) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza both support the use of violence, murder, rape and torture by Mugabe against the people of Zimbabwe.

9) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza both believe that Bush is responsible for atrocities in Iraq, and this justifies Mugabe's atrocities in Zimbabwe, including the genocide of 20,000 Ndebele people and the murders of over 100 MDC supporters during this years elections.

10) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because none of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

11) If you say anything against Mugabe, Takunya and Comical Mabhiza may say that you are paid by the CIA and MI5 to write here.

12) I do not work for the CIA

13) The CIA does not pay me. If they do, please give them my bank account details, all cards accepted. :-)

14) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza will also resort to childish name calling when they have no factual evidence based argument.

15) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza both believe that Tsvangirai called for sanctions against the people of Mugabe.

16) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because non of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

17) Tsvangirai never called for sanctions against the people of Zimbabwe.

18) When confronted and asked for evidence of this, Takunya and Comical Mabhiza have none.

19) The Sanctions faced by Zimbabwe are not against the people of Zimbabwe.

20) The Sanctions faced by Zimbabwe are only against the government and its ministers, and 4 companies, including one that makes military uniforms.

21) None of these Sanctions are faced by the people of Zimbabwe.

22) Tsvangirai is not responsible for these sanctions.

23) If Tsvangirai did not exist, there would still be sanctions on Zimbabwe (as described above).

24) Therefore Tsvangirai is 100% independent of Zimbabwe being sanctioned as above.

25) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because non of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

26) Biti and Ncube, and Tsvangirai had no input into the drafting of the American sanctions bill.

27) The west does not want to recolonise Zimbabwe.

28) The west does not want to invade Zimbabwe.

29) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because non of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

30) The west does not want to poison aid and kill Zimbabweans.

31) Tsvangirai has never denied aid to the Zimbabwean people, only Mugabe has done this.

32) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because non of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

33) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that Zimbabwe only has partial independence and that the fight against colonialism still goes on.

34) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that Tsvangirai called for sanctions whilst being interviewed on BBC HardTalk in 2000.

35) Tsvangirai never appeared on BBC HardTalk in 2000. More lies.

36) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that the British want to bomb Zimbabwe.

37) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that the west wants to inject AIDS into aid to give to the people of Zimbabwe.

38) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that west want to destabilize Zimbabwe and "make it ungovernable for eventual American and British takeover just like in Iraq and Afghanistan."

39) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that Tsvangirai didn’t attend the meeting of SADC heads in Swaziland because he refused to go, and that he had a valid passport tor travel. This is after the Zim government clearly stated that Tsvangirai wasn’t issued a passport because there was no paper to make passports due to paper being under sanction.

40) Paper is not under any type of sanction.

41) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that Zimbabwe does not need any outside help.

42) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that Bush is tainting Genetically Modified Foods with Aids and delivering it to Zimbabwe. Is this even possible?

43) For saying these things, Takunya and Mabhiza have tried to discredit me by saying that "You have supported the American war on Iraq and Afghanistan. You have supported the torture of suspected terrorists by the CIA as it practises its extraordinary randition around the world. You have supported the rape of women and girls by the American soldiers many times. You have supported the use of chemical weapons on civilians in Vietnam many times on this forum. You are a CIA agent. You have been exposed as a bitter former white commercial farmer who got recruted by the CIA. You are totally against the land reform do not lie. You were part of the killing machinary that massacred our comrades at Chimoio, Nyadzonya, Mkushi etc."

All of this is simply propaganda made up by Takunya and Mabhiza to discredit what I say in my posts. And obvious as such to everyone with a brain. And I wouldnt be campaigning so strongly for the people of Zimbabwe who are subject to such practices at the hands of the Butcher of Harare if any of this were true.

PS did everyone spot the 4 spelling mistakes in that piece of nonsense. Someone needs to learn how to spell too. :-)

So just ignore Takunya and Comical Mabhiza, and let these facts speak for themselves.

Thank you for your time.

Author: alexweir1949
Wed Oct 22 10:03:41 2008

A third election using a voting system which cannot be frauded will consign mugabe and zanupf to the dustbin of history. But the west does not want. Mr alex weir. Harare

Author: awt_independent
Wed Oct 22 10:22:29 2008

Whatever.

Author: bhodlumlilo gt
Wed Oct 22 12:40:15 2008

Mabhiza and Tukunya ndebvu are jounalists at The Herald hired by Ari Ben Manashe to spearhead a hate campaign against Morgan Tsangirayi. Maiti maka hwanda Madinga?

Author: takunya_ndebvu
Wed Oct 22 17:20:36 2008

Gt, Ari Ben Manashe was an assassin hired by Tsvangirai, in person, to kill President Mugabe. You think we have forgotten? We do not have short memories like stooges in the MDC. Besides Tsvangirai himselft admitted in court that he hired Manashe. The fact that he was acquitted on a technicality does not mean he did not do it. Tsvangirai is a murderer who killed freedom fighters during the war. He is a murderer who continues to cause death and suffering to the people of Zimbabwe through the sanctions he campaigned for. No amount of propaganda from ANY quota whatsoever will erase that from the people of Zimbabwe. WE FORGIVE BUT WE DO NOT FORGET!!!

Author: bhodlumlilo gt
Wed Oct 22 12:53:58 2008

In a speech in Washington Tuesday, Zuma said Zimbabwe's government is hindering the talks. "Now you cannot have this kind of a situation when you are dealing with such an important matter. One of the very key figures cannot attend because he does not have a passport. I think that sounds weird," he said. At least Zuma has been quick to identify the source of the problem. ZANU PF is not a serious party that can run effectively a country like Zimbabwe it’s a wonder how we survived for 28 years. Is it that we relied more on pre-independence resources or the will of God? I am sure this why the country is almost at a standstill.

Author: mancam_28
Wed Oct 22 14:03:24 2008

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Author: takunya_ndebvu
Wed Oct 22 17:29:33 2008

Mancam_28, Day dreaming again!!! I personally await that day and see who will come up TOPS!!!!

Author: mancam_28
Wed Oct 22 17:56:54 2008

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Author: bhodlumlilo gt
Wed Oct 22 17:44:28 2008

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Author: A Talking Shop
Wed Oct 22 18:35:50 2008

Mugabe and Museveni are kindred brothers. If you like Mugabe you will like Museveni even better and vice versa. They are the modern poster children of what corrupt African political dictatorship is. How they meet to forge an economic alliance when they are stealing every election imaginable doesn't make any sense. They cannot be elections thieves and not be economic thieves too. This is not the first time these talking shops have been organised, in fact they are done routinely held and, of course, nothing of substance ever came out of their deliberations. In this instance it is an excuse for Museveni and his cohorts to embezzle public funds as they did when Uganda hosted the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting last year. The Ugandan taxpayer is always left with a hefty bill to foot. It is time to replace both Mugabe and Museveni as (mis)leaders of Zimbabwe and Uganda respectively.

Author: afric35
Thu Oct 23 11:43:06 2008

EU governments initially wanted to toughen sanctions against Mugabe and his inner circle on September 15, but postponed their decision after the signing of the unity government deal the same day.

Current EU sanctions include a ban on Mugabe, his wife, ministers, most of his military chiefs and officials in his government from entering the EU and an arms embargo on Zimbabwe.

The EU sanctions also call for the severing of ties with businesses linked to the Zimbabwean president.

The EU foreign ministers also reiterated their concern at the deteriorating humanitarian situation in Zimbabwe and noted that the European Commission was providing an additional 10 million euros in aid to Zimbabwe.

Anyone who supports Mugabe and his regime well read this closely and see where the sanctions are placed....




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