This is childish. Cholera is spreading throughout the country thanks to the collapse of health services and untreated water is the only option after Zinwa took the delivery of water out of the hands of local government. Now Mugabe's mouthpiece suggests that the fault lies with the local mayor and not central goverment. Thankfully the electorate is far too intelligent to not see through such immature politics.

Katz, you are absolutely right the problem of cholera in Zimbabwe is due to chemical shortages to treat drinking water and sewage in Zimbabwe. President Mugabe has failed to procure chemicals from abroad and blocs those NGO and international agencies who would help.

This limited information from the Herald newspaper, a government paper, indicates that Zimbabwe is clearly in deep problems. The Herald is only scratching the surface, due to censorship. This yet again is a remind that the people of Zimbabwe are suffering and each day is a struggle for survival.

Mugabe must be removed from power ASAP, before a blood bath and before total break down of society takes place.

Kazt and Phiri, You are both right that the problem of water in Harare, and indeed the whole country is as a result of shortage of chemicals. However, you are absolutely wrong on the cause of this shortage. Tsvangirai, first and foremost, is to blame for the shortage of forex which could have been used to buy chemicals.

He is the one who called for sanctions and these sanctions are the ones which have resulted in us being unable to secure enough forex for all the needs of the country and not only chemicals. Had he not called for sanctions, we would be self providing as we are very capable of meeting our needs with the resources we have.

Zimbabweans are indeed "suffering and each day is a struggle for survival" simply because of one person - Tsvangirai. It is him and him alone who has to be liable for the suffering of the Zimbabwean people. We used to trade freely and were able to get enough forex but now, as a result of the sanctions that Tsvangirai called for, we cannot trade freely with the outside world. We have never begged anyone for assistance, NGOs included. We have worked, as equals, with those who wanted to do business with us and this policy has not changed.

Today, those countries and individuals who want to do business with us are threatened by Britain and USA and hence have had to stay back. ALL because of Tsvangirai. Do not tell me the usual denials that Tsvangirai did not call for sanctions because he did, not once, but many times. The IMF and World Bank which used to provide credit lines are no longer doing so because America and Britain are blocking all of these channels. UN agencies which provide same have also been threaned by the same bullies. But the issues is that these institutions are not American or British so there is no reason why the two regimes should stop them from doing business with us.

President Mugabe has never blocked anyone who wants to provide these chemicals. What the govt has said, and which it will continue to say, is that those NGOs which intend on interferring with our internal affairs will never be allowed to operate in our country. It is as simple as all that. Those NGOs that are into humanitarian work have never been banned and will never be. You should therefore not extend our propaganda to saying such stupid nonsense.

As for your desire to remove the President violently, well, we are eagerly awaiting that day. But plse you, yourselves, should partake in that uprising and not direct from the terraces. We want to see amadhodha sibili. However, it is worth mentioning that war is not a walk in the park. If only you could see and think of how devastating this monister called WAR is, you would not say what you are saying. Take a look at DRCongo and see how people are suffering and dying from this monister, but if you insist Hende choo!!!

I am happy to tell you that, after thinking seriously about starting a war, and when you are fully convinced that you want to go for it, then come and we will be waiting for you. I, for one, am more that prepared to defend the President Mugabe, the country, the masses of the people and the revolution.

We are fully aware that MDC has always wanted to gain, by force of arms, what it failed to gain through the ballot. So it will not be a surprise to hear that they have secured training bases in some countries for the start of an insurgency war in Zimbabwe. It will also not be a surprise to hear that Britain has offered the MDC the more than one thousand Zimbabweans in its army, who are ready to be deployed when the insurgency war starts, for this purpose.

We are therefore more than prepared to meet them and the two of you, (and if you want you can also invite Prem and Awt_independent) on the battle field.

Up to 51 now Takunya, keep up the good work!

Please ignore any comments from Takunya and Comical Mabhiza. The more irrational nonsense they speak, the longer the list grows and the clearer it becomes how idiotic they are. Here are some facts (and you cant argue with facts!) why..

1) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza work for the Herald, are paid by the ZANU PF to spread propaganda and lies, and to twist the truth in the ZANU PF's favor on the internet.

2) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza are one and the same person.

3) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza have stated that Mugabe is the most democratic leader in Africa. Seriously!

4) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza have stated that "in a bid to tarnish the image of Zanu pf, MDC went on a killing spree and murderered 130 MDC and Zanu pf supporters in the process."

5) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe there were " over 200 CIA operatives criss-crossing the country during the elections."

6) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe "Even the British are not happy with Tsvangirai's leaning towards the Americans when it was their (regime change) project in the first place.

7) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that "Prem and Awt_independent, Phiri … are hired by the MDC establishment. Infact they are the brains in MDC hence are the ones strategising attacks on the Zimbabwean people be it via violence or sanctions." So now I work for the CIA, MI5 (see below) and the MDC.

8) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that war veterans and police officers should be allowed to bar the MDC from distributing food to starving orphans.

9) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that freedom of speech should not exist in Zimbabwe and newspaper editors should be monitored to ensure they subscribe to the Zanu PF government's policies.

10) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that the US and Britain have openly stated that they are working with Zimbabwean journalists for "illegal regime change"

11) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe the west "created the HIV virus and injected it into the African people. They then turned around and alleged that HIV originated in Africa"

12) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe the MDC has a "dictatorial leader who does not allow alternative voices". Rather ironic that one.

13) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza both support the use of violence, murder, rape and torture by Mugabe against the people of Zimbabwe.

14) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza both believe that Bush is responsible for atrocities in Iraq, and this justifies Mugabe's atrocities in Zimbabwe, including the genocide of 20,000 Ndebele people and the murders of over 100 MDC supporters during this years elections.

15) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because none of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

16) If you say anything against Mugabe, Takunya and Comical Mabhiza will say that you are paid by the CIA and MI5 to write here.

17) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza have stated that "Tsvangirai appeared on BBC Hardtalk programme and asked for the cutting of electricity, trade and transport links". The episode of hard talk is available here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv-Zs1V7j-U. And not once does Tsvangirai call for sanctions of any type.

18) The CIA does not pay me. If they do, please give them my bank account details, all cards accepted. :-)

19) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza will also resort to childish name calling when they have no factual evidence based argument.

20) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza both believe that Tsvangirai called for sanctions against the people of Mugabe.

21) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because non of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

22) Tsvangirai never called for sanctions against the people of Zimbabwe.

23) When confronted and asked for evidence of this, Takunya and Comical Mabhiza have none.

24) The Sanctions faced by Zimbabwe are not against the people of Zimbabwe.

25) The Sanctions faced by Zimbabwe are only against the government and its ministers, and 4 companies, including one that makes military uniforms.

26) None of these Sanctions are faced by the people of Zimbabwe.

27) Tsvangirai is not responsible for these sanctions.

28) If Tsvangirai did not exist, there would still be sanctions on Zimbabwe (as described above).

29) Therefore Tsvangirai is 100% independent of Zimbabwe being sanctioned as above.

30) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because non of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

31) Biti and Ncube, and Tsvangirai had no input into the drafting of the American sanctions bill.

32) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe the west wants to recolonise Zimbabwe.

33) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe the west wants to invade Zimbabwe.

34) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because non of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

35) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe the west wants to poison aid and kill Zimbabweans.

36) Tsvangirai has never denied aid to the Zimbabwean people, only Mugabe has done this.

37) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because non of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

38) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that Zimbabwe only has partial independence and that the fight against colonialism still goes on.

39) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that Tsvangirai called for sanctions whilst being interviewed on BBC HardTalk in 2000.

40) Tsvangirai never appeared on BBC HardTalk in 2000. More lies.

41) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that the British want to bomb Zimbabwe.

42) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that the west wants to inject AIDS into aid to give to the people of Zimbabwe.

43) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that west want to destabilize Zimbabwe and "make it ungovernable for eventual American and British takeover just like in Iraq and Afghanistan."

44) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that Tsvangirai didn’t attend the meeting of SADC heads in Swaziland because he refused to go, and that he had a valid passport tor travel. This is after the Zim government clearly stated that Tsvangirai wasn’t issued a passport because there was no paper to make passports due to paper being under sanction.

45) Paper is not under any type of sanction.

46) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that Zimbabwe does not need any outside help.

47) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that Bush is tainting Genetically Modified Foods with Aids and delivering it to Zimbabwe. Is this even possible?

48) Takunya and comical Mabhiza believe that Tsvangirai boycotted the Swaziland summet in favour of a round of golf.

49) Takunya and comical Mabhiza believe the MDC have secured training bases in some countries for the start of an insurgency war in Zimbabwe.

50) Takunya and comical Mabhiza believe that Britain has offered the MDC "the more than one thousand Zimbabweans in its army, who are ready to be deployed when the insurgency war starts, for this purpose."

51) For saying these things, Takunya and Mabhiza have tried to discredit me by saying that "You have supported the American war on Iraq and Afghanistan. You have supported the torture of suspected terrorists by the CIA as it practises its extraordinary randition around the world. You have supported the rape of women and girls by the American soldiers many times. You have supported the use of chemical weapons on civilians in Vietnam many times on this forum. You are a CIA agent. You have been exposed as a bitter former white commercial farmer who got recruted by the CIA. You are totally against the land reform do not lie. You were part of the killing machinary that massacred our comrades at Chimoio, Nyadzonya, Mkushi etc."

All of this is simply propaganda made up by Takunya and Mabhiza to discredit what I say in my posts. And obvious as such to everyone with a brain. And I wouldnt be campaigning so strongly for the people of Zimbabwe who are subject to such practices at the hands of the Butcher of Harare if any of this were true. Water off a ducks back to me though.

PS did everyone spot the 4 spelling mistakes in that piece of nonsense. Someone needs to learn how to spell too. :-)

So just ignore Takunya and Comical Mabhiza, and let these facts speak for themselves.

Thank you for your time

Takunya, Tsvangirai is not the President of Zimbabwe. Why not put the blame on the current illegal President Robert Mugabe!

Takunya, for a change have a HEART for the millions of Zimbabweans now facing starvation, disease, HIV/AIDS (without medicine). Life has gotten a lot worse. Look around Zimbabwe...Botswana, South Africa, Mozambique, Zambia, Namibia and Angola all have changed their liberation hero Presidentsw. For the most part our neigbors are doing fine, without them. Zimbabwe will do fine without Mugabe or Zanu-pf in power.

Mugabe is seriously brain washing you.....

Phiri, I am fully conscious of the suffering that the people of Zimbabwe (I included) are going through and this is why I have taken it upon myself (at great risk to my life from thugs in the MDC) to inform Zimbabweans of where their suffering is emanating from.

Zimbabweans are fully aware of the fact that Tsvangirai has fought tooth and nails in protecting the interests of imperialists. Today they also can see him swinging with McGee while they suffer under the sanctions that he called for. They also have seen and read McGee's interviews and articles where upon he brags about the bitting of the sanctions that his country has imposed on them.

Therefore, my primary constituency is the Zimbabwe people and not those who frequent AllAfrica.com as your friend Kazt is suggesting. And I am fully aware that the people of Zimbabwe, from the educational opportunities provided by President Mugabe since 1980, are more intelligent than me and can therefore see that what I am giving them is information and not propaganda unlike you, Kazt, Prem, Awt_independent and all the others who celebrate the suffering of our people.

As for what you said that Zimbabwe will be "fine without Mugabe or Zanu-pf in power" well, I think I will only entertain being ruled by a sellout in my dreams. In real life, Zanu pf is a revolutionary party and is the party of the future, hence, anything else will be a curse to the people of Zimbabwe.

President Mugabe is just human like you and me and will one day move to the next world and when that happens I am sure all Zimbabweans from all walks of life will celebrate the life of a revolutionary who has worked, his entire life, for the ordinary Zimbabwean. Until that happens, President Mugabe is our choice of President and should be allowed to fulfil what he has set out to do for the Zimbabwean people. He has a vision that will outlive all of us and will therefore be celebrated by generations to come.

But meanwhile I shadder to think of the President being replaced by a person like Tsvangirai. Tsvangirai should never be allowed to rule Zimbabwe. Anyone else can take the baton-stick but not Tsvangirai who has a history of selling out, who has called for sanctions and, who is celebrating the suffering and the dying of the Zimbabwean people. A big NO.

Takunya, you are too pre-occupied with the western world and what the US ambassodor is doing in Harare. The truth of the matter is the western world is now supplying the bulk of humanitarian supplies in Zimbabwe. Even, when the Zimbabwe gov't is blocking aid to the need in Zimbabwe.

Takunya, you fail to acknowledge, like Robert Mugabe, that Tsvangirai won the first real democratically held elections in Zimbabwe. Your comment that Mugabe is a legimate president is your own illusion. The truth is Mugabe is an elligitimate leader of Zimbabwe.

Even I have had misgiving's about Tsvangirai, but the people of Zimbabwe are behind him and we now must all support the people's choice - Tsvangirai. Tsvangirai is no stoog of the western world, he is merely trying to lead the majority of Zimbabweans who elected him President. It is not true that Zimbabwe occupies major newspapers in the Western world. The major news from Zimbabwe, is that people are suffering. The Methodists, Lutherans, Catholics in the west are busy shipping food supplies to Zimbabwe, for the suffering...Mugabe must go now..not until he dies...

Phiri, You seem to be a confused cockroach. You cannot distiguish between providing humanitarian supplies and the desire by imperialists to remain in control of our resources and to remain drivers of our economy. You also are confusing food supplied by churches with the desire by Britain and America to keep us under subjugation. Churches are GOD's institutions and should never be confused with imperialists and should also never be classified as western, eastern, northern, southern or central because of their location or origin.

When they supply food to any part of the world, churches are not doing so on behalf of western imperialist governments. The two are not synonymous but if they are I am still to hear them acknowledging that they are doing the bidding for imperialiasts. Therefore, if your imperialist friends, who created the problem in the first place, come to us pretending to be saviours, the govt will block them and not the Lutherans, Methodists, and Catholics you mentioned.

I will never acknowledge a lie however many times it is said. Tsvangirai did not win the March 29 elections, he got more votes, SIMPLE, which necessitated a re-run and which, after being advised by the CIA and McGee, he chickened out of. McGee thought, because of the suffering he had caused the Zimbabwean people, they would be easily to sway, but alas this was not to be and the assessments from his multitude of CIA agents, masquerading as aid workers, in the country has failed dismally to predict the situation in Zimbabwe just like his predecessor, Dell. Tsvangirai fell for the trap and now he is a loser that he has always been from childhood.

It is interesting to note that you had misgivings about Tsvangirai. What were these misgivings and how have they been cleared off? On my part, until he owns up to his negativity towards anything Zimbabwean, until he stops celebrating the suffering of Zimbabweans, until he acknowledges that he called for sanctions against the people of Zimbabwe and until he stops peddling lies about people being killed for political reasons when that is not true, I will never forgive him.

However, I have no problems when anyone pointing out any violence perpetrated against the opposition and conversely pointing out the same on ruling party supporters. Such a person will have my full support and backing and I am more than ready to team up with that individual to stop violence (in a very small way) on either side.

The issue is not whether Zimbabwe occupies major newspapers in the west or not. The issue is Zimbabwe occupies the corridors of the CIA, MI5, Pentagon and that is what we are worried about as Zimbabweans. They have set out an agenda of regime change and intend on fulfilling it. That is what we are fighting and will continue to fight against to the bitter end.

Takunya, you make it really easy for us to see what a fool you are. I thank you for that.

Cde Ndebvu - you seem to think that copious amounts of words and the repetition of the same lies will eventually translate into some sort of truth as you see the world. This is the same crude tactic practised by zanu-pf. Unfortunately for you, the people who frequent this web site are far too intelligent for that liitle subterfuge to work. The fact is a fool you are and a fool you will remain.

Takunya, this summit being set up in South Africa which will include Mr Tsvangirai, is it being set up by the West? All the African leaders taking part, including those of South Africa and of course butcher Mugabe, are they acting on the orders of the west? So if Mr Tsvangirai was such a traitor to his country and being propped up by the west as you say, why are the African leaders wanting him to attend and be part of a Zimbabwe unity government? why? There is no logic in what you say. Are you not embarrassed by the dribble you write?

Yes "dribble" because you need to wake up.