Author: William Wilkins (wilkinsmedia.com)
Sun Nov 16 03:07:55 2008

As an answer to your question, why does the United States need intervening now:

Capitalism is a great concept. But that concept can only prosper and grow when all foundational and infrastructure elements are in place- this is the ticket price into the game. The United States only endorses capitalism because the United States has all of the elements, in many redundant ways, to harvest the grapes of capitalism.

By telling other countries that they simply cannot play due to lack of these foundational elements, is to motivate those countries to decry capitalism based on 'their position'. In other words, the U.S. is simply capitalizing on an unfair advantage.

But why the intervention? In your article you did, in fact, mention the activities of the neo-cons. For fairness sake, let us speak specifically about the 'Bush neo-cons'. These people do not care about people who are at a disadvantage in the capital markets. They care only about themselves- period.

These 'particular' neo-cons have gained power by influencing the less intelligent of the our society, compelling these lesser intellects to vote against themselves. But who cares? These neo-cons only care about themselves.

These attitudes went over-board, and became the defining mantra: 'Our Right To Just Take It'. What they did not anticipate was the fact that this was not a social movement, but a propaganda movement. That fact meant that the lesser of American intellects would soon feel the pinch of reality- that has happened, hence the need for intervention, and the removal of neo-cons from power.

The capital machine is just that- A Machine. And every machine must be tuned and maintained, or it will fail. The neo-cons felt so strongly that the machine never needed maintenance, and that they could simply push the machine non-stop to it's limit, in greedy efforts to enrich themselves.

The real lesson, clearly learned, is that Americans must vote with intellect, not with wishful greed, to place in power people who will manage and maintain the American capital machinery responsibly.

Bill Wilkins

Author: michel-albert9
Mon Nov 17 00:03:29 2008

Capitalism is a great concept but also a danger when it can only more benefit lobbies in the western countries and America. Read the following: Conflicts in central Africa will not be resolved by dividing DRCongo With more than 6,000,000 people dead between Mai 1997 and November 2008 there still no hope for peace, nor significant effort for solution in DRCongo’s conflict despite the presence of 17,000 UN peacekeepers in the region. The international community forces are not able to stop the rebels in a “Machiavellian attitude” while proposing different forms of a so-called peace process to end up in suggesting “the division of the big Congo” into small countries to help Western and American lobbies to easily loot and plunder all the natural resources for the benefit of “their own businesses”. Everyone knows that there is no real conflict in the eastern DRCongo region as long as Joseph Kabila(DRC president), Kagame(Rwanda president) and Kunda Bantware(Eastern DRC rebel) are close friends, all Tutsi and sharing same ideology. They all support the Tutsi tribe to the detrimental effect of disturbing the entire region and causing a chaotic situation in which 50,000 people are dying every month either directly or indirectly from the so-called war. This Tutsi plot has caused poverty, hanger, malnutrition, diseases, disorganisation, and lack of hope, trust and confidence within the entire community. This conflict reality is so obvious when no-one can understand how a foreign country; 100 times less bigger than DRCongo, can always attack and not expect a reply? UN troops(their French acronym: MONUC) have been unable to stop Kunda rebels in several occasions but can only control the population commotion when standing against Kabila’s power. This seems to be the main reason of their presence. Today’s democracy is fighting against terrorism, discrimination, racism...amongst human communities while promoting cohesion, equal opportunity, human rights...meanwhile Kunda Bantware rebellion is promoting invasion, killings, kidnapping, rape, children abuse, hatred, tribalism...and still have enough argument to defend their action without being stopped or punished. This is amazing. DRCongo inhabitants are human beings and cannot be exterminated in the eyes of the international community without significant move and action being taken against these atrocities. When 800,000 people died in Rwanda in 1994, because of tribal and political fighting, the international community reacted late and called it a “genocide”. Now that more than 6,000,000 have died in a similar conflict no-one is ready to qualify this act a “genocide”. But when looking at the span of the woe inflicted by rebels and business groups we still believe that powerful countries such as America, Great Britain, France...have seen this and will comfort people of DRCongo with a very strong intervention and support to end this misery. This is a war for minerals like coltan (used in mobiles phone and many electronic equipments), uranium, gold, diamond etc..that are in DRCongo land and has nothing to do with DRCongo division for good control. It is a business people activity for selfish enrichment and not for any human welfare purpose. Even though Congolese minerals are really needed by industrial businesses around the world, we can still find other ways for good cooperation and stop the killings. We hope the Lord almighty is listening to our cry and will intervene in our favour by Jesus Christ the saviour, amen!

THE CONGOLESE COALITION GROUP

Author: Xania
Sun Nov 16 12:14:56 2008

Danladi's piece is a mark off the target.

Author: karengmom
Sun Nov 16 13:45:19 2008

can you email me some-thing so I can learn more thank you karen

Author: daveboyle
Mon Nov 17 07:23:45 2008

All Africa American Financial Crisis and the Death of Capitalism By Kabiru Danladi

I can appreciate Mr. Danladi’s difficulty in deciding on a caption for his very well written essay. The subject is so fraught with difficulty that to attempt an analysis seems almost impertinent. And, one may ask, what is being analyzed? The American Empire? Democracy? “Liberal School”? Capitalism? One must find ones way through a virtual maze to even approach the problem. As a retired engineer and not an economist I feel totally inadequate to try to offer any explanation for the collapse of the financial markets. Nevertheless, I will offer my two cents worth.

Some time before Isaac Asimov delivered his “funeral march” on the death of Capitalism, Oswald Spengler penned his Decline of The West. In his far reaching analysis of the rise and fall of cultures, Spengler predicted the fall of the power of money. He predicted that money would be replaced by raw power-a new Caesar. I certainly do not want to endorse or evade such an eventuality. However, it seems clear that in this apparent demise of Western Culture, the power of money is in its death throws.

The power of money is based on wide spread stupidity. This stupidity has been fostered by a culture that values money over everything. The generation of this culture is not accidental, but carefully planned. The orchestration of this culture began with the Industrial Revolution, and the quickly following use of Marketing. More goods were produced than could be sold. Marketing convinced consumers that they needed the excess products, and industry thrived. Since these early days, growth of the market has been fundamental to the survival of Capitalism. Growth is the fuel of Capitalism. It has today its own cliché, “Growing the Economy”. Such a charming biological reference is almost amusing, and dates back at least to Goethe. Of course, the “growth” is illusory. People buying nonsense they don’t need cannot be perpetuated indefinitely.

All of the discussion of the Bush administration and the Neo-cons, and the lies, and the squandering of vast sums of money, and the unending wars purposely created by the Neo-cons is now ancient history. It cannot be undone (as was intended by the Neo-cons). They won. They have destroyed Democracy in America. They may yet get their dreamed of Strong Man. Oh, if only enough people had the intelligence to understand Nietzsche’s Ecce Homo!

However, and this is the time for a deep breath. It seems to me that there is probably something mathematically certain about the financial collapse generated in the U.S. of A. This no doubt also obtains insofar as cultures collapse as well. It may be a simple result of the Fractal Geometry of Growth, or the growth of Capitalism in this instance! The system keeps regenerating, over and over again, until it dissipates itself, essentially disappearing into thin air! This could also be an explanation for the collapse of the Russian empire, and many other endeavors based on growth. The growth also may produce genetic modifications over time which cannot be predicted. This is somewhat analogous to the growth of cancers. Apparently predictable, but beyond our current ability to duplicate.

Of course, one could ask, how could this all occur at the same time in so many different cultures? Well, the cultures are not so different after all. They are all tightly interwoven, as far as their economies are concerned. Even a culture as different as China is from the U.S.A. has adopted the same methods of making money. The difference is only in the degree of slavery in use. So, who knows how things will fall out this time? It may be that we are on the verge of very tumultuous times in the world!

I hope I have delivered my two cents worth!

David Boyle, USA

Author: rckstrdave
Mon Nov 17 07:54:35 2008

The fall of the American empire is a slow tumble, in process now for several decades. Doubtless, powerful positions were handed over to evil madmen, bent on destruction and greed. However, as an American, I can hardly lay the blame solely on the moral anemia of our leaders, elected or otherwise. The American people willfully obscured the truths right in front of their eyes. They continued to squander what little real wealth they had on useless luxury. Everyone chased the dream of capitalist abundance, aware that "money can't buy happiness" but nevertheless totally convinced that the American Dream was right and good to spend one's life pursuing. No one questioned where the wealth comes from (China), or that it might run short some day (today). Everyone only wanted their piece of the dream, but now we are beginning to wake up to the reality.

Interesting, too, the emphasis on the neo-con movement in non-U.S. media. They are scarcely mentioned in the states. Some Americans have heard the term, but most have no idea who it refers to and what they believe, even though they run the country. The self imposed ignorance can be stunning, but intellect and education are scorned by the ruling elite, and the under classes are quick to emulate and parrot their masters.




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