Gday Gents I personnaly hve a strong flings about Zimbbwe's attitudes even outside country. This is reflecting the temperature inside Zimbabwe. Mugabe mast go, he is not the owner of the country besides God.. there is no other person to claim that he owns people/ what a shame. ko kunhara mudhara nhaii..

Voices from Paris should be careful: Mugabe never claimed ownership of the peoples of Zimbabwe. Now, should one want to give him such a gruesome gift, Iwould guess that as a gentleman of exquisite taste, he'll turn it down as a vile assault on the dignity of humanity.

As for Botswana, this one baffles me: what is the cash value of Botswana holding its "recognition"? What happened to the doctrine of "non-interference"? Or, the doctrine, to be blunt about it, "mind your own business"?

Cheers.

Jallohlaw, people should be allowed to express their own feelings about Zimbabwe both negative and positive. As a Zimbabwean, I have no problems for our neighbours to say something about Zimbabwe when they see refugees streaming in their own country, cholera in Zimbabwe, blooded opposition members etc. Should they just mind their own business! I think not.

What Batswana are saying about us should motive us to do better! But what I see is scape goating our neighbours, accusing the west every day and the usual Mugabe propaganda. Change must come to Zimbabwe now.

In conformance with the prejudices of "modernity," please keep God out of this human all too human mano mano between the proven fighter, Cdr. MUGABE and the dude with the fastest legs in Africa enire, MT.

Cheers.

If all the Southern African leaders were united in not recognizing the Mugabe government a long time ago, then Mugabe would be out of power and Zimbabwe would be prospering by now and its people would not be starving.

But, except for Botswana, the other "leaders" do not care if their people starve, as long as they can also do a Mugabe and stay in power as long as possible, so that their own tiny self-gratifying little lives are satisfied with every pleasure.

If all the Southern African leaders were united in not recognizing the Mugabe government a long time ago, then Mugabe would be out of power and Zimbabwe would be prospering by now and its people would not be starving.

But, except for Botswana, the other "leaders" do not care if their people starve, as long as they can also do a Mugabe and stay in power as long as possible, so that their own tiny self-gratifying little lives are satisfied with their grubby little pleasures.

Botswana are the only ones taking a stand for what is right. the rest of Southern Africa need to follow their lead otherwise they are just condemning the good people of Zimbabwe to more beatings and poverty. i think all the leaders in the area know that he must go they just dont want to be the one to stand up and say it. Credit to Botswana for showing strength in the face of the Evil Mugarbage.

Please watch your lexicon. You can express your disdain for the fighter Mugabe without putting him in the garabage can. That is called verbal assault, and it is, under these circumstances, undue.

I reiterate: Botswana has no business in the business of Zimbabwe; after all, who does not know how dearly the Bots love the West? Ergo: Mugabe must be evil.

In my opinion, the real evil incarnate is the obscurantist MT; and is it any surprise that he is the center of theoretic0-practical obscurantism, Paris, to CONSTITUTE a cabinet, someone suggested?

Imagine the horror: the constitution of a cabinet in the camp of those who said nothing when Smith was doing it to Mugabe and his fighters in the "Bush," and to the innocent Zimbos.

I personally find MT to be an inept politician, sired in the empty, contentless rhetoric of what policy analysts call " issue rhetoric," rumping IN the oceans of tsumanis of equivocal and affective lexemes: "capitalism," "rule of the people," bla, bla, bla.

Allez, then to Paris, and stay put there, for God's sake.

jallohlaw! You better save your garbage for Mugabe's thugs!

Botswana is right and we all should congratulate the leadership there! Had we got most SADC govts. with similar guts to side the the majority will of the people, today Zimbos would have been spared the humiliation of famine!

Shame on people like jallohlaw who praises murderers, devils, banana republic lunatics like Mugabe!

Very impressing conditionality from tiny Bots! I assume these gandanga freedom fighters are scared to the bone with this six months ultimatum. Khama gvt is historically naïve, unquestionably dump politically, amazingly partisan on our internal politics but luridly empty minded and amusingly childish. They are political toddlers who must consult my 12 yr old daughter on such matters political. Solutions to Zimbabwe’s economic crisis are deeply routed in international finance institutions illegally controlled by UK/EU/US. The war against English supremacy will not end up till the monarchy is crushed to pieces. Since WW2 when the demise of the British establishment took route, there was never such a precedent that an African leader can stand against British illegal regime change for more than a decade. Those assassinations of pan Africanist leaders by the west may have gone without much say but the dream for africa to destroy its critical enemy for 500 years lives on because of Mugabe today. The suffering of the people in concordance with their internal non-volatile approach to solutions express deep understanding of their historical-political problems more than our sister country Botswana. We know the route of our suffering and please we are tired of being fed junk about us. Tony Blair left office foisting us with such gibberish about Mugabe and we did not take it to the streets. For Bots to keep on talking of Mugabe without being able to pronounce how skewed the economic trade against Zimbabwe has been managed by the west qualifies them to political garbage.

Lunatic prem, what gives you the courage to say one out of fifteen SADC countries is right, this shows how insane you are.Khama is just making useless noises on behalf of his uncles in UK

Kindly, respectfully, tender the names of Cdr. MUGABE'S "thugs."

Highest Considerations.

As a rule, I don't respond to cries of emotional immaturity, but in this case, I must riposte: Shame on the supporters of the spineless MT and his archaic, obscurantist, neo-imperial, nihilistic---Nietzsche's last men--- supporters in the moribund reactionary circles in the land where the sun goes down, the "West" AND IN ZIMBABWE!

Cheers from planet pathos.

A boneheaded post that deserves no response from me. When you start reasoning, perhaps I'll engage you, depending on the fecundity of your reasoning.

Cheers.

jallohlaw Wed Nov 19 12:03:19 2008 - Let me tell you who ever you are Zimbabweans were responsible for executing the war of liberation. Dont talk as though people fought the war because of Mugabe. May I remind you that its upto Zimbabweans to select a leader of their choice. You have no mandate to dictate who Zimbabweans should support. His tenure expired 20 years ago. Dont waste your time writing garbage.

And your construal of "garbage"? You are of course free to characterize my opus anyway you wish, for I don't give a rat's tail about someone who abrogates the jurisdictional power of a whole people. Moroever, I will not dignify your boneheaded characterization with another contentless invective, for that would make both of us fools, and one less fool in Africa is always good for a healthy intellectual meal.

Seriously, where is your evidence that Mugabe's "mandate" has "expired"? You've got a citation from the code of mandates for that proposition?

And, where is your evidence that Mugabe is a "murderer" and bla, bla, bla?

Please, no rhetorical topoi: just the facts, maam, as the Yanks put it. Your affect is your drama; you deal with it, although, once in a while, I don't mind a sideshow of affective manifestation in likes and dislikes, which, as every kid knows, are a dime a dozen.

And, may I reiterate that the puppets of the West in Botswana ought to mind their business; stay out of the business of another sovereign state. That, by the way, is public international law 101.

To the fellas supra, I assert: if you don't like Mugabe, vote him out! Or, do you have another solution, which you dare not assert in this site?

And I ain't no supporter of Mugabe either, for I don't support political leaders, if you feel me.

Highest Considerations and Kind Felicitations.

Exactly gt. very well said. jallshallow can follow his evil leader for all most of us care as we know they will both end up in the fiery pits of hell.

Here is some more garbage for YOU, Mr. Garbage detector.

Deny that Mugabe fought the racist Smith and his Western tails; after you have denied that, deny that Mugabe did not win the last election; after you deny that, affirm that I never stated that Zimbabweans should support Mugabe, and affirm that I merely expressed MY support for Mugabe.

Now, if you have a problem with Mugabe, deal with Mugabe: he is Harare; if, on the other hand, you have a problem with the expression of MY support for Mugabe, sorry dude, ain't nothing you can do about that, at least not on this forum. Get it?

Best Regards.

I suppose Comrade Mugabe was dinning in Paris during the destruction of the racist Rhodesian autocratic and xenophobic state.

Regards.

And, what shouldI offer MT's thugs? Some croissants?

May I also remind you that the sovereign people of Zimbabwe did elect the Iron Man, the brave fighter, Cdr. Mugabe?

Now, who is bucking the will of the people of Zibambwe? MT and his neo-imperialist Western backers, or do you want to deny that he is the darling of reactionary Western circles?

Cdr. Mugabe does not hang out with reactionaries, fifth columnists, darlings of the 'West,' spagetti spined fellows like MT. The comrade has attempted to accomodate his silly claims to power; but no, the dude wants ABSOLUTE POWER, all the while wrapping his real intention with bourgeois unclarified political verbiage in modus verba.

MT is the worst and the most unskilled politician ever sculptured by HE who made man, woman and animal.

Highest Regards.

"Botswana has no business in the business of Zimbabwe" So all the Zimbo's flooding into Botswana arent an issue for the Botswanan government? Once again zero logic from these mugabe supporting fools.

jallshallow, the only one to show that they are inept at what they do is Mugga & his thugs. MT has not had the chance to do anything as a politician because of these criminals.

You say that verbal assault is undue on Mugabe, well guess what i like any normal person hates to see people being Tortured, killed and abused. Starved, raped and stripped of their human rights. So in this case it is due im sorry. Im sure you can take it verbally unlike most other Zimbabweans who have to physically from your maniac you call a leader!

"You can express your disdain for the fighter Mugabe without putting him in the garabage can. That is called verbal assault, and it is, under these circumstances, undue" - this is called verbal diarrhoea.

Botswana is the only country in the southern part of Africa to speak out against Comrade Mugabe. How can you defend him or ZANU-pf when you no longer have a school to train doctors, you no longer have suitable facilities for babies to be born, you no longer have suitable water and thusly have a Cholera epidemic, and 50% of your rural population have no food....Mugabe is evil with a "grandiose sense of self" importance. The current Zimbabwe cannot name one positive accomplishment in the last year....I know I have counted. It is a brutal black on black anarchy that has no respect for its people.......

I stand with will205 which will make you hate me all the more

Mugabe will not step down or respect the will of his people so long as SADC is propping him up. The leaders of SADC don't have the courage to tell the truth to Mugabe. The king is naked, and they must be frank with him and let him know the truth.