Author: fisherperry
Sat Nov 22 07:09:55 2008

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Author: Icho!
Sat Nov 22 08:18:05 2008

Stupid Rhodesian, Zimbabwe has no place for such people, please follow your Ian Smith. We love our Zimbabwe even in times of dire need. Go to England we do not need you

Author: jallohlaw
Mon Nov 24 00:36:25 2008

please don't pollute the crisp and clean Brits with this dude.

Cheers.

Author: awt_independent
Tue Dec 2 13:44:43 2008

blah blah blah

Author: jallohlaw
Mon Nov 24 00:36:55 2008

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Author: will205
Mon Nov 24 03:39:02 2008

@icho

There is no such thing as a stupid Rhodesian, because Rhodesians are renascence people, the same group that facilitated for all the systems which we now call Zimbabwe. On the other side of the spectrum, unless you are part of the “40 thieves” running the show, there is a thing called a dumb Zimbabwean, this is of course that ones that are in denial and still think this Marxist experiment works and Mugabe is some kind of a God or master mind. If you research your history it will tell you Ian was a veteran of the 2nd world war, he fought a much more fierce enemy in Europe, his generation helped save mankind for extermination so how then does a person who fought Hitler become a Racist? Ian only came into Rhodesian politics at 29 and he was instrumental in bringing dialogue with blacks, remember he grew up living with blacks in Selikwe, it was Ian who flew to Zambia at night in 1975 to meet with Kaunda and Nkomo to try and stop the war and build a prosperous country for both blacks and whites. However, it was Mugabe and that Marxist Nyerere who refused to cooperate. If you are allowed into the archives of the Rhodesian Broad Casting (RBC) you will see for yourself that Ian was not a Racist but a true Rhodesian, committed to his country’s fight against Marxism. Remember it was Gen Josiah Tongogara another man from Selukwe that insisted on reconciliation with the Rhodesians, obviously the man died mysteriously. Anywhere to stick to the points Mugabe agreed to reconciliation (please check what reconciliation means) only to renege and remove Rhodesians from the army, police, parliament…etc to which Ian Smith objected and still advised Mugabe against such a move, this is how Mugabe operates. Smith worked with the blacks for as far as possible, he loved people of all colors, being Rhodesians does not mean being white racists; it’s a way of life for those that understand what it was all about. Even if you dare ask Mugabe today he will tell you Ian Smith was not a Racist. Saka brotherman get your facts straight. I hear more racial slurs coming from blacks than from whites. If a person says that they are RHODESIAN it does not mean they white supremacist. I am black and I am a proud Rhodesian, its about one’s freedom to choose what is right and what is wrong. One party state is wrong and this is what Mugabe was trying to impose on people

Author: maricho
Wed Dec 3 13:10:21 2008

Of cours Smith and his Rhodesians were pure racists; but that should not be used as an excuse by Mugabe and his party to practise reverse racism. Two wrongs don't make a good. At least Smith, a white supremist had the guts to handover power to a black man. This is unlike Mugabe who refuses to hand over power to his fellow black brother, Tsvangirai. In fact, Mugabe does not think of handing power to any one including his close handlers like Munangagwa, Joice Mujuru, Chenhamo Chimutengwende etc (while he is still alife). Mugabe is a dictator through and through.

Author: will205
Mon Nov 24 03:40:55 2008

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Author: takunya_ndebvu
Tue Nov 25 11:37:29 2008

@Will205,

I was very disappointed with you when I read your post which is full of racist slur. You seem to have forgotten that there is no such thing as a Rhodesian. Anyone who call themselves Rhodesians are stupid and are dump racist who have no place in Zimbabwe.

Rhodesia and those who brought and imposed it on us represent occupation, oppression, slavery and subjugation and should never be celebrated. Smith and all those before him were the most cruel racists I had ever known in my life.

How can a person who forced people off their land, took everything from them, killed their cattle, goats, dogs, cats and destroyed all their livelihoods be said to have loved and worked with blacks? How can a person who did not allow blacks to vote and participate in national politics, who incarcerated our leaders and killed Herbert Chitepo, Jason Ziyapapa Moyo, Edson Sithole, indiscriminately killed an uncountable number of civilians throughout Zimbabwe, at Chimoio, Tembwe, Nyadzonha, Mkushi, Muchenedzi, Chibabava, and many other places be said to have been tolerant of other races.

How can a person who did not allow blacks to walk in First Street be said to have been tolerant of other races? Blacks found walking in first street were summerarily slapped or spat in their faces by racists whites who were never charged. How can a person who did not allow blacks to drink wine and bottled beer be said to have been non-racist? How can a person who made people work for him for nothing be said to have been non-racist.

During Smith’s rein of terror there was only one secondary school in my home area that had been established by missionaries. His govt did nothing at all for me and people in my area and you tell us that he was a man of the people. Which people are you talking about, if I may ask?

The fact that Smith fought in the 2nd European war (not world war by the way) does not make him my savior or hero. Hitler had nothing to do with Africa in general and Zimbabwe in particular. It was only European war mongers who were going to be affected by that war. What you are saying is like saying that Americans saved us “from extermination” by using chemical and biological weapons (dioxin and agent orange) – weapons of mass destruction - against Vietnamese in its fight against so-called communism. The European War was, therefore, not our war hence had nothing to do with us. PERIOD!! We were only involved by virtue of being slaves of alien monsters from Europe but given a chance no black person would have participated in such a war that was so detached from Africa.

Smith and all the racist Boers who occupied our lands, who still call themselves Rhodesians, were not part of us and will never be and so I will never recognize them as Zimbabweans but as Boers of European extraction who imposed themselves on us and occupied our lands by force of arms, and that includes you Will205, hence should, if we had the choice, all be driven our of Zimbabwe and back to Europe. Zimbabwe has no place for such people. Rhodesia represents everything evil that we see today in Zimbabwe. Had you racist occupiers not come to Africa, our continent would have been a much better place and would have developed faster than now.

If Smith “worked with blacks” then it was sellouts that cooperated with the monstrous occupiers of our lands and were directly responsible for the delay in our liberation. Those you say were meeting with Ian Smith in the dead of the nights, in secret locations, were selling out – they are not different from Nyathi who sold out and killed more than 2 000 of our comrades at Nyadzonha.

Author: will205
Tue Nov 25 18:03:04 2008

@ Ndebvu

Points well taken! In civil wars both sides die you mentioned Chimoio, Nyadzonya...etc HOW come you did not mention innocent civilains murdered during the war, white farmers, black villagers...etc on a 2nd note why did n't you mention Entumbane? I empathize with those poor people that lost their lives there are no different from the Zimbabwean refugees losing their lives in South Africa. Again all systems have flaws and not every Rhodesian was a racist the large majority were people like you and me that sought reconciliation only to find out that Mugabe is a trickster. Amongst your revolutionary heroes HOWCOME you did not mention Tongogara? Did you know anything about his mysterious death? There was a power struggle inside Zanu PF leadership& Zanla, with warring functions we can not blame the Rhodesians alone for deaths of Chitepo, Ziyapapa...etc The power struggle and cleansing continued way after independence. I acknowledge colonial Africa may have had issues but nothing compared to the trouble that these Marxists have brought to our door steps. Zanu has put us back 20 years and if these sagas continue we will be pushed back to were we where before the arrival of the settlers.

Author: takunya_ndebvu
Wed Nov 26 10:59:03 2008

@Will205,

Point of correction, ours was not a civil war but a liberation war to rid the country of occupation. Civil war presupposes that the protagonists are citizens of the same country. Rhodesians are not Zimbabweans and vice versa. One group was of occupiers and enslave masters while the other group was of liberators who wanted and still desire to free itself from oppression, occupation and subjugation.

Secondly, there was no such thing as civilian white farmers throughout the time of occupation - 1890 - 1980 as most if not all of them were part and parcel of the killing machinery that was employed by Smith. They were either police officers or soldiers and were armed by the regime with weapons of war like the FN Rifle, Uzzi and even Nato and that included women who openly moved around with guns over their shoulders ready to kill at the slightest opportunity. Check your archives again and correctly. This was unlike blacks who were indescriminately killed by the Boers and I mentioned them when I said "indiscriminately killed civilians throughout Zimbabwe".

There are no Zimbabweans refugees in South Africa or any other country for that matter. What you are talking about are just a bunch of criminals who are fugitives from the law. Surely, you cannot say that Roy Bennette is a refugee when he is a criminal running away from the law. He is a terrorist. PERIOD.

There was no power struggle in Zanu at the time of Tongogara's death, it only existed in the minds of Rhodesians who tried to use their imagined power struggle to destroy the revolutionary parties of Zanu and Zapu but failed.

What you said in your post about Tongogara is pure hogwash. Tongogara was not killed by anyone but died in a car accident and there are witnesses who can testify to that, if you care to find out. The "mysterious death" you talk of is just a figment of your stupid imagination. Therefore, Tongogara was and remains my hero and I respect and celebrate all that he did for Zimbabwe and its people. These are again some of the machinations you Boers are employing to divide the revolutionary party but you will eventualy fail.

Chitepo and Ziyapapa Moyo were vicitims of Rhodesian assassinations that started in 1890 and claimed the lives of Nehanda, Kaguvi, Lubengula, Chief Chingaira, just to mention these few. A white Rhodesian spy acknowledged planting the bomb that killed Chitepo and hence there is no question of intra-party or inter-party power struggles as having caused the deaths of Chitepo and Moyo.

Twenty years ago Zimbabwe had not achieved 92% literacy rate, had only one university, had not libearted its land from colonial bondage and was not under sanctions. How then could "Zanu ... put us back 20 years" when, out of every five people, two hold a Masters Degree, a Doctorate/PhD? How can we "...be pushed back to were we where before the arrival of the settlers" when Zimbabweans hold sway in the economies of most SADC countries and even beyond?

Will205, you should, therefore, stop day dreaming because what you wish for will never happen as it is just a prophacy of doom that will never materialise. If anything, the day your fellow racist Boers remove their illegal sanctions, we will treble our development in record time.

Author: shushushu
Wed Nov 26 14:36:29 2008

Brother you are deeply deluded to think Zimbabweans hold sway in the rest of SADC, we are actually fed up with Zimbabweans sleeping, prostituting and begging in our streets. Your breathern are even being burned alive in SA. Even rhodisia had sanctions pllaced on it, yet we did not have zimbabeans sleeping in our streets. Pleas it is mugabe not sanctions.

Author: awt_independent
Wed Nov 26 18:49:24 2008

Takunya,

Keep talking, it makes it easier for us all to realise what an idiot you are.

"There are no Zimbabweans refugees in South Africa or any other country for that matter. What you are talking about are just a bunch of criminals who are fugitives from the law."

So there are approximately 4 million criminals that have left Zimbabwe? Must be a really safe and happy place now with all them gone. Are you seriously saying that "out of every five people, two hold a Masters Degree, a Doctorate/PhD?" And you expect us to believe that?

As I said, keep talking, it makes it easy for us all to realise what a fool you are.

Author: awt_independent
Tue Nov 25 19:33:58 2008

PLEASE IGNORE ANY POSTS FROM TAKUNYA_NDEBVU AND MABHIZA. THEY ARE BOTH THE SAME PERSON AND PAID BY THE ZANU PF'S MINISTRY OF INFORMATION (PROPOGANDA DEPARTMENT) TO POST AS MUCH PROPOGANDA ON THE WEB AS POSSIBLE TO PROMOTE THE MURDEROUS AND THEIVING ROBERT MUGABE. IF YOU READ ANY OF HIS POSTS YOU'LL SEE THAT HE MAKES THINGS UP AND CONTINUALLY LIES FOR THIS AIM. HE HAS NO CREDIBILITY WHATSOEVER AND SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. HE WILL CONTINUNALLY CLAIM THAT TSVANGIRAI HAS CALLED FOR SANCTIONS AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF ZIMBABWE. THIS CLAIM IS 100% FALSE AND DESIGNED TO ALIENATE TSVANGIRAI FROM THE MAJORTIY OF THE PEOPLE IN ZIMBABWE THAT SUPPORT HIM. HE HAS NO EVIDENCE OF THIS, AND WILL TRY TO TELL YOU THAT THIS HAPPENED ON BBC HARDTALK. IF YOU LOOK UP TSVANGIRAI'S INTERVIEW ON HARDTALK THROUGH YOUTUBE, YOU WILL SEE THERE ARE NO MENTION OF SANCTIONS AT ALL. IT IS SIMPLY A LIE, LIKE THE REST OF HIS POSTS. HE IS ALSO UNABLE TO NAME A SINGLE SANCTION THAT SITS AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF ZIMBABWE AND HAS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT ANY OF HIS CLAIMS AND LIES BLATANTLY ON A CONSTANT BASIS. HE WILL ALSO CALL ANY PERSON WHO IS AGAINST THE TRYANNY AND GENOCIDAL REIGN OF MUGABE WHO ARGUES WITH HIM ANY NAME UNDER THE SUN IN AN ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT THEM. SO PLEASE DONT WASTE YOUR TIME WITH TAKUNYA, HE IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF WHY YOU SHOULD NEVER ARGUE WITH A (SELF PROFESSED!)IDIOT. HE'LL ONLY BRING YOU DOWN TO HIS LEVEL AND BEAT YOU WITH EXPERINCE. Here are some facts (and you cant argue with facts!) why.. 1) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza work for the Herald, are paid by the ZANU PF to spread propaganda and lies, and to twist the truth in the ZANU PF's favor on the internet.

2) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza are one and the same person.

3) I "killed people and others suffer during slavery. You killed people and made others suffer during colonialism. You are killing people today and making others suffer because they want to have control of their own resources."

3) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza have stated that Mugabe is the most democratic leader in Africa. Seriously!

4) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza have stated that "in a bid to tarnish the image of Zanu pf, MDC went on a killing spree and murderered 130 MDC and Zanu pf supporters in the process."

5) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe there were " over 200 CIA operatives criss-crossing the country during the elections."

6) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe "Even the British are not happy with Tsvangirai's leaning towards the Americans when it was their (regime change) project in the first place.

7) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that "Prem and Awt_independent, Phiri … are hired by the MDC establishment. Infact they are the brains in MDC hence are the ones strategising attacks on the Zimbabwean people be it via violence or sanctions." So now I work for the CIA, MI5 (see below) and the MDC.

8) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that war veterans and police officers should be allowed to bar the MDC from distributing food to starving orphans.

9) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that freedom of speech should not exist in Zimbabwe and newspaper editors should be monitored to ensure they subscribe to the Zanu PF government's policies.

10) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that the US and Britain have openly stated that they are working with Zimbabwean journalists for "illegal regime change"

11) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe the west "created the HIV virus and injeted it into the African people. They then turned around and alleged that HIV originated in Africa"

"virus was created in a lab by some American scientist and injected into selected African families and this is proof enough that their experiments have not ended and this time they are using the HIV virus to exterminate the Africa race."

12) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe the MDC has a "dictatorial leader who does not allow alternative voices". Rather ironic that one.

13) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza both support the use of violence, murder, rape and torture by Mugabe against the people of Zimbabwe.

14) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza both believe that Bush is responsible for atrocities in Iraq, and this justifies Mugabe's atrocities in Zimbabwe, including the genocide of 20,000 Ndebele people and the murders of over 100 MDC supporters during this years elections.

15) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because none of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

16) If you say anything against Mugabe, Takunya and Comical Mabhiza may say that you are paid by the CIA and MI5 to write here.

17) I do not work for the CIA

18) The CIA does not pay me. If they do, please give them my bank account details, all cards accepted. :-)

19) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza will also resort to childish name calling when they have no factual evidence based argument.

20) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza both believe that Tsvangirai called for sanctions against the people of Mugabe.

21) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because non of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

22) Tsvangirai never called for sanctions against the people of Zimbabwe.

23) When confronted and asked for evidence of this, Takunya and Comical Mabhiza have none.

24) The Sanctions faced by Zimbabwe are not against the people of Zimbabwe.

25) The Sanctions faced by Zimbabwe are only against the government and its ministers, and 4 companies, including one that makes military uniforms.

26) None of these Sanctions are faced by the people of Zimbabwe.

27) Tsvangirai is not responsible for these sanctions.

28) If Tsvangirai did not exist, there would still be sanctions on Zimbabwe (as described above).

29) Therefore Tsvangirai is 100% independent of Zimbabwe being sanctioned as above.

30) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because non of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

31) Biti and Ncube, and Tsvangirai had no input into the drafting of the American sanctions bill.

32) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe the west wants to recolonise Zimbabwe.

33) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe the west wants to invade Zimbabwe.

34) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because non of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

35) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe the west wants to poison aid and kill Zimbabweans.

36) Tsvangirai has never denied aid to the Zimbabwean people, only Mugabe has done this.

37) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza should be ignored because non of their posts are truthful and they are always misleading.

38) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that Zimbabwe only has partial independence and that the fight against colonialism still goes on.

39) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that Tsvangirai called for sanctions whilst being interviewed on BBC HardTalk in 2000.

40) Tsvangirai never appeared on BBC HardTalk in 2000. More lies.

41) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that the British want to bomb Zimbabwe.

42) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that the west wants to inject AIDS into aid to give to the people of Zimbabwe.

43) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that west want to destabilize Zimbabwe and "make it ungovernable for eventual American and British takeover just like in Iraq and Afghanistan."

44) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that Tsvangirai didn’t attend the meeting of SADC heads in Swaziland because he refused to go, and that he had a valid passport tor travel. This is after the Zim government clearly stated that Tsvangirai wasn’t issued a passport because there was no paper to make passports due to paper being under sanction.

45) Paper is not under any type of sanction.

46) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that Zimbabwe does not need any outside help.

47) Takunya and Comical Mabhiza believe that Bush is tainting Genetically Modified Foods with Aids and delivering it to Zimbabwe. Is this even possible?

48) Takunya and comical Mabhiza believe that Tsvangirai boycotted the Swaziland summet in favour of a round of golf.

49) For saying these things, Takunya and Mabhiza have tried to discredit me by saying that "You have supported the American war on Iraq and Afghanistan. You have supported the torture of suspected terrorists by the CIA as it practises its extraordinary randition around the world. You have supported the rape of women and girls by the American soldiers many times. You have supported the use of chemical weapons on civilians in Vietnam many times on this forum. You are a CIA agent. You have been exposed as a bitter former white commercial farmer who got recruted by the CIA. You are totally against the land reform do not lie. You were part of the killing machinary that massacred our comrades at Chimoio, Nyadzonya, Mkushi etc."

All of this is simply propaganda made up by Takunya and Mabhiza to discredit what I say in my posts. And obvious as such to everyone with a brain. And I wouldnt be campaigning so strongly for the people of Zimbabwe who are subject to such practices at the hands of the Butcher of Harare if any of this were true. Water off a ducks back to me though.

PS did everyone spot the 4 spelling mistakes in that piece of nonsense. Someone needs to learn how to spell too. :-)

So just ignore Takunya and Comical Mabhiza, and let these facts speak for themselves.

Thank you for your time.

Author: brimasise
Sat Nov 22 15:37:27 2008

It is hard for me to believe that Tsangirai has surrendered to Mugabe. It looks like he likes his new job, but he needs to understand that Mugabe is one smart old politian. Before Tsangirai realises what is really going on, he will find himself in Mugabe's pocket. Mugabe will rule till death, and the people of Zimbabwe will continue to suffer until his last breath. Whatever God Mugabe believes in, that God will never forgive him for mistreating the people of Zimbabwe for so long. Brima sise

Author: takunya_ndebvu
Sat Nov 22 20:22:27 2008

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Author: awt_independent
Sat Nov 22 23:36:44 2008

The question is, was life better for zimbabweans in rhodesian times or now under Mugabe? I guess the a simple calculation of net migration will tell you the answer to that one.

Author: kjrs120
Mon Nov 24 11:41:58 2008

Rhodesia was a beautiful country, well run and fiscally sound but there was that great and horrible disease of colour-bar. If you were white, the sky was the limit whether you were dumb or not. If you were black, just your salary scale alone told you what race you were. How unfair was that? How many whites had 'stupas'? (thumb ID cards) They might as well have branded the black people with numbers on their arms as the natzi did to the Jews. Ian Smith always regarded blacks as well below whites, from inferior schools to inferior housing and of course the lowest wages to make sure that blacks remained at the bottom of the totem pole. Then came Mugabe. What rejoicing because finally everyone was on equal footing. The sky was now the limit for everyone. One could now vote and all you had to do to prosper was apply yourself. WRONG. Colour-bar was now replaced by dictatorship, more oppression and suppression than ever before causing unheard of numbers of Zimbabweans to flee. With Mugabe all you had to do was become Zanu-pf or you were striped of the rights to freedoms of choice in voting, denied rights to live as a dignified human being without fear of beatings tortures and even being murdered if you dared to voice your God- given rights. That once beautiful country was ruined beyond repair by Mugabe and now beyond the scope of Mugabe. All Mugabe had to do was give ALL his people peace and happiness. How anyone can crow Mugabe's praises after what he is doing to his people and country is beyond me.

Author: jallohlaw
Mon Nov 24 19:05:16 2008

Apples and oranges, period. "Rhodesian times"; times of eternal darkness, eternal annihilation of the human spirit, eternal obscurantist xenophobic crap, eternal return of African dehumanization, all this and more supported by the same imperialistic entities who backed Smithy, the racist, and only shuffed their way out of the house of horrors when the decimation of THE Rhodesian fascist regime was perspicuous AND imminent.

And, who is responsible for the suffering in Zimbabwe NOW? If you say "Mugabe," then you have completely, up, down, bottom, all around misunderstood the structure of the impasse in Zimbabwe.

HIGHEST REGARDS.

Author: kjrs120
Mon Nov 24 22:34:37 2008

You simply cannot compare the country as Rhodesia to now Zimbabwe. Rhodesia was well run, immaculate and fiscally sound in spite of the embargo, and Zimbabwe - finished. But Ian Smith brought a great disease which swept the black portion of the country. Colour-bar. To Ian Smith, the black person was never going to be the equal to the white man. "Not in my life time," he said. The black man had no voice. From his salary scale to where he lived, there was no equality. Then came Mugabe. What jubilation! Now the sky was the limit for people of all races. All could vote and be FREE. WRONG. Once again suppression and oppression of Zimbabweans is the order of the day as the dictator Mugabe is now in the house and only he Mugabe can be voted for or you will be intimidated, tortured and killed if you dare exercise your God given rights of freedom of choice. Now, if you are NOT Zanu-pf, you are denied everything ; your right to peace, right to nutrition, right of abode as your homes and family members are being burned alive, are forced to flee to refugee status separating families. You are denied land and you starve. Mugabe, may you burn in hell.

Author: Phiri
Sun Nov 23 19:45:14 2008

Awt, I'm surprised and disappointed by your comments about Rhodesia. I think you do not get it! Rhodesia was never wanted by the majority, in as much as Mugabe is not wanted. Rhodesia was an imperial, white dictatorship, a bunch of liars and very degrading to Black people. People are free to choose who the want! Rhodesia ...No..NO..and very large NO. Zimbabweans supported freedom fighters to hurt and kill Rhodesians, if that does not tell you something...then you are a fool...The Americans chose BUsh, one of the most illiterate Presidents in the world...Yes, sometimes people will choose their own black dictators in preference to white oppression.

Author: will205
Mon Nov 24 03:45:18 2008

@ phiri

There is no such thing as a stupid Rhodesian, because Rhodesians are renascence people, the same group that facilitated for all the systems which we now call Zimbabwe. On the other side of the spectrum, unless you are part of the “40 thieves” running the show, there is a thing called a dumb Zimbabwean, this is of course the ones that are in denial and still think this Marxist experiment works and Mugabe is some kind of a God or master mind. If you research your history it will tell you Ian was a veteran of the 2nd world war, he fought a much more fierce enemy in Europe, his generation helped save mankind for extermination so how then does a person who fought Hitler become a Racist? Ian only came into Rhodesian politics at 29 and he was instrumental in bringing dialogue with blacks, remember he grew up living with blacks in Selikwe, it was Ian who flew to Zambia at night in 1975 to meet with Kaunda and Nkomo to try and stop the war and build a prosperous country for both blacks and whites. However, it was Mugabe and that Marxist Nyerere who refused to cooperate. If you are allowed into the archives of the Rhodesian Broad Casting (RBC) you will see for yourself that Ian was not a Racist but a true Rhodesian, committed to his country’s fight against Marxism. Remember it was Gen Josiah Tongogara another man from Selukwe that insisted on reconciliation with the Rhodesians, obviously the man died mysteriously. Anywhere to stick to the points Mugabe agreed to reconciliation (please check what reconciliation means) only to renege and remove Rhodesians from the army, police, parliament…etc to which Ian Smith objected and still advised Mugabe against such a move, this is how Mugabe operates. Smith worked with the blacks for as far as possible, he loved people of all colors, being Rhodesians does not mean being white racists; it’s a way of life for those that understand what it was all about. Even if you dare ask Mugabe today he will tell you Ian Smith was not a Racist. Saka brotherman get your facts straight. I hear more racial slurs coming from blacks than from whites. If a person says that they are RHODESIAN it does not mean they white supremacist. I am black and I am a proud Rhodesian, its about one’s freedom to choose what is right and what is wrong.

Author: awt_independent
Sat Nov 22 23:38:41 2008

Ps by go to hell, do you mean Zimbabwe? Under the fat guy its not far off!

Author: djoser35
Sun Nov 23 19:53:53 2008

Amen!

Author: jallohlaw
Mon Nov 24 00:32:44 2008

look, fellow, "Rhodesia" is no more; went under the firepower of the Great Warrior, directed at the xenophobe Smith, an obscurantist beyond the imagination of the most politically naive.

Regards.

Author: do whatever to rule
Mon Nov 24 09:02:29 2008

pple are you too blind to see whats on ground. its all politics not good samaritan organisation, the same old shit on different ground if you dnt submit you will starve to death, zimbos will nver welcom gushungo with empty stomachs, - tsvangirayi has been successful in his mission - these pple make the world so hard to be in control, zim will only come out of egypt if tsvangirayi is crowned the godfather that will be the conclusion from the pharaohs, remember tsangirayi's advantage is on the starvation of zimbos its gud politics for him maybe thats the only way to a new err

Author: fisherperry
Sun Nov 23 03:26:41 2008

Rhodesia now has a humanitarian crises on its hands .The UN and relief agencies may have to step in without being invited in order to save the lives of the citizens of Rhodesia.The case in point is that the council of Elders were denied entry into Rhodesia in spite of the fact that they were on a fact finding and evaluation trip in order to dopcument the need for massive humanitarian assistance in Rhodesia.There is a huge cholera epidemic ongoing ,most hospitals are eighter closed or out of essentials,schools are closed,food is in short supply or not available Government is not officioally recognized at the UN.The fact is Zimbabwe is a failed state the next problem it will face is civil turmoil

Author: jallohlaw
Sun Nov 23 23:49:34 2008

FACT; The entity "Rhodesia" was destroyed by force of arms by Africans; accordingly, it exists only in the minds of the LOSERS, the decimated.

Or, should I assume that you intend to hang the entity "Rhodesia" and its moribund xenophobic crap on "the blaeks of 'Rhodesia'"?

If so, then bring it on, dude: you will be decimated, encore. Dig, dude?

HIGHEST FELICITATIONS.

A

Author: jallohlaw
Sun Nov 23 23:25:38 2008

Mister, are you brain challenged or what?Don't you know that an irrefragable and brave African movement led by the Great Fighter, Cdr. MUGABE, destroyed that moribund, xenophobic, obscurantist state YOU call "Rhodesia"? "Rhodesia," was DESTROYED BY POWER OF AFRICAN SELF-DETERMINATION against racist, ignorant "whaits."

Now, are you one of those "whaits," given your oxymoronic lexicon?

Yes or no. No equivocations, weazling; nothing like that, please.

Now, answer the question?

Regards.

Author: jallohlaw
Mon Nov 24 00:27:49 2008

what you call "Rhodesia" is a phenomenon extant, or do you disagree?

Regards.

Author: fisherperry
Sun Nov 23 03:26:47 2008

Rhodesia now has a humanitarian crises on its hands .The UN and relief agencies may have to step in without being invited in order to save the lives of the citizens of Rhodesia.The case in point is that the council of Elders were denied entry into Rhodesia in spite of the fact that they were on a fact finding and evaluation trip in order to dopcument the need for massive humanitarian assistance in Rhodesia.There is a huge cholera epidemic ongoing ,most hospitals are eighter closed or out of essentials,schools are closed,food is in short supply or not available Government is not officioally recognized at the UN.The fact is Zimbabwe is a failed state the next problem it will face is civil turmoil

Author: rafil
Sun Nov 23 08:12:54 2008

By this, tsvangarai is trying to repair what he helped destroy,that,s a laudable move keep it up, for it,s ordinary Zimbabweans that suffer the most in this senseless and wicked imperialist design.they(imperialists) don,t care a hoot if everybody in Zimbabwe dies as a result of their evil concoctions (sanctions) they,re only interested in how much they can hold the country to ransom externally ,which to some extent they,ve succeeded in doing.It,s left to African countries to now fashion out ways to make the economy at least 80% independent of foreign and most times criminal machinations mostly from those who think they own Africa and everything inside.Tsvangarai,tell them that the plan did,nt work and as such they(imperialists) should shed that idea and start looking for more constructive ways to safeguard their interest which has been the crux of the problem, the thinking that they,ll easily continue to cheat Africa of her birthright should be discarded for a more open and fair partnership, else this is the beginning of the end for western criminality and thievery in Africa, we stand by our resolve to free Africa of thieves and plunderers who,re here mostly for their interest and not for that of host countries and cultures.As far as we know Rhodesia is history and will remain so forever,it was an evil design to dehumanise Africans and we reject it in it,s entirety,smith should go to hell with his racist agenda and there is no place in our history books that,ll be pleasing to him, we reject you forever.

Author: Dave
Sun Nov 23 17:08:23 2008

@Rafil

You stated that..."we stand by our resolve to free Africa of thieves and plunderers who,re here mostly for their interest and not for that of host countries and cultures"

My question to you is.....Why are you defending the biggest Robber and corrupt political regime in the history of Africa.

The only reason that the present ruling members of Zimbabwe are pleading for targeted sanctions to end, is so that they can get their hands on the funds currently frozen in London, New York and Europe. They don't care how many Zims die. They aren't concerned that Cholera & Aids will wipe out a generation of Zims. They only want their LOOT!!!!

Author: awt_independent
Sun Nov 23 18:22:42 2008

More rubbish.

Tsvangirai has never called for any sanctions against the people of Zimbabwe, and any talk that he did is pure ZANU PF propaganda designed to wedge division into the people of Zimbabwe at a time when they should be coming together.

If you believe otherwise, prove it. I bet you cant.

AS for the sanctions, these are on government ministers only. So dont try and fool yourself that the state of the economy has been caused by anything other than the greed and corruption of the Mugabe government. 14th most corrupt government in the world. Stealing money from charities to fund their own lavish lifestyles. its a disgrace and the people of zimbabwe suffer while their leaders get fat.




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