Obama is for change, Chinja maiitiro its not a matter of an olive branch but change. The change that Zimbabweans believe Obama ndewe chinja blazi.

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The world hopes that Obama does not change his stance on corrupt dictatorships, especially in Africa. The problems of Zimbabwe, Sudan among others should be of great concern to him. I would imagine, concidering he has ties to Africa, was educated in a free society, was brought up with democratic ideals, he will look upon Muagbe as the terrible dictator than he is. I would imagine he was not impressed with Mugabe's olive branch and would rather not to have received anything tainted by Muagbe.

The government of Zimbabwe is not a dictatorship.

Even it were, it would be none of Obama's business: in the same way that a bona fide "dictatorship," North Korea, according to bourgeois ideologues, is none of his business. Need I mention, the Great Republic of China?

By the way, when and where is it written that the bourgeois modus of crafting and managing human conflict, which is what politics is, SHOULD be universalized?

There is nothing sacred about the theoretical and practical prejudices of a theory of democracy, and a theory it is, open to falsification, just as any other theory. The jury, to put it at the lowest level of generality, is still out on the fecundity of the bourgeoisification of human interactions.

"The jury, to put it at the lowest level of generality, is still out on the fecundity of the bourgeoisification of human interactions.'- in your mind maybe; however countless millions of people believe in universal franchisement and government of the people, by the people and for the people. It was this belief that saw Smith and his cronies kicked out and will in time see Mugabe and his henchmen also kicked out.

Dude, of course it is in my mind. Moreover, there is no "maybe" about THAT.

Second, under current mathematical theory, if you say "millions," then those millions cannot, as you assert, be "countless." THEY ARE NUMERABLE, decidably numerable, and RECURSIVELY, to boot.

On Smithie, you are dead wrong. It was not a "belief" that sent Smithie running for cover, that made him sue for peace.

No. Innumerable times, no: it was the force of ARICAN FIGHTERS, DUDE.

Moreover, universal bla, bla, bla, exists nowhere in this world. Surprised? I am not surprised that you are not surpised, for softies like you post your emotions, instead of your thoughts.

Cheers from Camp Relexion and the school of hardened souls.

"Second, under current mathematical theory, if you say "millions," then those millions cannot, as you assert, be "countless." THEY ARE NUMERABLE, decidably numerable, and RECURSIVELY, to boot. "

Oh don't be so pedantic. "countless millions" is an expression.

Your rant just goes to show that you're more concerned with syntax than sense.

Zimbabwe is a dictorship! Obama, when he becomes president of the US has the right to speak out against all forms of oppresion, as does any leader of any country in the world, and as the leader of the most powerful nation on Earth, what he says carries more weight. Like it or not. The bourgeois government of Mugabe has denied the people their share of the cake for too long! Viva La Revolution

Enfranchisement, of course, does not democracy make; and, millions have been wrong before, and will be again.

Secondly, if Zimbabwe is a bourgeois state, then, we have a theory: a bourgeois dictatatorship.

The last time I checked, that was a theory mouthed by the failed philosopher turned political 'economist' Karl Marx, a rather stupid and naive egghead, in my opinion.

The million times millions times millions slaughtered by the thugs Lenin and Stalin lay on his damned soul, and a soul he has, even though he was dumb enough to publicize his atheism, as though anyone cared or cares.

By the way, according to some scholars, Karl Marx was a racist. Imagine! A 'European' Jew adopting the attitude of racism. Wonders never cease as history rocks.

Jeez... these guys killed 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 people? Thats a billion billion. I didnt even realise there were that many people. I think you are getting confused with the Zimbawean stock exchange numbers.

How many millions of Africans did Cecil Rhodes, the archaic British imperialist, MURDER?

Research my friend, there were less than 1 million inhabitants in Zimbabwe when Rhodes colonised.

haha got him!

Jalohlaw & likes must ask lunatic Mugabe why so many thousands must die of cholera in tnis once prosperous coutry?

What the hell illegitimate President Mugabe has to do with democratically-elected Obama? Instead of an olive branch, murderer Mugabe ought to ask for pardon for his inability to lift the populace out of dire hunger.

Murderer indeed he is!

I suppose cholera is a government product. Did Mugabe produce the bacteria? Yes or no.

If no, for a "yes" would be irrational and, silly, to boot, then find the cause, the medical cause. When did medical causes morph into political causes?

Of course, Obama has the right to criticize whatever regime he deems worthy, under his subjective bourgeeois values, of critique. But, so do others. Tit for tat: another moniker for freedom of speech.

I don't suppose you have a problem with that. If you do, you shouldn't be participating in this forum. But, I suspect you don't have a problem.

Accordingly, any critique of Mugabe by Obama, if one offs, will be met by a counter-critique. Fair enough?

Of course, by "critique" I invoke the classical meaning of the locution, namely a relatively intersubjective determination of the rights and limits of an object of critique.

Yes! He did create the Cholera outbreak. How - By mismangement of the economy, by not investing (since 1980) in the water works country wide (not just Morton Jaffrey). Seems he spent more on shoes for Gracey than for the sanitation departments. So yes the government is responsible, who else would you suggest is? Do you think Cholera is a naturally occuring crisis? Maybe you think it is a Western plot?

Under your analysis the US government created the so-called "global credit crunch." I am pleased to inform you that some folks---utterly misguided, in my opinion---think so. Thus, you are not alone.

Nevertheless, I disagree with your causal attribution. Since you have proferred no evidence to corroborate your ALLEGATIONS, I need not try to even think of refuting them. You are entitled to your opinion, even false and defamatory. Charity, sometimes, is a virtue in reflective interactions.

Whether what you call "the West" caused the what the press calls an "epidemic," I know not. However, I should think that the question is properly addressed to the "West," not me.

On this, however, I stand: produce concrete, verifiable (and thus falsifiable) evidence that Mugabe, as you put it, "create[d] the cholera (sic) outbreak."

When you do, we'll rumble in zone reflection. Accordingly, I refuse to speculate about the woman (by the way, you should always respect women, for reasons too perspicuous to aver) you so crudely characterize in your post.

So how did the cholera outbreak occur? Please give us your version of events. Who's resposabilty is it to supply clean water? As you sit in the Ivory Coast and seem to have absolutely no knowledge of Zimbabwe apart from your broad anti-Imperialist stance. Study a little bit to make yourself more conversant witht he problems that have beset the country and its folk. Contribute rather than insult, make a constructive comment.

Look dude, if you think that I write to in-form the enemies of African Dignity, the RE-ACTION, then you've got another think streaming your way, and I have something to sell you: the Brooklyn Bridge.

Do you have something against the Ivory Coast, by the way? Should you? Questions, endless!

Are you having fun, en passant?

If not, then have fun! Life is too short sans fun, or do you think I am wrong?

So you know nothing and have nothing to contribute u insults and recently threats? My apolgies, I meant Sierra Leone where you reside. Saddened that your mate and confidant Charles Taylor was the neighbor

You state: Quote"However, I still question a justice system that puts in place mechanisms to prevent capable people whom it clams enjoy freedoms under its constitution to run for high office because of the colour of their skin." Unquote

You make me laugh. Do you think Mugape qualifies to be in high office. The man's a murderer and you are so obviously a fanboy of that ape as one can see from all the articles you have written recently and in the past. Mugape was ok whwn he came into power but he changed a few years ago and became bitter twisted and sick in his head. He is responsible for the state Zim is in now. Yet you think he is a god. You are probably as sick in your head.

Very interesting. History will decide if Hilary Clinton is to blame. But the world will not wait for decades to learn the truth as the writer rightly points out - the world is watching the next US Administration acutely. However, before jumping to conclusions lets give the President-elect a chance to show his hand. As more of the same in Africa can be taken as read, it will be more of the same in the Middle East and elsewhere, it will soon become clear to world what he is all about. Personally, the policies I’ll be watching are the two most important issues that have affected Africans for generations and will affect generations to come. First, will his administration pursue policies that support corrupt practices that have ensured Africans never ever benefit from their countries rich mineral resources? Second, given the food shortages predicted, Africa as the world’s food basket is undeniably the right policy to pursue as the benefits to Africans, Americans and the rest of the world will be substantial. However, the issue is will his administration pursue Africa as the world’s supplier of nutritious organic food or genetically modified food. A policy that is unnecessary in Africa’s fertile regions and one that will poisonously affect the health of Africans and the health of all people in the world. In a nutshell, will his administration ensure that Africans remain what Thabo Mbeki so eloquently highlighted as the wretched of the earth in perpetua? Lets give President Barack Obama time before declaring the honeymoon is over.

"Africa the worlds food basket", now that funny considering the food needed via donation to Africa.

Unfortunately Africa will be one of the places hit hardest when food is in short supply in the future.

Africa was always a food basket until people like you and their corrupt and racists Govts decided to invade and turned back the clock.What policies have the so-called saviour from the west enacted that had eased the suffering of the African people over the years(ages)? If they,ve not been supporting stealing Africa,s money, they,ve been going about supporting Govts that do their billing and bringing down those that did,nt.Why do you racists posting comments in here not for once forget about Africa and go back to your so called heaven in the west? not possible because your very economies can,t succeed without Africa hence the fight to stay,stay if you want, but on our terms, else we,ll fight to the end.We don,t owe you racists any apology whatsoever,you people don,t represent us and can,t talk for us as has been the case over the ages,take your blunted and racist views somewhere else,Africans will fight for their birthright and people like you and their criminal Govt,s in America & Europe can,t stop that.You are a thieving race, nothing else.

it was only ever a food basket when farming came only you tool! The have the population that is around today without developed farming practices of today would mean everyone would starve and most animals would be no more! God there is stupid people every place but mugabe supporters are some of the dumbest.

have a look at yeilds from farming over the last 5000 years and you will see africa with its population now would be no more without the developed farming methods! How stupid can people be!

Zimbabweans are now living of berries etc that have been the traditional resource but they are still going hungry because of the population growth over the last 1000 years. This means to be self sustaining Zimbabwe has to go with western and eastern farming methods to just feed itself, but under mugabe they can not even do this.

As rightly stated if it does,nt go western, then it definitely can go eastern which is going to be the case,the thieving must end and our pride and humanity eroded by the coming of criminal aliens from the west restored.This is just the beginning, don,t forget South Africa, if they have the balls to call a spade one, or Kenya,Namibia and others,We,ll turn the tables.

East or West, my brother (in the military sense), makes no difference to US now.

Africa for the Africans will NOW become a reality, after the traitors, the 'Elders,' fibbed all the way to the Bank of the West.

Mendacious 'Elders'.

This time: We go show dem!

The next forty dayas are going to be the most risky for the people of Zimbabwe. It is conceivable that Bush and his imperial cronies may go for mischief and mayhem in Zimbabwe hoping that the goodwill the Africans will feel towards the incoming administration will blunt the condemnation of the murderous adventurism.

[Goal achieved - Zimbabwe's lands and destiny back in the hands of the supremacist British colonial masters.]

Considering (USA's Secretary of State) Condoleeza Rice's cavalier dismissal of the hopes and aspirations of the natives in Kenya early this years, and her unabashed (self-loathing) championing of the bloody, plundering pursuits of the imperial Europeans in Africa, the feeling of apprehension among the Africans is understandable.

Moreover, the foreign policy team that President-elect Obama has picked is not known for harbouring a goodwill towards Africa that may be comparable to that they have for UK, EU countries and Israel.

Moreover the increasingly strident tone in leading western media towards Zimbabwe of late and the shrill belligerent pronouncements from lackeys like Odinga make us suspicious.

Zimbabwe is good for no one at all and people will help to rebuild it for the good of the people. If even the gold mines and other mines are the main issue, you can see that that must be minor thing that no one cares about even the money hungry because it has all taken a dive!

What you have to remember is this! If the west and east and most stopped supporting Zimbabwe like they have for years with AID, Zimbabwe would be no more and only have a population in the thousands.

But everyone cares about to good people of Zim no matter what colour and gives money to keep the good going even when most is stolen by mugabe and regime.

I say burn any Zim history book over the last 20 years that has any mention of Mugabe or regime, i know this will happen but better to do it sooner!

" ..If the west and east and most stopped supporting Zimbabwe like they have for years with AID, Zimbabwe would be no more and only have a population in the thousands .."

It is surprising that you stopped short of stating that there will be nobody left in Zimbabwe. And that Africa will be no more without foreigners.

1) You suggest that the foreigners apply economic sanctions on those they like. Maybe the USA liked Iraq and Cuba - countries that were xdevastated by USA's economic sanctions. Though you don't wonder why the USA has not applied the sanctions on friendly UK and Israel.

2) And yet we know that Europeans and the USA cannot maintain their 'way of life as they know it' without Africa's mineral, agricultural wealth as well as Africa's markets. If Africa was to close her borders, a war would be declared by the west immediately to re-open them for shipment of goods to the west.

3) For your information, civilizations flourished on the African plains long before the foreigners knew other continents existed. The lands of maZimbabwe thrived and Chief Lobengula reigned over his people long before 'the pink plague' from Europe appeared on the Africa's shores.

4) Still, you may have conveniently forgotten that this whole circus and saber-rattling was precipitated by the stand of the people of Zimbabwe that their ancestral lands belong to the people of Zimbabwe - to grow the foods for their population and NOT tobacco for the UK . Suppose the Chinese were to claim a 'right' to, or 'ownership' of, the lands of UK ...I bet that Bush will move with all speed to assist his UK kith and kin resist the Chinese claim. And if the Chinese talked of "regime change" in UK, well, . ..

Yet here is a subversive Odinga assisting foreigners to sabotage the natives and deny them their inalienable claim to their birthright - theland of maZimbabwe! A dunce!

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Amazing you missed the main point of the west and east supporting Zimbabwe.

Mugabe and regime have caused the problems with there leadership, even the dumbest person on this planet would be hard pressed to cause the damage that mugabe and regime have cause. Just think of this! If the farms had been taken back one at a time over 10+ years then Zimbabwe would have food and income and the world would be none the wise until it was all done. This would make sense to anyone with an IQ over 30.