I salute Odinga and Khama for seeing the light and indeed standing up for fellow Africans. As Zimbabweans we trusted Mugabe but the past ten years we realised he was a confused despot who does not believe in political change. AS you have stood against him it won’t be long that Kenya will be accused of training militia to assasinate him. Mugabe and his advisors are pure evil and they have no solution on how to rescue this country from the quagmire they have created. It’s so sad to see a leader mourning about his travel bans and venting this to ordinary Zimbabweans or to the opposition. Mugabe is a practised manipulator and uses the government controlled media to scapegoat everyone who opposes him. He tries to portray the west as failing Zimbabwe while he knows that he is the failure. I believe all Africans will start to see him as the problem. I salute you once again and may GOD bless you for seeing and caring about Zimbabweans. We shall fight to restore our dignity in the world but we need your support as we are faced with an evil person.

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I suppose the Kenyan has been "Bushed," the lessons of the neo-con misadventure in Iraq, notwithstanding.

The riposte from ZANU/PF must be "bring it on" to the Kenyan who, I suppose, knows nada of international law.

Yes sort of like the EU with Georg Haider, Milosevic and others. When you have a rogue leader in your midst you are compelled to get rid of him as he will only bring everyone down to his level. He will destabilize all the countries around him, thus needs to be told to step down.

No, pal: you need a better analogy.

Moreover, may I suggest you read the charter and related documents of the African Union to get a proper perspective on what is about to engulf the region, if the ignorant Kenyan's OPINION were heeded by level headed leaders in the region.

Personally, I thought the analogy was fine. We're seeing the problems with Mugabe's Zimbabwbe spilling into neighbouring regions, with the outbreak of Cholera, plus the many Zimbabweans fleeing the oppresive regime. Why should other countries share the burdon of Mugabe's madness?

Better analogy, why. Ok then Idi Amin. What is about to engulf the region, that is obvious, cholera, hunger, power outs, revolution by the masses against hypocritical despots. I would refrain from calling Odinga ignorant, he is one of the leaders in Kenya and has the right to voice his concerns to the region especially when it will probably affect his country. Belive it or not Mugabe is the laughing stock of Sub-Saharan Africa, their leader may fear Mugabe going, but that is for their own selfish ends not that they actualy care for him.

I guess the new better is worse, ocean wide off base. Idi Amin? Please!

Time will tell what would engulf the region; I am not a prophet; maybe you are. In anycase, I don't give a rat's tail about prophesy.

A few points: Mugabe is not a dictator, period. It is understandable that MT and his epigoni would like to hang that silly tag on him.

You may refrain from calling Odinga "ignorant." Your refrain, however, is groundless.

Accordingly, I reiterate my averment: Odinga is ignorant of the laws and regulations of the African Union and international public law.

" .. Mugabe is the laughing stock of Sub-Saharan Africa, .."

Well. We note that current sub-Saharan Africa is contaminated by lackeys like Museveni, Mubarak, Kibaki, Mogae, Kagame, Odinga, Obasanjo and others like Annan and Marcel. If these are not of the stuff of "laughing stock" to you, then you bear no goodwill towards Africa.

By the way, it should be obvious to you that the west has its own burden of

- diseases AIDS, herpes, psychoses, cancers and life lived with chronic pain (for more than half of USA population),

- hunger (more than 30 million starve in USA),

- crime [a woman raped every few minutes in USA and nearly a million kids raped in UK this year.]

And we have not mentioned West and East Europe or Asia and South America.

Now, comparatively, Africa does not sound that bad afterall, right? Indeed, if it was that bad why would the whites be kicking and screaming all the way to the airports when they are thrown out of an African country? And why are millions of Europeans living in African countries - especially along the east and west coast of Africa?

Get the facts.

You say "Get the facts", but yours are clearly mate up.

Please provide evidence of the following

Lie 1: That half the US population has "diseases AIDS, herpes, psychoses, cancers and life lived with chronic pain"

Lie 2: That more than 30 million starve in USA

Lie 3: a woman raped every few minutes in USA

Lie 4: nearly a million kids raped in UK this year.

And you say comparatively Africa doesnt sound that bad. Those stats sound alot more like Africa than anywhere else actually.

Now you should "Get the facts!"

Dude, what you wrongheadedly call "lies" are, in fact, irreragable truths.

For you understanding, the word should be "irrefragable."

Evidence... lets see some evidence. Lets show a link to a reputable source that proves these "facts" then? Clearly you cant because they are lies. Care to prove me otherwise? Or have we once again shown you to be a liar?

"Evidence," my foot!

Where is the 'evidence' for what you called supra "lies"?

Nada: you merely asserted your customary bunkum.

Produce your evidence, and then I'll produce soul searing evidence of your mendacity, of your ignorance, of your, well, reactionary HABITUS.

PRODUCE YOUR EVIDENCE NOW, EMPTY VESSEL!

Ok…. Fine… I gave you the chance to back down and admit that you were wrong, but now I shall have to show everyone once and for all, through sourced facts that both CHOKORA and JALLOHLAW (shallowhead) are nothing but baseless liars who have no credibility whatsoever. You tell one lie and get caught out, and everything else you say becomes questionable.

You call me lazy for clearly pointing out you have lied. But you are really the lazy one for making things up and not finding out the truth. I mean, all you have to do, as you clearly point out is "All you have to do is copy and paste into your search engine the phrases that interest you. There is a glut of information available. You have no excuses." So you're right… you have no excuses for these lies. I shall now find the truth, and show who is the lazy liar. .

Lets start with Lie 4: nearly a million kids raped in UK this year. There were only 47,000 rapes of women reported in the UK for 2007. (Source http://www.fawcettsociety.org.uk/documents/Rape%20-%20The%20Facts.doc), yet you are saying there are nearly 1,000,000 kids raped. Quite clearly a lie. Even in South Africa there were only 18,000 children raped (source: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_6869/is_/ai_n28549501), nowhere near the 1 million you state for the UK that you sooooo wholeheartedly believe to be a "irreragable truth" Yet you say that comparatively Africa isnt all that bad? Well lets just see. (Source: Source: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita) Zimbabwe: 0.457775 per 1,000 people United States: 0.301318 per 1,000 people United Kingdom: 0.142172 per 1,000 people Sure looks like Zimbabwe is a lot worse than the United States and the United Kingdom. Care to blame that on sanctions too? . Lets also look at Lie 2: That more than 30 million starve in USA Now there are no statistics on the number of starving people in the USA (so clearly this is made up), but to put it into context, lets compare it with the number of homeless people (an accurate proxy I believe presumably, if someone can afford to have a roof over their head, presumably they can afford to eat. There are were 744,000 people homeless in the USA in 2005 (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/10/national/main2349515.shtml). No where near the 30,000,000 you state. Clearly another lie. Now I don’t have the time nor inclination to look up the other 2, but given you have clearly lied with these 2, its logical to believe that you have lied with the others as well. You simply now have no credibilty here. Remember, you tell one lie and get caught out, and everything else you say becomes questionable. CHOKORA , you say "I shall NO longer respond to your comments" clearly this is an admission that you have lied and have no retort. I've put you back in your little hole where you belong havent I. Its been a pleasure. Now do you "Get the Facts"?

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Haha... look at you trying to weasel your way out of me catching you lying... no critique required. These are all reputable sources. Unless you have any of your own to prove otherwise? Go on... prove to me that "nearly 1 million children have been raped in the UK this year"!!!! you and I both know this is clearly a lie, and you are cleary a liar with no credibility here. I have done all you have asked, and provided the evidence as requested. Whats next, provide a critique of the critique? And then a critique of the critique of the critique? Haha. I so got you! As you say... loving this!

" "Get the facts" ... Please provide evidence .."

Somehow, we presume that you have access to the internet. But we realize that your time on the internet may be limited. However during the time you took to type your lazy response, a search engine could have provided the necessary data and research reports. All you have to do is copy and paste into your search engine the phrases that interest you. There is a glut of information available. You have no excuses.

Hey Lazy, don't ask us to do your homework. Provide counter arguments if you disagree. And that will then provide the basis for a productive discussion of the available reports and data.

For now, you sound as argumentative and empty as your Odinga. And just as clueless as the despicable "elders" in South Africa who are yowling their vacuous heads off about Zimbabwe.

I shall NO longer respond to your comments

I shall look forward to replying to these with the actual stats in the morning. Watch this space. Theres till time to tell us that you made these up... before I prove you're a lying ass tomorrow...

Author: awt_independent Tue Dec 9 11:29:53 2008 Ok…. Fine… I gave you the chance to back down and admit that you were wrong, but now I shall have to show everyone once and for all, through sourced facts that both CHOKORA and JALLOHLAW (shallowhead) are nothing but baseless liars who have no credibility whatsoever. You tell one lie and get caught out, and everything else you say becomes questionable.

You call me lazy for clearly pointing out you have lied. But you are really the lazy one for making things up and not finding out the truth. I mean, all you have to do, as you clearly point out is "All you have to do is copy and paste into your search engine the phrases that interest you. There is a glut of information available. You have no excuses." So you're right… you have no excuses for these lies. I shall now find the truth, and show who is the lazy liar. .

Lets start with Lie 4: nearly a million kids raped in UK this year. There were only 47,000 rapes of women reported in the UK for 2007. (Source http://www.fawcettsociety.org.uk/documents/Rape%20-%20The%20Facts.doc), yet you are saying there are nearly 1,000,000 kids raped. Quite clearly a lie. Even in South Africa there were only 18,000 children raped (source: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_6869/is_/ai_n28549501), nowhere near the 1 million you state for the UK that you sooooo wholeheartedly believe to be a "irreragable truth" Yet you say that comparatively Africa isnt all that bad? Well lets just see. (Source: Source: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita) Zimbabwe: 0.457775 per 1,000 people United States: 0.301318 per 1,000 people United Kingdom: 0.142172 per 1,000 people Sure looks like Zimbabwe is a lot worse than the United States and the United Kingdom. Care to blame that on sanctions too? . Lets also look at Lie 2: That more than 30 million starve in USA Now there are no statistics on the number of starving people in the USA (so clearly this is made up), but to put it into context, lets compare it with the number of homeless people (an accurate proxy I believe presumably, if someone can afford to have a roof over their head, presumably they can afford to eat. There are were 744,000 people homeless in the USA in 2005 (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/10/national/main2349515.shtml). No where near the 30,000,000 you state. Clearly another lie. Now I don’t have the time nor inclination to look up the other 2, but given you have clearly lied with these 2, its logical to believe that you have lied with the others as well. You simply now have no credibilty here. Remember, you tell one lie and get caught out, and everything else you say becomes questionable. CHOKORA , you say "I shall NO longer respond to your comments" clearly this is an admission that you have lied and have no retort. I've put you back in your little hole where you belong havent I. Its been a pleasure. Now do you "Get the Facts"?

PRODUCE YOUR INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL CRITIQUES OF YOUR SOURCES! That is called "Scholarship 101."

Produce the critiques or shut up, bonehead!

Or, as the Yankees, in their colorful language, frame it: "put up or shut up."

And, I say: "Where is the beef, bonehead"? (Pun unequivocally and wickedly intended).

Haha... look at you trying to weasel your way out of me catching you lying... no critique required. These are all reputable sources. Unless you have any of your own to prove otherwise? Go on... prove to me that "nearly 1 million children have been raped in the UK this year"!!!! you and I both know this is clearly a lie, and you are cleary a liar with no credibility here. I have done all you have asked, and provided the evidence as requested. Whats next, provide a critique of the critique? And then a critique of the critique of the critique? Haha. I so got you! As you say... loving this!

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AWT why bother with these fools? You've provided official figures concerning the homeless and rape crimes but clearly they won't admit the truth and can't provide any evidence to back up their lies.

I know you want to show the world just how untrue their statements are but you needn't bother. Most people know they are telling lies and those that don't are beyond hope or education.

No need! I've already proven you to be a liar! Haha. Unless you want to prove me otherwise, and find some form of evidence that says that "nearly 1 million children have been raped in the UK this year"?

Come on... you know you've told a lie.... how about you own up to it and admit to everyone that you told a lie. Be a man instead of a child for once.

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Still on evidence to the contrary? So childish. I've noticed that you seem a bit upset lately? Everything ok in Harare? You're not worried about that Cholera are you... you shouldnt be... after all your great leader has informed us all that there is no longer cholera in Zimbabwe. And on these words, more Zimbabweans will die. Crazy dont you think? South Africa is saying there is a disaster zone on the boarder, Mugabe is denying it even exists.

jallohlaw if you dispute the evidence provided by awt then the onus is on you to provide evidence to the contrary, else be considered a liar and incapable of intelligent debate.

"even in war, herein a war of words, true warriors are honorable"

In the face of damning evidence you avoid the issue at hand and turn to petty insults. Is that honourable?

GRAMMAR LESSONS FOR MINDLESS

MINDLESS writes:

"jallohlaw if you dispute the evidence by awt then the onus is on you to provide evidence to the contrary, else be considered a liar and incapable of intelligent debate. "even in war , herein a war of words, true warriors are honorable" in the face of damning evidence you avoid the issue at hand and turn to petty insults. Is that honorable?

CORRECT ENGLISH USAGE: "jallohlaw, if you dispute the evidence by awt, then the onus is on you to provide evidence to the contrary, or else you'd be considered a liar, and incapable of intelligent debate. "[E]ven in war , herein a war of words, true warriors are honorable." In the the face of damning evidence, you avoid the issue at hand, and turn to petty insults. Is that honourable?

Cheers, mindless pundit.

You got one comma correction right but the rest of your "correction" is wrong.

I notice you completely avoided the issue at hand. Do you have any evidence to counter the claims that you are a liar? I doubt it.

He has no evidence, and has blatantly told lies and been found out about it. He's backed into a corner and all he has left to resort to is childing grammatical games. Its like playing with a 3 year old.

It suggests to us that you are not African - or you have not lived in certain African countries.

Else you would have known that despite the efforts by the plundering whites to cast them otherwise, Al Hajji Idi Amin, Patrice Lumumba, Kwame Nkrumah, Muammar al-Gaddafi and Mwalimu Nyerere are, among others, African heroes.

The Africans are not looking unto imperial foreigners to tell them who their heroes are. And that makes you scared.

Look at this:

http://www.thepresidency.gov.za/show.asp?type=sp&include=president/sp/2000/ tm0122.html&ID=469

Africa endures. The myth of their ancestors endures.

Let us try again - in case you couldn't access the link:

http://www.thepresidency.gov.za/show.asp?type=sp&include=president/sp/2000/ tm0122.html&ID=469

or

President Mbeki's address

OK. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Copy the link and paste into your browser's link address area then remove the space(or blank) between "/" and "tm0122"

come on post it again correctly this time. Last try though!

Jrr, I do agree with you on the overall content you are trying to convey, that is EU made sure that Haider was on watch and in most EU countries he was not welcome anymore. African Union should now start putting pressure on Mugabe and begin to isolate him. Greater yet, pressure should be put on Zimbabwe political parties to resolve the current impasse. If national unity is not the answer, then new elections or caretaker gov’t. Zimbabwe’s current economic and social conditions may not be conducive to fresh elections.

Jallohlaw must know the fate of Idi Amin when Tanzania helped Ugandans against the bloodstained dictator. Mugabe is no less bloodstained than Amin! He is even worse, given that he drew away millions of his citizens to neighbouring countries. Now, after ruling over widespread famine, he is spreading cholera to exterminate his opponents.

It is high time Mugabe and his cronies be sent to hell. Soon people will stone him to a slow death outside his chinese-built castle! Watch out Jallohlaw!

It is funny when someone says anything against Mugabe or the Zanu-pf their followers automatically start associating them with Europe and the USA. Mugabe and the Zanu-pf are the ones who are responsible for the situation in Zimbabwe. It is not the MDC or anyone else so please stop blaming the rest of the world for your problems b/c who is in charge of Zimbabwe and has been for way too long?????Mugabe...... Blame him for your problems so do not get upset b/c other African leaders stand up and say it is time for him too go. The SADC wants the west to intervene with food and medical help now of course but the true resolution to this problem is removing Mugabe from power.

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In the interrest of health please will all Zimbabweans shut their buckets up to stop the spread of Cholera

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Vana ICHO - mazvimbirwa nenyemba dzamakutambira, mari yapera. Dai wabatwa neCholera what Zim politics are talking about? Killing Zimbabweans is your defination of zim politics? URIMBAVHA IWEWE.

It is sad too see how loyal some people are too Mugabe and accuse Tsvangirai or Odinga being stooges for Europe and the USA. What they fail to look at and accept blame that the only stooge is Mugabae and the Zanu-pf who is the ones responsible for all of Zimbabwe's problems. They are in charge Tsvangirai is not in charge so stop the whining about Tsvangirai or the US ,Europe or whoever is caing your problems according to your opinion which is all it is nothing you say has any facts or truth to back it up. The people of Zimbabwe are suffering at the hands of Robert Mugabe and the leadership of the Zanu-pf plain and simple. It does not take any scholar to figure that out. Soon enough Mugabe will be removed along with some Zanu-pf leadership so stick with them but promise you it will get you nowhere but well maybe on trial very soon for all the crimes they have committed against their own people.

AGAIN DO NOT START WITH THE USA OR EUROPE CRAP B/C MUGABE IS IN CHARGE SO STOP BLAMING SOMEONE ELSE FOR THE PROBLEM MUGABE HAS CREATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Methinks that post was written in down town North Korea.

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You must be kidding. MT as a commmander? I hear he can't even do ten push ups.

There is no point telling a dog that it is a dog. Summun bunkum humyun, as the Arabs say.

These tails of the varied shades of imperialism, the vomit of Euro-American imperialism, understand one and only one thing: principled, militant, and God take my life RESISTANCE.

Precisely that is what they are getting from Cdr. MUGABE. That silly MT, mouthing bourgoeis clap trap, miscalculated: he thought the GREAT FIGHTER was a softie.

How wrong he and his imperialist backers were and are!

As for Odinga, the ignoramus: mind your business; fix the broken house of Kenya first!

I do recognize the pains and suffering my fellow Zimbabweans are going through. I believe it is time for Zimbabweans to take back their country by following or adopting the style of Thailand or Asian country like Phillipain, through none violence approach. Unions and all organizations, citizens, etc. must shut down the government. Every government office, building, traffic, airport, etc. must be blocked/shut down until Mugabe and his killing machine step down. I believe this is best way to end the people pain and end the Mugabe terrior. Zimbabweans, the ball is in your corner...IF YOU REALLY WANT CHANGE, THE POWER IS IN YOUR HANDS!!! SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT!!!

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takunya_ndebvu I willl start with post your post once it does not need to be posted over and over to let people hear your biased opinion on Mugabe. You foolish name calling of Odinga and Tsvangirai really shows that you are really showing how childish you really are. Whi is speaking out against Mugabe now it is his own army, doctors and others in Zim who are tired of living in utter hell all b/c of Mugabe's selfishness so they are tired of this and who could blame them. There is no one from Europe or the USA needing to influence the peoples thoughts b/c it is simple they are tired of living with nothing. Zimbabwe's problems are a result of Robert Gabriel Mugabe b/c he has complete control of the country so STOP blaming everyone else for Zimbabwe's problems. He has been in control for almost 30 years. He has been controlling by force and now that control he has had so long is slipping away b/c the people are tired of him living like a king while the rest of the people suffer. Also do not invoke the name of God as an excuse to even make eople is on Mugabe's side. After your usage of words I know how much you really believe about God but anyone can call themself a christian but your one of those who are christian by name but definately do not practice christian lifestyles. God speaks of His wrath also and well Mugabe better change his ways b/c he will experience God's wrath for all the bad things he has done and continues to do....

Unless you have something with facts and truth please I am not wanting to hear your Mugabe supporting opinions anymore! When Mugabe is removed how long will you stick by him???? I am sure you will jump ship and be all for the new change...

Odinga has very little respect for Law.I would suggest that he concentrate of solving problems closer at home, like going into Somalia and putting order there first, then go into DRC and deal with Nkunda. Otherwise he should not sound like an old brass bell, resounding noises of his MASTERS. When Somalia has gone for almost 20 years, he has not mentioned sending in UN Peacekeeping Force, to bring an end to Anarchy in Somalia. Odinga is not sounding like an African, he needs to remember how African culture is, just because he once studied in Russia does not make him an expert, just like George Bush or Gordon Brown. For Ian Khama, his problems are known, it will come out but not from me. Its a known fact why him and Mugabe dont get along. Mugabe's stance on Khama, is 100% biblically correct.

Thuthu alIneed to say that Mugabe and God are not on the same page. So do not call a person like Mugabe 100% correct on anything to do with the Bible after we have seen what he has done and continues too do. God does not support the sins or stances of Mugabe. UN peacekeeping force in Somalia or anywhere for that matter is crazy look what happened in Rwanda and how did they help that situation just stood back and watched.

Foreigners conspire to bring harm to the people of ZImbabwe by applying sanctions that cause financial meltdown and untold suffering to the people of Zimbabwe. Odinga piously blames their leader for the foreign-instigated difficulties.

The western countries are currently undergoing a financial meltdown brought about by their own greedy citizens. Odinga does not blame the western leaders or call for their ouster. [Neither are we convinced that he has the capability to observes and comprehend how the west goes about the business of solving their problems - constructively. Why else is Kenya';s economy in eternal recession while Odinga pretends to know the solution to Africa's problems? Does Africa's salvation lie in neo-colonialism as spearheaded by Odinga?]

Is Odinga working for the interests of Zimbabwe and the Africans.

There is a cholera outbreak in Zimbabwe. Odinga calls for the ouster of their leader. Now and then there is a cholera or anthrax outbreak in Kenya. Odinga never blames Kenya's leaders - including Odinga himself - and call for a regime change.

Now and then the ancestors smile upon the African Child and disaster is averted. Africans are discovering the real Odinga. Odinga is a lackey whose time almost came. And never will.

Odinga pretends to speak for Africa. Who elected him into that position? Odinga is an embarrassment to Africa.

chokora, here we go again for all of you Mugabe, zanu-pf loyalist you immediately start pointing your fingers at other people and countries but fail to look at the problem we are talking about ZIMBABWE... I am not saying Odinga is 100% correct in all of his policies but guess what at least he stands up against Mugabe which is more than I can say for many Afrian leaders who are a disgrace to their positions. Many African leaders do not say anything b/c they are corrupt themselves and afraid of Mugabe and losing his money. Mugabe is in charge of Zim as for Odinga he is not in charge in his position so stop blaming the rest of the world for the problems Mugabe has made for Zimbabwe. Get your facts straight those sanctions are agains Mugabe and the Zanu-pf leadership alone so the economic meltdown of Zim can be credited to Robert Mugabe alone b/c he has ruled ZIM by and with force for almost 30 years now. He is in complete control but now people are tired of living with nothing and in fear of saying anything against him. It is funny how you just cannot stand the west but oh how you want our money well it is not our job to make sure you survive but you depend on our money for survival. Thje first thing we say about your politics you go all mad on the west but at the same time have your hand out wanting our money a little hyprocritical do you you not think????

I have lived in the west and trust me a corrupt leader is just not put up with they will be removed from office, try to think maybe they may not make the best decisions in everything but people will not put up with blatant stealing as if that is normal....

The western countries are falling, and soon will be gone. Who will you blame for Zimbabwe's continuing misery then? The same people Africans have always blamed, I suppose: Africans of other tribes. Zimbabwe in 2012 will be like Rwanda in 1994, and there will be no more western powers to blame for it. But then, they will be blamed anyhow, just as the UN was blamed for not exerting its colonial influence to stop the civil war in Rwanda. Or maybe for using its orbital mind-control lasers to make the people mad and crazy. Whatever, you'll get your wish, and then you'll be happy sitting with the other people of Zimbabwe in your mass grave.

Gt, Odinga and Khama should go to hell a thousand times if they think they have what it takes to influence the ouster of our President. Odinga has nothing to tell us about our country because he is not himself, he is doing the bidding for the imperialists who installed him as PM after cold-bloodedly massacring Kenyan for refusing to vote for him president of Kenya.

Gt, just like Prem and Awt_independent are not Zimbabweans and therefore cannot speaking on our behalf. As a Zimbabwean, I will defend my president for standing up for all Zimbabweans regardless of the political affiliation. Everybody now knows that President Mugabe is being punished for daring to dislodge imperialists in our mother land. He, unlike Odinga, Khama, Savimbi, Dhlakama and Tsvingirai, is a Pan-Africanist who has the people of Africa at heart.

The war that we are fighting today, the suffering we are going through and the deaths we are experiencing and have to endure in our mother land, with Mugabe in the lead, are all part of the war to liberate Africa. As such we will defend President Mugabe to the bitter end, with our blood. If Odinga and Khama and Tsvangirai thinks they can use their soldiers and militias to oust our President they should know that we are waiting for them.

We are not Uganda during Idi Amin, we are Zimbabweans during Mugabe's era of liberation and so no amount of demonisation will sway our support for the SON OF AFRICA - ROBERT GABRIEL MUGABE. Incidentally, he has an Angel's name, hence GOD is on his side, just like Moses had GOD's total support.

Your friend Prem says President Mugabe is worse than Amin "given that he drew away millions of his citizens to neighbouring countries..." and that "...he is spreading cholera to exterminate his opponents.", what hogwash and what laugh stupidity. Who in this world is exterminate the African race? Is it not the CIA who have used syphilis against African-Americans? Is it not the CIA who created the AIDS virus that is wreaking havoc in third world countries? Is it not the CIA who have used chemical weapons against civilians in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanstan, and at Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

A few days ago a CIA agent who is embedded with an NGO was predicting that there would be an outbreak of anthrax in Zimbabwe. From where, if I may ask? It means it is them who are creating all these diseases so as to potray Zimbabwe as a failed state and ultimately to use this for their regime change agenda. No wonder we now hear dogs from Kenya, Botswana, Nigeria, Ghana and the so-called Elders, bucking at Zimbabwe but wagging their tails at imperialists.

Your other friend, Afric35, says that "when someone says anything against Mugabe or the Zanu-pf their followers automatically start associating them with Europe and the USA". Nobody is associating you with imperialists but yourself. The moment you fail to appreciate where all, and I mean ALL, the problems we are facing in Zimbabwe emanate from and you start singing the same song as those who have imposed sanctions against our people, those who are causing the suffering and death to innocent Zimbabweans, then you are, no doubt, part of that CIA/MI5 machine that is destroying our country.

All the problems we face today are a result of Tsvangirai and his masters who do not care a bit about the welfare of the people of Zimbabwe. They do not mind how many thousands of people have to die for them to install a puppet in Harare.

Odinga, with help from the same imperialists backing Tsvangirai, killed 3 000 Kenyans in order to protect imperialist interests and not those of Kenyans. He is the one who should be stoned to death. Why is he refusing to implement the findings of the Commission of Enquiry that investigated tribal violence in Kenya, which, in just two months, claimed the lives of 3 000 innocent Kenyans?

It will not surprise me to hear that Tsvangirai has been offered a training base for his militias who are being moved out of Botswana after we uncovered the plot. After the so-called "Dukwi Refugee Camp" was exposed for what it really is - a militia training base - Khama cannot keep them there anymore, he has to find an alternative base for them. Zimbabweans are going to have the last laugh when we eventually expose traitors and stooges in our midst.

"It will not surprise me to hear that Tsvangirai has been offered a training base for his militias who are being moved out of Botswana after we uncovered the plot." C'mon Cde Ndebvu; that is a bit lame, wouldn't you agree? There has been no evidence whatsover to support this fanciful idea of MDC militias training in secret Bostwana camps and your response is; well they must have moved them!!This is the same patronising approach used by the Herald; it is as if you were talking to children.

By the way, anthrax has been present in northern Matabeland for years - I personally witnessed anthrax victims in the Lupane district in 1979 - so it does not take some mysterious CIA agent to introduce it; all it needs is a war (1979) or an economic collapse (the present) to allow it come to the fore.

So Kazt you tell me that up to now you still do not know that Botswana has since acknowledged that it was and may still be training militias for Tsvangirai. I kindly refer you to an article posted on the ZimSituation website on 07 Dec 2008 but had previously appeared on http://sundaystandard.info.

In this article entitled "Zim spies feared to have infiltrated Botswana", Botswana, acknowledges but goes further to prepare the ground work to deny the obvious - training Tsvangirai's militias. They want to allege that the "CIO agent" and some women married to recruits at the camp must have informed the Zim govt about the training that was taking place at Dukwi Camp, and yet the truth is that the said people are all MDC activists who received military training (against their will) at this camp but do not believe in taking up arms to fight the Zim govt.

Please read the portion I extracted from the article;

"The refugees have also raised concerns about several Zimbabwean women married to asylum seekers from other countries like Angola and Namibia who enjoy free and frequent visits to and from Zimbabwe. They suspect that these refugees, some of whom are married to Zimbabwean nationals, might be passing information about the goings on at the camp to Zimbabwean authorities since refugees from other countries can enter and depart from Zimbabwe legally"

What were or are the "the goings on at the camp" which are worth of reporting to the Zimbabwean authorities and which may suggest military training when there is none?

Cde Ndebvu - thank you for drawing my attention to that article on the Zimbabwe Situation website. Following your advice, I read and re-read the article carefully.

What can I say? No rational impartial person could reasonably draw the conclusions that you have managed to arrive at. There is not a shred of evidence to support what you say. Where has 'Botswana...acknowledged that it was and may still be training militias for Tsvangirai'?

The fact that Zimbabwean spies may be in the refugee camps does not mean that militias are being trained. Sounds like paranoia to me.

Takunya, Why do you continue to post lies? You say that this article that you kindly link us to that: "Botswana has since acknowledged that it was and may still be training militias for Tsvangirai." The very first line of this article shows us that: "Botswana has denied reports that Zimbabwean spies have infiltrated the Botswana system and at least one of them has even had audience with President Ian Khama" There is clearly no acknowledgement by Botswana, and you have clearly made this up. You are a lying fool with no credibility and I continue to find you out.

Awt_independent,

What do you expect Botswana to say, other than to deny the obvious. You expect them to say that they have been infiltrated and that Khama met one of the Dukwi Camp commanders in Francistown? You expect them to say that they have been training Tsvangirai's militias when the whole of SADC has warned the sellout country of dire consequences should the allegation turn out to be true. That would obviously be suicidal.

Remember the acknowledgement first came from Skelemani when he was being interviewed on BBC programme Hardtalk. He went on to say that Botswana refused to go to Zimbabwe to hear testmonials from those they were training because "evidence should be in Botswana and not in Harare". It was obvious from that interview that Botswana is afraid of being exposed. This is why they are now using the press to say that they have been inflitrated and then immediately deny it. This is also why they are urgently calling for the invasion of Zimbabwe by their masters so that the gathered evidence becomes irrelevant as Tsvangirai would now be in power in Harare.

If you have exposed me as a lair, why did you not answer my question as to what were or are the "goings on at the camp" which the "CIO agent" exposed, which point to military training? Pretty simple, no activitiy at a refugee camp resembles military training and Botswana should not fear anything if they were not up to some sinister intent.

Afterall, they have, at no time, informed the Zim govt of the setting up of a refugee camp for Zimbabweans fleeing persecution.

Takunya, you just dont get it do you.

You said that "that Botswana has since acknowledged that it was and may still be training militias for Tsvangirai"

I then pointed out that the very first line of this article shows us that: "Botswana has denied reports that Zimbabwean spies have infiltrated the Botswana system and at least one of them has even had audience with President Ian Khama"

And now you say "What do you expect Botswana to say, other than to deny the obvious."

You say they acknowledge it, then you say they deny it. Make up your mind!

Then you say it would be suicidal to admit to this, then you say that "Remember the acknowledgement first came from Skelemani when he was being interviewed on BBC programme Hardtalk."

Which is it?

We'll forget the point that Skelemani probably never said these things on BBC HardTalk, as you've been shown to tell lies about BBC HardTalk before. Remember when you falsely claimed that Tsvangirai had called for sanctions on BBC HardTalk?

Now where have they been "urgently calling for the invasion of Zimbabwe"

More lies I suspect. You cant just make these things up and expect everyone to believe you.

As for what went on in the refugee camp. I suspect people are being paid by the Zim government to provide testimony that militias are being trained. Thats my take on it. Desperate people will say anything for money.

Strange argument Cde Ndebvu. You are essentially saying that because Botswana denies the allegations they must have something to hide, it follows therefore that they are guilty of what they deny. Shades of Soviet show trials or some other sinister view of the world. Scary stuff indeed.

Here is some background info on Odinga which you may not be aware of.

Over the years, Odinga has been implicated in several insurrections in which thousands lost their lives and millions were displaced. There was the case in 1982 when thousands died in an uprising in Kenya. When bullets started whizzing by and blood started flowing, somehow Odinga was missing on the front - as usual.

Then early this year he precipitated a situation whereby thousands lost their lives and over a million poor people were displaced. It sis expected that in forur years' time, Odinga will be at it again in Kenya - with intrigues and manoeuvrings and plots designed to fan ethnic tensions and cause mayhem and havoc.

Hitherto Odinga had confined his subversive activities to Kenya. Then over the past years, he made frequent trips to USA, UK and South Africa.

Perhaps the Africa stage grew too small.

Chokora, given you have been found out as a liar on this site, can you please provide some evidence to your claims? Or else we shall all have to assume you are lying. You've told lies before, so chances are you will again, and thus you have no credibility. It shouldnt be up to us to check your sources.

Rail Odinga Kofi Anan Desmond Tutu Ian Khama Bostwana's Minister of Foreign Affairs Bostwana's Vice President

Any statements about Zimbabwe coming from the above "prominent African leaders" must be dismissed and viewed as additional attempts to destabilize Zimbabwe.

These stooges are funded by the Anglo-American alliance to effect regime-change in Zimbabwe. They are proxies used by the West for its imperial agenda in Southern Africa. The new strategy of the Anglo-Americans is to invoke the "responsibility to protect" doctrine to impose a colonial order in Zimbabwe through the UN Security Council.

The root causes of this sudden outbreak of Cholera and Anthrax in Zimbabwe should be independently investigated as these hostile external forces and their local allies are willing to do anything to overthrow the Government of Zimbabwe. Spreading viruses and diseases in a territory controlled by an unfriendly government is not something new......

Femi, You better find a new job quick b/c your days of suppong Mugabe are about over. Desmond Tutu has done more for a country and Africa than Mugabe could ever dream about. Mugabe liberated Zimbabwe once so now that is all you think about but even if that was a good thing he has destroyed Zimbabwe now so time for the Lunatic Mugabe to go peacefully or be removed by force...

On Thursday South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu said that Mugabe must step down or be removed by force, saying that Mugabe has destroyed Zimbabwe, turning what used to be Africa's bread basket into a 'basket case'

It,s obvious there are a lot of neo-cons in here.Our message to you is to find a job or change tactics because we,ve been through this road before so we know what it looks like. We,ve had greats like NKRUMAH;SEKOU TOURE;PATRICE LUMUMBA;AMICAL CABRAL,THOMAS SANKARA and the list goes on toppled for having the temerity to tell the west to their face that Africans are capable of solving their problems.Neo - cons and their sympathisers, we,re going to sweep all of you out of Africa,believe it or not.We know that you and the sellouts in our midst are green snakes but we are ever determined than before to stop you.Tutu, Odinga, Annan, Mandela, Khama,Mobutu and other collaborators can go to hell,they don,t speak for us,they are willing and ready to sell Africa for peanuts.The revolution is spreading aroud Africa, can,t stop it.Log live Africa,Long live the glorious leaders.

Africans must solve African problems... except when it comes to feeding the poor, healing the sick, and so on. Then the West must do all these things, or they are killing Africans with "sanctions."

And so the four Riders of the Apocalypse, War, Plague, Famine, and Death, shall follow in the shadow of every African "revolution," destroying the lives of all "liberated" Africans, just as they sweep across Zimbabwe now with Mugabe's unwitting approval.

How does the West do it? The answer is right there in plain sight, but nobody can bear to look at it.

Frankly, I find the comments by Kenya's prime minister rather unfortunate. Dramatic pronounciations that make headlines on BBC don't help the people of Zimbabwe. In fact they strengthen the resolve of Mugabe.

Why isn't he using his verbal leverage to push SADC countries to do something tangible? For instance, can someone explain to me why Botswana criticizes Zimbabwe soo heavily yet even as recently as two week ago when MDC-T was told to go home and share the home affairs ministry, Botswana happily signed onto it...? The fact that the president wasn't there isn't an issue, coz his foreign affairs minister or whoever he delegates is consulted, and probably consultation is made (with the presidency) prior to important decisions.

I just think that a lot of energy is being wasted by people making bold declarations about tribunals and stuff but nobody can even figure out how to get him to issue a passport to his prime-minister designate. Megaphone diplomacy is pointless and just helps one massage their ego.

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Benefit of the doubt, my foot!

Do you 'think' that I am writing to please you? Or, for that matter, anyone else, the THE GREAT FIGHTER, inclusive?

I WRITE TO PLEASE MYSELF. DID YOU GET THAT? I WRITE TO PLEASE MYSELF. AGAIN, DID YOU GET THAT?

I shall perform a phenomenological excercise on your post: no one will miss the fact that IT IS CACAPHONOUS, nonsense.

Now, I shall convert your irrational verba, by and through an eidetic variation to a bucket of dirty water sans cholera; next, I now pour it on you, from head to toe.

How is that for a riposte to your silly, bomabastic trashy post?

Next time, if sense you have, you will read and reread BEFORE YOU POST.

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Well since I figured you out as a North Korean educated hack, I find your rants amusing. We don't use the "N" word here in the USA anymore. It is only used in black communities by blacks. President-elect Obama will be my president. I didn't vote for him but that is our freedom. No one came to my door to beat the hell out of me like Mugabe's 5th Brigade does even today in Zim. I also note in your comments you never refer to the plight of the common people. You just hate everything.....Damn man, your people are dying and you are just spewing hate for anyone who wants to help your countrymen. Get a grip....Do something useful, try to stem the Cholera epidemic. Mugabe sure isn't doing anything useful. But then I look at the parallels between present day Zimbabwe and North Korea...They are starving just like y'all..Brutality and Starvation.....you got that down pat.

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The lie of the century: "We don't use the "N" word here in the USA anymore."

You must be lunching,dide.

Get a grip? The pot calling the kettle black.

Talk about helping "your countrymen", get real dude. I suppose you were deep sixed during Katrina, and other sites of African-American dehumaization in the USA, where, you mendaciously aver, the "N" word is no longer used. Good God almighty!

The "N" is no longer used in USA? A greater lie has never been told.

Call the Washington Post to confirm my averment. Dude, the N word is used de rigeur in the USA every minute, hour, and day.

Get a grip? The pot calling the kettle black.

Talk about helping "your countrymen", get real dude. I suppose you were deep sixed during Katrina, and other sites of African-American dehumaization in the USA, where, you mendaciously aver, the "N" word is no longer used. Good God almighty!

The "N" is no longer used in USA? A greater lie has never been told.

Call the Washington Post to confirm my averment. Dude, the N word is used de rigeur in the USA every minute, hour, and day.

Your ignorance knows no bounds. I have never heard the "N" word ever been used in any part of the world that I have traveled to adn am happy that it is so. Seems the only people that use the word today are you and a few of your mates on this site to try to portray African leaders that are opposed to Mugabe. You seem to try to make yourself into a Malcom X or the like, and we all know what happened to him!

I have read all these comments but i have not seen any suggestions on how to resolve this crisis from mugabe and his party. Can someone from zanu pf please tell us how they hope to end this crises. We seem to have lost focus here. I am no supporter of odinga but he suggested something. Just come with a solution and stop blaming others. People are dieing.

Their suggestions are always the same... "Destroy the colonialist nations, and only then will we prosper." Then, once the west is no more, it will be "Destroy the Shona / Ndebele / Zulu / any other tribe close at hand, and only then we will prosper." And when there is nothing else left but a mass grave stretching from Atlantic to the Indian Ocean, it will be, "Destroy ourselves, and only then we will prosper in the afterlife."

How many Africans will follow these solutions to the very end?

Listen North Korean educated person: my name is not Dude, it is Bob. Thought you were smart enough to figure that out by now. And for the most part, the "N" word is not used in educated and polite parts of this country, even here in Texas. It is used is ghetto's and areas that are almost totally black. Whites don't need to because it is a totally stupid slur.....but you wouldn't understand that. I kind of figured that you, with your flaunting your education would make your statements a little more educated. But I guess you don't get that in downtown Pyongyang.

DUDE, I shall be wasting my time if I should essay to respond substantively to your mendacious post.

I don't respond substantively to posts that butcher the English Language.

Learn how to write!

Accordingly, I now declare a grammatical assault on any of your postings. I now throw you in the same bag as the BONEHEAD, DUDE.

Aaah Texas Bob! He's correcting your English as well. Clearly a sign that he has nothing intellectual to provide us with on the topics it hand. And clearly he doesnt understand that the whole point of communication is to be understood thats important, not the way that its communicated.

DUDE, the extent of your mendacity is volcanic: some Americans, 'black' and 'white,' use the word "nigger" in the United States of America every second, minute, hour and day, AND year in and year out.

DUDE, YOU MUST BE ROCKING IN ZONE DENIAL.

Why, you don't want Africans in Africa to know that their brothers and sisters in the USA are sometimes called "niggers?"

Assuredly, your handlers gave you an impossible task. Give it another shot, DUDE!

Looks like jallohlaw discovered the Thesaurus. Pretentious fool :-D

It is not the first time that Odinga is implicated in subversion and conspiracy to create mayhem and havoc.

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By now, the people of Kenya have come to know fully who Odinga is - a pathological busybody and foreign lackey who would give succor and comfort to the native's enemies and thereby bring harm to Mother Africa and the people of the age-old glorious kingdoms of Africa..

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People of goodwill the world over call on the people of Africa to reject Odinga and for Kenyans to oust subversive Odinga from power.

More lies? I mean you get busted telling one, and then everything else you say becomes questionable. Its called credibility. Something you dont have.

TO THE PEOPLE OF KENYA:

The AU has decisively and unequivocally rejected the bellicose rants of ODINGA against the Sovereign State of Zimbabwe.

Accordingly, this issue is closed.

ODINGA: YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED BY YOUR OWN COLLEAGUES AS A TOOL OF NEO-IMPERIAL INTERESTS IN AFRICA.

I wonder how the brave and honorable people of Kenya can TOLERATE your TYPE.

Soon, I predict, they will drop you like a hot blink, blink, and then it be high time to high fly it to Paris, similar to your colleague in Project Blink Africa, MT, the neo-con tail and sprinter.

Good luck on journey to hell!

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As I've said before, I dont care that my writing wont win me a literary prize. Its all about the message and the person behind the communication thats important. In your case you've got frilly curtains on the windows, but nothing in the fridge. And just so you know, I write documents for clients for my work that often over 100 pages long on tecnical and economic issues, and have never had any complaints, so I guess the proof that you are just being an ass is right there. Told any more fibs lately?

You have no room to talk jallohlaw. Your grammar is often atrocious and your sentences nonsensical. You write pretentious, meaningless rubbish.

GRAMMAR LESSON FOR MINDLESS

MINDLESS writes:

"You have no room to talk jallohlaw. Your grammar is often atrocious and your sentences nonsensical. You write pretentious, meaningless rubbish."

CORRECT ENGLISH USAGE:

"Jallohlaw, you have no room to talk. Your gammar is often atrocious, and your sentences are often nonsensical. You write pretentious rubbish." (Where a sentence is deemed "meaningless," as here, albeit wrongheadedly, it is ipso facto "rubbish."

May I suggest that you take some lessons in grammar and idiomatic usage from the Great Fighter in Harare, Cdr. MUGABE, who has perfect control over the syntactical, semantical and idiomatic structures of the Queen's language?

Wow, even in attempting to "correct" me you show that you don't truly understand English.

Firstly, putting your name at the beginning or end of the opening sentence is correct.

"Your gammar is often atrocious, and your sentences are often nonsensical"

The "are often" is not required in the second half of the sentence as it is implied by the first occurrence.

"Where a sentence is deemed "meaningless," as here, albeit wrongheadedly, it is ipso facto "rubbish." "

There is no such word as "wrongheadedly". What dictionary do you use? Dr Jallohlaw's Dictionary of Pretentious Words, 4th Edition?

Rubbish does not necessarily imply meaningless.

You write like someone who has learned English as a second language, and learned it by the book. You know some of the rules but not when they can be broken, or how they are best applied to the _living_ language.

I'm amused that you choose a politician as the benchmark for your grasp of the language. Politicians love to dress up their worthless diatribe in fanciful wording. No wonder you prefer style over substance.

GRAMMAR LESSONS FOR MINDLESS

Mindless, "wrongheaded" is an English word. May I suggest that your dearth of erudition mandates that you cannot recognize that the lexeme "wrongheaded" is a mindful way of saying "stupid." But, being mindless, I don't expect you to grasp THAT.

Your logic of implication is silly AND WRONGHEADED: you don't imply a GRAMMATICAL STRUCTURE, RATHER, YOU EXPLICITLY POSIT IT.

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Now I have you exactly where I HAVE BONEHEAD: PRODUCE YOUR EVIDENCE, INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL CRITIQUES OF THE SAME, INCLUSIVE, THAT THE WORD "WRONGHEADED" IS NOT AN ENGLISH WORD!

You may seek help from Cdr. MUGABE.

You mean Wrong-Headed! See the little bit in the middle of the two words.

"See the little bit in the middle of the two words."

ROFL! A perfect reply to Jallohlaw's long-winded response. (Or, as he would put it, "longwinded")

:-D

More please Jallohlaw, you brighten my day!

TO MINDLESS AND THE OTHER DUDE: the two boneheads:

Wrongeheaded, wrongeheaded, and wrongeheaded, again;

Again: wrongeheaded, wrongeheaded, and wrongeheaded, encore.

On the soul searing Socratic irony, see "More Grammar Lessons for Mindless," supra. Of course, boneheaded Mindless has no clue.

Very well then: wrongheaded, wrongheaded, wrongheaded; encore, wrongheaded, wrongheaded, and wrongheaded AND BONEHEADED MINDLESS.

"A mind is a terrible thing to waste."

Mindless is the essence of stupidity: boneheadedness.

Shall we have a vote on this proposition, people?

LOL! Jallohlaw, you act like a little school boy. The moment anybody makes a point that you cannot counter you resort to childish name calling. I can just see you now, standing in the school playground and shouting, "boneheaded, boneheaded, boneheaded'.

Don't forget to use the biggest words you can find when your reply so that you can make yourself appear more grown up than you really are.

:-D

Shallow-head is just a petulant child trying to take everyones focus off the issues at hand and waste peoples time on issues of grammer. In reality, the point of communication is to be understood. It doesnt really matter if its correct as long as you get the point across. I'd rather get my point across with bad grammer, than not with correct grammer. Remember, its not a literary competition here. Its about the issues at hand.

BREAKING NEWS

BONEHEAD AND MINDLESS have manifestly capitulated; crushed in zone language, BONEHEAD AND MINDLESS have become harmless pests.

Glory to Africa and Cdr. MUGABE!

Jallohlaw, you're such a clown. LOL!

If a clown, I am, then you are the head of my 'tribe': the 'tribe' of CLOWNS.

I notice, by the way, that your writing has somewhat improved, thanks, perhaps, to the hammer of the GRAMMAR LESSONS.

Being a cool African, I shall not take categorical credit for the state of affairs, and neither shall I essay to retrieve my earned pecuniary reward.

I suppose the generous African gene rocks in my soul; yet my mind, hardened and sharpened by DECONSTRUCTING, and that ceaselessly and mano mano, to boot, the infantile theoretical trash that has been thrown on Africa by archaic representatives of the West is always rocking in the African fire dance.

Glory to Africa and our ancestors brutalized by THE REACTION, OLD AND NEW.

"I notice, by the way, that your writing has somewhat improved, thanks, perhaps, to the hammer of the GRAMMAR LESSONS"

ROFL! Your "lessons" are worthless since most of your "corrections" have been entirely wrong. Your post above is likewise riddled with errors.

You must be very insecure to want so badly to impress people. Your delusions of grandeur might fool some people, but it's quite obvious to anyone with a half-decent grasp of English that your pretentious waffling has no substance.

Don't forget to look up some lengthy arcane words in your thesaurus for your next reply :-D

LUNATIC MINDLESS, YOU ARE EIDETICALLY WITHOUT A MIND.

Admit it: you can't write, and that is evidently manifest in your post supra. The thing speaks for itself.

"Delusions of grandeur", you stammer?

Please.

Before I arrived on the scene, you were like a hunter with a cough; only your interlocutors did not know that.

I observed your wobbly attacks on the Great Fighter and your absolute inability to control the structures of YOUR "mother tongue." What a shame?

Now, you got me on your back like a monkey.

Let us rumble, dude LUNATIC MINDLESS!

This number will take all complaints ; +234-8024872957

LMAO. You really are funny Jallohlaw, like watching a dog bark at its reflection in the mirror.

Whatever MINDLESS says is logically mindless.

The tail of the reaction, smashed in Harare by ZANU/PF, NOW SEEKS REFUGE HERE.

I AM HERE TO BUST "RHODESIANS."

And, since day one I have been bulldozing the troika and the dude from DixieTexas.

And loving it!

Beyond all that: WE GOT THE LAND, DUDES.

Blah, blah, "reaction", blah, name calling, blah, incorrect use of archaic word, blah, drivel, repeat ad nauseam. You're so predictable Jallohlaw :-D

ROCKING NEWS

The representatives of THE REACTION, SELF-CONFESSED RACISTS (See their posts supra), are now reduced to baby babble, an apt image of RACISM, AN ARCHAIC, IRRATIONAL CULTURAL ATTITUDE.

Pathetic!

Glory to Cdr. MUGABE, THE RACIST CRUSHING MACHINE IN THE CITY OF AFRICAN POWER, HARARE, AND MAY GOD BLESS ZIMBABWE AND SEND "RHODESIA" TO AN INFERNO THAT TRANSCENDS ANY AND ALL ACTUAL AND IMAGINARY INFERNOS.

Heart felt sympathy from the city of ONE LOVE for the lost 'Rhodesian' souls in this forum: the trioka and the dude from DixieTexas.

May God have mercy on your 'souls!"

Surprise, surprise, more predictable gibberish from Jallohlaw. :-D ROFL!

Who cares wether english is mundered or not. Most of the people in this site are not Englishmen. Wether they make grammatical errors or not it doesnt matter. I dont use english when i know the person i am addressing can understand any other language. Back to the main issue what should be done about Zimbabwe and Mugabe. Any suggestions?

What is going to happen to the people of Zimbabwe? Is the cholera epidemic getting worse? What is being done to stop the cholera and end inflation? Does Cmdr Mugage have a solution? Please help!

Just don't ask the tails of THE REACTION and its tails---the troika---in this site.

They proudly proclaim that they are NOT Africans: 'Rhodesians' they are, toto caelo.

Did I call them such? Or, did you?

No. They did call themselves 'Rhodesians', and everyone knows that 'Rhodesians' were bulldozed by the guns of DO or DIE African warriors led by the MAN OF THE HOUR, THE DEPOSITORY OF AFRICAN DIGNITY: Cdr. MUGABE.

Glory to Africa first; second, glory to Cdr. MUGABE.

Salutations from the City of Honor, the City of the reflective self-assertion of AFRICAN DIGNITY.