Shows how stupid mugabe is, you only get two terms in the US and Bush has always said the same about mugabe and bush is stupid! This means even an idiot knows how bad mugabe and regime is!

Crucially, Zimbabwe has been the greatest disapointment. Yes Mugabe was busy assassinating other leaders; Does the name Tongogara ring a bell? Mugabe cannot deny responsibility!! Each time Mugabe gives a speech, it is Brown, Bush and Sarkoz and now the equation will shift to include Obama. Why has Mugabe turned into a monster? "Zimbabwe is mine"!! My foot!! Only the Ancient African Kingdoms had that sickening mentality. How can a human being who is mortal claim that other humans are his and can choose what to do with them. God forgive us; just where are we going? We had thought African independence would bring civility to that dark continent ; We believed Mandela brought the message of forgiveness that other African leaders looked up to! It hasnt instead we have nurtured monstrosity, thuggery, corruption and God knows what. We have no hope at all in Africa. Mugabe has wiped that out. We will perpertually remain a begger continent; a wondering and nomadic continent; a people ever in diaspora and a disorganised continent. We will forever habour anger towards the West. We will hold that anger for ever, thanks to Robert Gabriel Mugabe! Sad really. Africa has no future whatsoever for democracy, freedom and peace. These virtues will always be defined by the likes of Mugabe for all of us. We thought that Africa can avoid a war, but from the look of things, the arrogance and impunity of Mugabe is providing the required starter. What right has Mugabe got to talk about other leaders in that manner? That imbecile!

Makes us all wait and know that Obama is going to be a million times harder on mugabe and the world will finally have the icon that stands for most people of the world! Obama is going to totally destroy mugabe and regime once and for all!

Cdr. MUGABE'S averment needs no gloss: it is evidently true.

That said, boneheaded west-'rhodesian,' why do you want to drag a smart Chicago politico such as Obama into a fight he knows he cannot win?

Do you imagine that Obama is stupid?

Stupid: do you imagine that the man who OPPOSED the neo-con trashy construct of 'regime change' in far away Iraq is going to APPLY it to Zimbabwe?

I suppose, one must, to stitch your rhapsodic reflection with the thread of coherence, assume that you assume that Obama is some baby bush.

Pathetic, boneheaded 'rhodesian.'

CHEERS FROM THE FEARLESS CITY, THE CITY OF FORTITUDE, THE CITY OF THE MILITANT, URBANE AND MILITARIZED SELF-ASSERTION OF AFRICAN DIGNITY, HARARE.

Thanks, Sir. Obama will be stupid but less stupid than Bush of course. In America, it is about their interests more than personalities, really. There is not going to be too much policy shifts in Obama's foreign policy. I say he will be significantly less stupid becoz as of now America is in big economic mess for any President to start focusing on issues like those in Zimbabwe. The fact is, Obama needs to save nearly half of Americans from losing their jobs, houses, humanity and American pride, companies from closing down, Iraqi/ Afghanstan wars - not to mention the prospects of losing the super-power status to Russia, China and India.

Anyway, Bob aptly describes what the Americans and the British are. They are plainly stupid. And they assume Africans do not get to know their game. How can many SADC and AU countries blindly support the GPSA in Zimbabwe if it's not the best option for now for Zimbabweans? Who would be in a better position to understand this, Westerners or Africans? Africans less Raila and Khama. Raila never asked for African troops to intervene in Kenya where the election violence he was part to killed more Kenyans than Zimbabweans who have died from cholera to-date? And for a less stupid Obama this will be easy to understand.

jallahlaw or whatever your name is please make no more comments b/c it just shows you are a supporter of Mugabe and well not a very wise one, so maybe he should fire you if he is trying to convince people of what he is doing is right. Of course that is impossible b/c a majority of the world already knows Mugabe for who he is so only South Africa, China and Russia along with a few other countries support him..

AND THE SAME TO U WHOEVER YOUR NAME IS. U cannot house your people they way they are housed here - IT COMES WITH EDUCATION TO CHANGE U

Hey go and dosomething constructive like doing volunteer work which u cannot do unless u get paid for it!!!and help other communities!!!

Idiots takunya_ndebvu, Jallohlaw and consorts must know that it's Zimbos who should be vigilant against murderer Mugabe & his gang who have sucked almost all the blood out of the citizens. Even the Christian churches have chastised bloodstained Mugabe. Zimbabwe will be better off should that lunatic disappear from the scene.

Hail Zimbos who can still survive Mugabe's vile attempt to enslave them!

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Mugabe is insane...Zimbabwe is worthless and has nothing to offer to the civilized world. I mean who wants to eat and drink there own turds or chase crickets just to get a meal. There is nothing Zimbabwe has that people want period.

Do you think you are worth of a person if you think like this? Ndaseka zvangu. Waita Xmas yangu nhasi.

Hondoyeminda02 christmas yako icholera iri kuZimbabwe.

Manowar,

If there is nothing in Zimbabwe that people want, why is the Bush and Brown regimes having sleepless nights devising ways means of ousting our President? They have tried everything in the book to get rid, not only, of President Mugabe but Zimbabweans at large by spreading HIV/AIDS, Cholera, Anthrax and Syphilis.

They have imposed sanctions which are killing us in our thousands. They have bought-out some of our neighbours to allow them to use their territories as military launching pads - Botswana being a case in point. Why are they doing all these dirty tactics if there was nothing in Zimbabwe?

They are obssessed with our country because there is something which they value very much and which we, Zimbabweans, are holding on to dearly - land and everything on and in it. This, Manowar, is what you cannot see or chooses not to see, with your very big eyes, aided by those thick spectacles, but, which we clearly can see because its ours.

Takunya, do you realise how easy your comments make it for everyone to see what an idiot you are? Still posting the same old lies I see...

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If Zimbabwe is such a 'basket case' why is the West so interested in whats happening? I suppose you will say because they LOVE African people - Please, what nonsense - the West is after the raw materials Zimbabwe has. It's as simple as that! Why don't you go and help Sudan, D.R.C or Iraq you good for nothing racist LOW LIFE!

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It's not about hating the West, but to advocate for global justice. We are no longer small boys besides our "cholera". And we want constructive criticism. Not racist madness. You and I know where Bob went "wrong". Attempting to correct historical imbalances in a very big and significant way.

You sound like you know a lot about New Zealand - what are the Maoris trying to do? And the dominant pakeha always throttle them - too many schemes and strategies and plans have been put in place to keep them at bay. They have become social outcasts in their own birthright place.

They now carry all negative labels to stigmatize them. They cannot get a decent education besides NZ being a developed country. They engage in all kinds of vice and crime to survive. And you wish Zimbabweans should be like that in their own country. Never ... Pasi Na Bush na Brown.

It's not about hating the West, but to advocate for global justice. We are no longer small boys besides our "cholera". And we want constructive criticism. Not racist madness. You and I know where Bob went "wrong". Attempting to correct historical imbalances in a very big and significant way.

You sound like you know a lot about New Zealand - what are the Maoris trying to do? And the dominant pakeha always throttle them - too many schemes and strategies and plans have been put in place to keep them at bay. They have become social outcasts in their own birthright place.

They now carry all negative labels to stigmatize them. They cannot get a decent education besides NZ being a developed country. They engage in all kinds of vice and crime to survive. And you wish Zimbabweans should be like that in their own country. Never ... Pasi Na Bush na Brown.

You seem to think you know a lot about NZ, but clearly you have never lived there or have any idea about the integration of maoris and pakeha in NZ. I've lived in NZ for over 20 years and am part maori myself, and am extremely proud of the racial tolerance in NZ. Maoris aren't looked down upon, even looked up to given their fantastic contribution to NZ sporting teams, including the AB's.how many NZ'ers don't get a shiver down their spines during a haka? You say they can't get a decent education? What nonsense. Why do you make this up? There is no difference in schooling for pakeha or maori in NZ, except for university where Maoris have a large proportion of their tuition fees paid by the state, hence having more affordable education than pakeha.you talk about negative labels to stigmatize them. More nonsense. What labels are you talking about? Stop making this shit up.

As for where the butcher of harare went wrong, how about mass intimidation and murder of opposition candidates, how about the slaughter of some 20000 Ndebele people, how about not accepting that the majority of Zimbos don't want him in power and refusing to step down? How about when mugabe banned any aid during the election, how about suppression of free speach? I could go on for days.

Why do you support and condone a man who so blatently has beaten, raped, murdered and tortured your fello zimbos to keep power?

Awt_idependent,

So you acknowledge that the Moris are marginalised in New Zealand. They only contribute to "...NZ sporting teams, including the AB's.how many NZ'ers don't get a shiver down their spines during a haka?"

What about in the economic sphere, NO contribution; what about in politics, NO contribution; What about in the ownership of their indigenous lands - they own completely nothing.

Infact you treating them like aliens in their motherland. They are considered third class citizens in their own country of birth. What a shame for Awt's racist New Zealand!!!

Takunya, you just want me to bite don't you. Why do you insert the word "only" into "They only contribute to "...NZ sporting teams, including the AB's.how many NZ'ers don't get a shiver down their spines during a haka?" Clearly changes the meaning of what I wrote don't you think? I haven't got the time now to educate you on NZ politics, but its best not to guess when you don't know something don't you think? How many maori seats and ministers are their in NZ parliament? A greater representation than their proportion of population. So to say their is no maori contribution to politics is just idiotic of you. How many thousands upon thousands of acres of land is owned by the Ngai Tahu and other smaller tribes as a result of the Treaty of Waitangi? You clearly know nothing and have made a very badly uneducated guess. Grow a brain!

Awt_independent,

I expected to hear that the current Head of Govt in NZ is a Mori. This only goes to show that the Moris contribute nothing to the politics and economy of NZ. If anything, that have been force-marched into parliament are just a window dressing gimmick meant to cover up rampant racism in NZ.

In any case how would indigenous people be in the minority if they have not been ethnically cleansed? From what you said, you have succeeded in dividing the indigenous people of Mori Land into smaller tribes - divide and rule, ahaa.

Today they have no say in what goes on in govt except getting medals for NZ. They certainly will never dream of ruling NZ because they now are a "minority tribe" whose survival and wellbeing is at the behest of Awt his conquering clan.

Takunya, you really do need to be educated on NZ don't you. But its probably too much for someone with such a narrow mind.

For a start you need to learn how to spell. Its "Maori".

So because the hear of state is not maori, maoris therefore do not contribute to NZ politics and economy? So only 1 person contributes according to your logic? What nonsense.do you realise how irrational that is? As for being forced in, they are actually voted in. But i guess being voted in is a concept foreign to you in zim.

And now Maoris have been ethnically clensed? What dribble. Why do you make up such lies. As I said, you make it really easy for others to see what an idiot you are.

Maoris have never been one big tribe, they have always been tribal, long before Pakeha came to NZ.once again you lack an education and foolishly guess. And maori have a significant say in parliament with seats allocated specifically to the Maori.

You have clearly shown that you have an uninformed view of NZ so maybe its best you don't try and push you illogical opinions on something you clearly know nothing about.

Awt_independent,

Thanks for the spelling of "Maori". However, the issue remains that; how could new comers be a majority to the indigenous? You tell me that a whole clan of the Pakeha people came to NZ and immediately became the majority? What nonsense. This is a clear case of ethnic cleansing as practiced by Awt's clan against the once majority indigenous Maori people.

You say that "… maori have a significant say in parliament with seats allocated specifically to the Maori". Who allocates these seats in parliament which are specific to the Maori? What it means is that no other tribes can contest these seats except the Maori. The influence of the Maori ends in Parliament and no further and it is at the behest of Awt's clan which has ethnically cleansed the indigenous Maori people.

You say the "Maori have never been one big tribe, they have always been tribal, long before Pakeha came to NZ". How can the Maori be a minority and tribal before the coming of the Kapeha? If they were a majority at one time, when then did they become a minority and how? Obviously through ethnic cleansing!

When the Kapeha first occupied NZ, how many were they and what was the population of the Maori at the time of occupation? How and when did the Kapeha increase their numbers to become majority? It is clear to see that there was systematic ethnic cleansing followed by divide and rule, which works well for imperialist Awt. Today you can oppress the Maori people and dictate to them by allocating parliamentary seats which you can withdraw at any time of your choosing.

Again you continue to guess and make silly assumptions. This is like trying to educate a 5 year old on NZ politics. Pakeha, note the spelling, became the majority purely through immigration. Ethnic cleansing involves the slaughter of a particular race, which never happened in New Zealand.

Maori seats in parliament cannot be removed and are part of the electorial process. And yes, only Maori people can vote for these seats.

You say " How can the Maori be a minority and tribal before the coming of the Kapeha?" They were never minority before the pakeha, note the spelling, how could they be, they were there by themselves. And they were tribal, hence where a haka comes from.

Clearly again I show you to be simply making things up with no knowledge or evidence. I suggest you use google and learn something.

Awt_independent,

Once again thanks for the correction. I appreciate that. However, you did not answer my question.

I asked you what the population of the Maoris was before the coming of the Pakeha? At the time of invasion, what was the population of the Pakeha? Where did the Pakeha come from? What was the name of this country before invaders renamed it New Zealand?

"Pakeha ... became the majority purely through immigration". How is this possible without ethinic cleansing? Did the Maori, at one time, stop reproducing?

Just as in Australia, terrible things happened at the time of invasion. Many men, women and children were rounded up and systematically slaughtered by the invaders - ethnic cleansing at its worst. Short of genocide there is no way "immigration" alone could make indeginous people a minority, NEVER!!

Awt_independent,

Ignore the first entry!!

Once again thanks for the correction. I appreciate that very much. However, you did not answer my questions.

I asked what the population of the Maoris was before the coming of the Pakeha. At the time of invasion, what was the population of the Pakeha vis-à-vis the Maori? Where did the Pakeha come from? What was the name of this country before invaders renamed it New Zealand?

"Pakeha ... became the majority purely through immigration". How is this possible without ethnic cleansing? NO WAY!!! Did the Maori, at one time, stop reproducing?

Just as in Australia, terrible things happened at the time of invasion and after. Many men, women and children were rounded up and systematically slaughtered by the invaders - ethnic cleansing at its worst. Those who survived the genocide were systematically disorientated to the extent of not knowing who they are and where they are.

They were made drunkards; they were subjugated and were made slaves in their own country, which today manifests itself in the form of being made second class citizen who have to be ‘allocated’ Parliamentary seats specifically for them and no one else – modern apartheid.

Because of this the Maoris do not think much about their mother land except survival as everything, including breathing, is dependent on the master. Today one feels sorry seeing Aborigines and Maoris living in abject poverty, failing to raise their families and being outcasts in society.

Thus, short of genocide, there is no way "immigration" alone could make indigenous people a minority, NEVER!!

Takunya, I ignored the first entry and I probably should have ignored the second one as well. You clearly are guessing again and are simply making things up.

A bit of a history lesson try and educate you.

Between 1830 & 1880 the British tried their hand at subjugating a few "renegade" Maori tribes with skirmishes and a few all-out battles, but in the long run, they had no chance at defeating the Maori on their home turf.

By any measure, the maori was "out classed and out gunned" - yet they managed to thwart the British at every turn. Local knowledge and sheer cunning often took the day against British "Military Stratagies" and the firepower of the British was often directed against grounds that the Maori had evacuated hours - or days - previously! It was England's Vietnam! There was no way they were going to win.

The Maori's high sense of Dignity, Courage, and Fair Play baffled the British - who were just used to wholesale massacre as a Battle Stratgey (ie Zululand in Africa) and in the end the British had to call off the "Maori Wars" and sue for peace, even though they had superior weapons.

So in 1840 the British Government signed a Treaty with Maori Chiefs giving Maori the protection of British Citizenship and bestowing "unrestrained access to their land and traditional fishing". Obviously the British Government of the time recognised the Maori as the "Original Inhabitants" of the land, and bestowed "ownership" of New Zealand on them without question.

Although there are still disagreements over the Treaty of Waitangi, the respective sides conduct the negotiations with mutual respect, and with due deference to the elected New Zealand Government and the Law.

Hardly a case of the Maori's being forced into slavery in their own lands dont you think? The Maori's did what other idigenous populations failed to do and defeated the might of the British army by out thinking them. They invented trench warfare and forced the British into signing the Treaty of Waitangi, something you, Takunya, and your people, were unable to do.

To answer your question, the population of Maori at the time of Pakeha arrival in 1840 is estimated at around 100,000.

The figure of “about 50”, often quoted as the European population of New Zealand in 1800, is no more than a reasonable approximation. By 1815 the total of Europeans in New Zealand is believed to have been about 200. By the late 1830s the European population of New Zealand had risen to around 2,000. As a result of these colonising efforts, the European population in the period 1840–50 increased over tenfold, from about 2,050 at the beginning of 1840 to 22,108 in 1850. By 1851 a census, which was confined to Europeans, revealed a population of 26,707.

I hope this answers your question about "what the population of the Maoris was before the coming of the Pakeha. At the time of invasion, what was the population of the Pakeha vis-à-vis the Maori?"

As you can tell, there was no invasion or ethnic cleansing, the Maoris were too smart for that. And the population of the Pakeha only grew through immigration.

As for "Where did the Pakeha come from?" The were European, predominantly English with Dutch, Scottish and French settlements also

What was the name of this country before invaders renamed it New Zealand?

It was called Aotearoa, and still is affectionately called this by most New Zealanders today. Even the Maori anthem is sung before the English version.

""Pakeha ... became the majority purely through immigration". How is this possible without ethnic cleansing? NO WAY!!! Did the Maori, at one time, stop reproducing?"

Its very easy. Settlement in New Zealand occured at a much greater rate than population growth in Maori. Although Maori population did reduce over the mid part of the 19th century, this was due to the Maori being exposed to western diseases that they had no immunity for.

An estimated European population of 50 in 1800 had risen to 59,413 – about 51 per cent of the total population – in 1858. By 1901 Europeans formed 94·4 per cent of the population, and the proportion has changed very little since that time. The discovery of gold in 1861 was a dominant factor in the population increase of 157,024, or 160·38 per cent, during the period between the December 1861 and the February 1871 censuses.

And I bet you didnt know that the last pure blooded Maori person died in 1905. To be classed as Maori in Aotearoa only requires a person to be 1/64 Maori. or 63/64ths European.

Clearly your comparison with Australia are unjust, and given you have clearly made this up about New Zealand, what trust do I have in you that you havent done the same about Australia.

Saying that "they were subjugated and were made slaves in their own country" clearly I have shown is wrong.

And Maoris have seats allocated to them out of respect for the Treaty of Waitangi and that Maoris were original owners of the land. This have nothing to do with modern day Aparthied. I'm not even sure how you can draw that conclusion. Having a greater representation in parliament is surely beneficially to the Maoris is it not?

Clearly your last statement couldnt be further from the truth also

"Thus, short of genocide, there is no way "immigration" alone could make indigenous people a minority, NEVER!!"

I'll repeat that the discovery of gold in 1861 was a dominant factor in the population increase of 157,024, or 160·38 per cent, during the period between the December 1861 and the February 1871 censuses.

I hope I have managed to change your view of the treatment of Maoris in New Zealand. Maoris are true warriors with smarts. And managed to defeat the might of the British Army. Something you and your people failed to do. You should look up to us and respect us and not look down upon us as second class citizens as this is not the case. We are a proud proud people and proud of our history. We dont need your undeserved pity.

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Not a rhodie here. Never been one, never will be. Hence independent me!

Maybe the west is so interested in certain issues in Africa b/c it is clear the African leaders are not they are showing their selfishness and greed. So do not go off we want your materials and nothing else. As far as Materials well Mugabe has destroyed Zim so that statement alone shows your words are without facts. Zim has nothing left..

By the way this name calling that you do well shows how childish you are and well your comments show me you only listen to people and news that supports Mugabe so hey wake up and listen to all the news from all people...

Trust me I am in both places and racist is a name I found that would fit some Africans in hating this tribe or that tribe so you have no right to call someone racist when you are the real racist one..

You are obviously out of the loop; clueless and dense.

Just ask the REACTION what could be had in Zimbabwe?

More profoundly, Zimbabwe is the only African State that has stood up to the HUBRIS OF THE WEST, taking along the 'reputations' of the 'Elders', the pimps of image Africa.

That hustle is over: What Cdr. Mugage did was simple---he figured out the West's game: bombast.

Regime change, they all drone on, these Western imperialists: well, how about 'regime change' in China or North Korea?

They dare not, for that would be the beginning of the END of the HUBRIS OF THE WEST.

Cheers from the City of glorified HUMILITY, HARARE.

What mugabe did is Simply destroy Zimbabwe!

Zimbabwe's hardship is caused by people like you that just cannot let go. Lift your illegal sanctions and watch Zimbabwe turn around within three years. As for' Mr Independent', you should be ashamed of calling yourself part Maori because i have not yet met a Maori that does not agree with what Mugabe is doing. Mugabe is a hero to more people than you may think and if Zimbabweans don't agree with his methods then they can overthrow him not YOU! Like i said you are not even a Zimbabwean so why worry yourself? If you want to do good go and help Sudan, DRC or Iraq. In fact i watched a recent report on the THREE MILLION people in Somalia that are REALLY STARVING - why is it no one cares? Is it because Somalia does not have any raw materials that are needed? It is just greed, greed and more greed with your lot.

Kube, I am extremely proud to be maori, and to say that all the maoris you have met agree with Mugabe is simply a lie. Maoris are very civilised and proud people and would never agree with the violence that Mugabe has unleashed on his own people in his greed to keep power. Living in the sanctity of NZ you should know this. You and I both know that the people of Zimbabwe are against mugabe. And what sanctions! Please tell us!

Oh, and maybe I should apply your own principals of indeginous land ownership to you and come beat you up and take the land you own in nz off you. That would be fair in the world of kube wouldn't it!

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Drop your cris de couer at the Church of the Sell Out, Desmond Tutu.

Cheers from the THE CITY OF AUTHENTIC ARICAN RELIGION, HARARE.

Jabbajaw,get it straight please!The people of Zimbabwe voted Mugga out, PERIOD!!You also support Muggas'mates in the DRC and other regional sesspits, when you condone the violence and hatred spewed forth from this desperate, in denial dictator with his worthless propaganda ......Loser!...And also,by the way..STUPID HERALD!!

Jalohlaw, takunya and kubatana, you guys are just plain stupid. You must have been dropped on your heads the day you were born. Please can one of you tell me what sanction against Zimbabwe has been imposed? I don't want to hear what anyone threatened to do or what sanction was passed on Mugabe and some of his ministers but what sanction TO Zimbabwe was passed and by whom and when. As for the IMF, it will give Mugabe nothing because as you all know, the money will not be repaid - not even the interest. Zimbabwe has black-outs because it cannot pay its electricity bills. Who are causing those black-outs? Mugabe's own friends - Mozambique and South Africa, the main suppliers of electricity. You guys have such illusions about your lunatic and murderer leader Mugabe. If he was so loved by the world then where is the out-pouring of love and financial assistance, food, medicines and all other necessities from world leaders and citizens alike? The fact is not even your own African leaders care a hoot about you lot. They are just content making money on your country and the further Zimbabwe goes to pot, the more they profit, and if you do not see that then you are thicker than I thought. Look around you , you have no friends - not even the rest of Africa is lending you a hand.

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jallohlaw, it is no loss that you are not a Rhodie because the nonsensical rubbish you write would be such an embarrassment to them. Even though I would be proud to be an African, I am not so save your stupid "pill"

jallohlaw: You never actually SAY anything do you?

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Glyph, Happy new year to you and dont worry about Jabba, he's not even real , just a lonely imposter with a bad attitude

I suppose misery loves company.

Behold: words of comfort from one shadow, sewer soaked rhodie to another.

From Harare, happy new year, and this year too, this new African year too, THE LAND WIL NOT REVERT.

I suppose misery loves company.

Behold: words of comfort from one shadow, sewer soaked rhodie to another.

From Harare, happy new year, and this year too, this new African year too, THE LAND WIL NOT REVERT.

Incredible: a sewer soaked rhodie pity party.

Cheers from the City that SHALL never give up the LAND, HARARE.

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Blah blah blah. Whenever I see the Author as Shallowhead I simply pass over it now. No point wasting my time as its always incomprehensible nonsense and never adds anything, and its always the same. Nonsense followed by nonsense followed by nonsense. No doubt his reply to this will be the same... and prove me right...

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Jlaw, something you might find interesting.

The planning for military invasion has already started, i will not say whom is involved but can tell you there are a number of countries involved but not England except munitions and transport donations to the cause. I had to laugh at you sprouting of Zim warriors as it has been determined that it wil take 1 day at most to take the capitol and no more than 3 days to secure the whole country. To put that into perspective it means there will be next to zero resistance to the invasion because of the lack of arms and the moral being at its lowest possible. This means most soldiers will flee because they will not be willing to defend Zim as they do not see the value in dieing for mugabe and regime with the lifestyle they have had to endure under mugabe and regime. This is great news for Zim as it means very few people will die.

I was happy to find out about this because finally there will be a solution to the mugabe and regime problem. They will be blocking all borders air and land routes so they trap mugabe and regime in Zim so he can be bought they can be bought to trial as its been seen to be the only way to build the people of Zim's moral back very quickly.

This will happen in the next few months and mugabe and regime will not be notified for the obvious reason of wanting to entrap him and regime on home soil.

Finally the world takes action.

West, what do you base this upon? I really hope its true actually. The only way to remove this corrupt government it seems is by force. And if there's no deaths associated with it, then all for the better. Finally the will of the people will be enforced. Which is what everyone should want right?

Awt, i was privy to a document hence the vagueness of my post with regard to details.It will come out later but i am surprised Jlaw has not had a rant on it, along with his cronies on here.

I even noticed Jlaw said roddies would be hunted down outside of Zim, this goes against what all leaders go by and opens the door to mugabe and regime being dealt with. Besides the fact your talking about a military and command that is next to useless, it is laughable. The only reason mugabe is still breathing is because of the unwritten law that all leaders worldwide have, to protect themselves from assassinations from another country etc!

OLD BOB HAS MADEA COMPLETE IDIOT OF HIMSELF IN THE EYES OF THE WORLD THE WAY HE HAS BEEN BEHAVING RECENTLY HONESTLY ISNT THERE ANYONE CLOSE TO HIM TO GIVE HIM SOUND ADVICE!!!!

A sewer opinion sired by the impotent angst of political obscurantism, intellectual ineptitude, and moral decadence, if not nihilism and worse.

Man, you must be styling in domain perfidy: your controllers in Washington, London, and Paris know that Cdr. MUGABE is no "idiot."

Accordingly, YOU ARE THE IDIOT, n'est pas?

PROJECT SEWER OPINIONS EXCAVATION IN THE CITY OF LEVEL-HEADED OPINIONS AND STAY THE COURSE, HARARE

I think all jlaws rants should be collected and made into a comic book. It would be the funniest of stupid!

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Now, that's a Harare donkey spewing nonsense!