Are the Cameroonians listening? Biya has a similar ambiguos clause which states that upon his demise the speaker of the house shall rule for sixty days after which elections shall be organised and that the speaker shall not be a party to this election. Another recipe for chaos another shame for Africa ready and waiting to happen. Biya is also sid to be very sick and that he collapses every so often.

I get that feeling here in America that the Good Old Boys will still be ruleing from the outside.Remember,Brit/France only wants`to controll,not partnership.Where were Isreal 47/50 years ago?People with out a country. Now they do all the dirty work in the name of peace in Africa and South America.They have the worlds best military killing arsonal from Big George Bush.So,don`t invite the Colonies any place.God Bless Guinea.Oweij Liebo USA.

Nyerere: The worst civilian government is better than the best military government.

This development is a step backwards that nobody should have any illusions about it.

If the situation was so bad why didn't these opportunistic junior soldiers do something about it before ? These are opportunistic rogue retrogressives taking Guinea backwards. The regime should not be allowed to entrech itself in power as it is has already started doing by moving the date of establishing democractic rule from 60 days to now 2 years. They are simply buying time.

Within 24 hours 60 years have turned into 2 years, at that rate they will be declaring themselves rulers for life.

It is for the African Union (and the rest of the international community: the UN somebody) to isolate this madness that is keeping Africa on the political trajectory of one step forward and then 2 two steps backwards.

So far the SADC has failed Zimbabwe, ECOWAS should not failed Guinea too. Guinea has suffered enough. The best way forward is establishment of democratic order not a military junta that are always accountable to nobody and are inherently dictatorial since they gain and retain power without the consent or consultation of the ruled.

Nigeria and Ghana should not do a South Africa (Mbeki) on Guinea. Camara and his goons shouldn't be welcomed to the international fora unless they return Guinea to democratic rule.

Enough of THE SOUPIST STRUCTURE in the territories occupied by soupists---civilian or coupists---in West Africa.

Nyrere? What a joke? A wanna be 'philosopher'? By the way, he is one of the mendacious founding fathers of African 'independence,' founded on THE BIG LIE: THE EXISTENCE OF AFRICAN NATIONS.

DOWN with the icons of a fake 'independence', from Sekou Toure and Nkrumah to Nyrere and Kenyata!

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what are you even talking about???

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I'm sorry Mr. Jallow, but I am trying to understand as well what you are talking about, and I cannot find any definition of the word "soupist" in my dictionary at home, nor in an online version. Doing a google search of the word only brings up comments that you yourself have made on this website. Please define it again for us so that we can understand what, if any, point you are trying to make. If your so-called anti-soupism is truly a movement with any teeth, it should be able to be referenced easily via a dictionary or wikipedia. Otherwise, we are all likely to dismiss your comments offhandedly.

As a side, I like to hope for the people of Guinea that Mr. Camara is a better leader than President Conte. I have hope that he is a good person and will caretake the republic and deliver it safely back to the people of Guinea. There are still good people in this world who will use their power for good.

Good riddance to all the tyrant leaders of the world. Maybe Bush and Conte exiting will pave the way for more tyrannical presidents to be replaced. Peace and prosperity to the people of Guinea!

Please accept my apology if I came at you somewhat raw.

I created the concept as an attempt to understand the concept of underdevelopment in West Africa in particular.

Of course the revolution will not neither be televized nor googled.

Once again, there is a thorough explication of the basics of the concept in the Sierra Leone discussion section.

For starters, consider the following: Koroma of Sierra Leone attends the wedding of Kabba, and both are heads of 'opposing' political parties, and now in Guinea, the 'overthrown' civilians hang out with the coupists. Go figure.

Now, speaking for myself, and not the movement I lead, I tender that the underdevelopment of West African territories began, as others ( Gunder Frank in Latin America, among others) have theorized, began under European imperialism.

In my view, however, they incorrectly identified the trigger of underdevelopment: alienation of the resources to the imperium. Undoubtedly, that was the result of a founding structure: THE SOUPIST STRUCTURE.

Now, no one, as far as I know, has subjected this structure to any rigorous analysis: our project is precisely that, thereby declaring our intellectual independence from Western development 'experts', marooned in the IMF and the World Bank, among other sites of obscurantism and ideological obfuscation.

Cheers.

Is "SOUPIST" a new concept within the academic community? If so, the author need to consider seriously to register it so that it can be published and incldued in dictionaries. Fore now, let focus on how mto address the current issues in Guinea. I thank Mr. Jallow for bringing this issue up for clarification.

So let debate the followingL

The new president, Mousa Daid Camara, has indicated some serious measures to deal with corruption in Guinea and crime. Should death penalty be intoduced in Guinea? If no, why not?

If death penalty is not inroduced in Guinea, what should be the effective way (s) to deal with muderers?

What the new president should do with the Conte's old regime who have destroyed Guinea? Should they be jailed after a succesful trial? If no, why not?

I think that all Guineans should have a share in Guinea's mineral wealth and introduce free education and free medical tratment. What do people think?

Mohamed Kondeh

Sydney, Australia.

Perhaps you are dazzled blind by "the academic community"? What, in the name of the God of Erudition, is "the academic community."

Now, first, WE ARE NOT dazzled by the tails of the sedimentation of the cultural tradition of the West. I mean scholars. What the heck do you think is the function of scholars in any and all written cultural traditions? Now, "google" that one, Mister "google."

Count me out. Been there, done that.

Now, dude from Down Under, you've got some explaining to do. WHAT IS YOUR REFERENT OF THE 'CONCEPT' "ACADEMIC COMMUNITY?"

Moreover, you must have an esoteric concept of the concept of 'publication.' The concept of 'THE STRUCTURE OF SOUPISM' is fully published, herein, RIGHT NOW, and in other media.

Divine madness: in the context of a discourse of THE STRUCTURE OF SOUPISM, you naively posit a policy question---the death penalty.

Do you think we are interested in proposing policy options to soupist---coupists or civilians?

Don't you get it, dude: we don't care about the cognitive and pragmatic interests of soupist, again, civilian or nay.

Now, get it: our interest is unequivocally riveted on the DESTRUCTION of THE SOUPIST STRUCTURE, not its reformation.

We are not Protestants.

Finally, we will obviate and nip in the bud any and all essays to abort our interest by silly 'academic' definitional, notional and similar egg headed desiderata.

We don't care about Western scholars whose business is to solidify the very structure we seek to DECONSTRUCT, INTELLECTUALLY AND PRACTICALLY.

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Try the "World Power syntax Dictionary" Published by the "Reader's Digest Association".

Arguably, you make a lot of sense but how then can we begin to excite real change as the old gaurd have no integrity and lack vision while those of us with solutions rather give in to western comfort and complaceny while the new gaurds roam streets with guns instilling fear amongst the minoity intellectuals struggling to exercise discipline and responsibility rather than rights and corruption. Its time we move foward from casting blame, rather, provide and enforce solutions and accountability, respectively. Dr. Diallo, Maryland

Respectfully, Dr. Diallo, the destruction of THE SOUPIST STRUCTURE requires intellecutal exertion ONLY as a NECESSARY, but not sufficient condition.

The strategic decision of the Revolutionary Movement to be SILENT ABOUT WHAT IS TO BE DONE is principled (we don't tell the people how to live through their lives---soupists do that) and pragmatic, on two grounds: first, it would CLEARLY contravene the policies of this website and, second, don't you know that the most boneheaded hunter, according to a Mandingo proverb, is the one with a cough?

As to the so-called comfort 'enjoyed' by Africans in the West, may I suggest that the intellectual alienation gnawing their souls trumps any and all such comfy life situations.

Bluntly stated, the mentioned intellectuals are slaves working to develop the literary (which includes scientific and technological spheres) traditions of the West.

Now, I don't know too many people who would understandingly and voluntarily submit to the infamy of slavery.

Cheers.

I wish I could understand what you are saying. Is it possible for you to put it in plain english? What is SOUPIST and COUPIST? I cannot find these words in a regular dictionary. Do you have a special one? Please let me know where I can get one.I wish someone would suggest a form of government that will work for nations with overwhelming majorities of massive sub-subsistence, illiterate people and small semiliterate monorities. In this situation you have fertile ground for people with little knowledge to reek havoc. This is what is happening in most African countries and the present political organizational alternatives have proven to be unsuitable.

He's saying, "Look at me! LOOK AT ME! I WILL FLING POO AT EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING UNTIL SOMEBODY LOOKS AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

Yes, I agree with you. The only problem, looking at him will waste a good time. May be, an ignored strategy may work so that we can spend our time debating for realistic results.

Mohamed Kondeh

Sydney, Australia.

Listen bastions of diversion and obscurantism and stupidity: the lackeys from Down Under and the rhodie from Ian's ZANU/PF demolished 'rhodesia', I HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO EXPLAIN CRAP TO YOU.

THE CONCEPT of THE STRUCTURE OF SOUPISM is sufficiently explicated in the Sierra Leone and the Gambia discussion sections.

Mr. Diallo (MD, USA) had no problem understanding the concept, as evidenced by his response to my initial post on the SOUPIST COUPISTS in Guinea.

Now, this is the last time I am going to entertain your juvenile rants. The next time, dudes, it will be ALL OUT WAR in verba (another one, phenomenon philological, for you illiterates to "google").

Now, the proverbial ball is your court of ignorance and stupidiy: shoot, and reflective rockets will rain on your heads rocking boto bata with pea brains.

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The real problem is, the poop he's flinging is getting into the water supply and giving people cholera.

The boto bata, trash of the droppings of a pea sized brain: isn't this the acme of obscurantism, the zenith of the destruction of the intellectual powers of the sewer shadows of rhodies gone bananas, gone to the valley of senseless talk, and marooned in zone reactive?

Socratic musings from the CITY OF REFINED RELECTION AND ACTION, HARARE.

Military Coup in Guinea: a political and Leadership Crisis Again, we give up to hope rather than sacrifice for what is right. Guineans must realize that no worthy cause is neither accomplished nor realized without an act of sacrifice and courage by its people. At a critical period with excellent opportunity to risk and claim the inalienable rights, freedom, justice and liberty for individual and collective progress for the people, we cowardly and unpatriotically settled for another military Junta; risking the future of a country and its potential for progress, once more. Why do we have to settle for a military rule that states no objective vision for the people or the country? Is this our only viable option as the country lack direction, process and leadership at present? As much as I am critical and opposed to the previous government, we must use the fractured law soon, to continue with a peaceful democratic and civilian transition with organized elections, monitored by the west to secure a brighter future lead by personalities with great visions for the country and character to steer the course for democracy, implement a living constitution that separates the various branches of government with full funding, authority, accountability, resources and independence to weed corruption, incompetence and exercise law and order, once and for all. I realized the obvious vacuum of leadership, its implication on stability, and challenges partly because of political and leadership failures by the previous government. If that option is not viable, we must state a time frame objectively for military rule and benchmarks to target corruption, institute effective governance and plan for a civil transition to civilian rule via transparent elections. However, the history of this region and military rule is not assuring that power will be transferred over to civilian authority once a military rule is in place. As such, the country is better of risking a political, civilian and democratic process with the assistance and support from the AU, EU, UN and US toward a promising democratic path. The challenge now is the lack of leadership, process, resources and finance to realize a smooth transition. As such a military rule to secure the nation and bring about process is paradoxically appealing to resolve the current deficit in leadership and process. Essentially, Africa must now start precedence, sending a message to the military that their role and function precludes internal political matters but rather security from external threats and national logistic support during crisis directed by civilian authorities in leadership as appropriate, otherwise, risk treason. However, to realize such goals, leadership has to secure effective process and groom future leaders in such capacity to prevent a leadership vacuum. For Africa and Guinea in particular to realize an effective governance and national progress, development and acceptance in the free market and in the United nations as a democratic nation, she will need leaders with vision; leaders that exemplify character, selflessness, and sacrifice to pursue a progressive vision for the country contrary to the late president’s practice of ineffective management, cronyism marked by an epidemic of cultural corruption. When I heard the new Junta leaders praising the late president courage and leadership, after 24 years of corruption, it reassured the adage of new boys with old boys mentality; it signifies that no change is evident in this new venture, if the attitude and psyche of cronyism, nepotism, dictatorial incompetence, remains the same within the remnants from the previous government now acting within the new military administration. If this is what the people wants, then they are responsible for the doom that is imminent in their future unless they demand effective governance, accountability, responsibility and transparency at all levels. My appeal as an African and an American is that the West should condemn this illegal act by a military junta, suspend all diplomatic relations, government and non -government aid programs until the military retreat to their respective camps, or if the citizens accept an interim military transitional government, then a clear vision, and benchmarks must be outline before any aid or programs are disseminated to support current government and private sector programs. We must state firmly that the country and government belongs to the people and such actions are unacceptable and will not be tolerated by the citizens. A peaceful protest must ensue in condemnation of all military coups to denounce acts of corruption, cronyism and nepotism, appropriately. Dr. Diallo, Maryland, USA

I totally agree with your suggestions. I am ready to go to Washington or New York to protest for the social justice of all Guineans. Me must protest in order to cure the "cancer politique" of our leadership in Guinea.

Democracy was created for the specific purpose of allowing "coups" to take place without violence, through the ballot box. As long as Africans, from the most lowly of beggars to the most haughty of leaders, remain convinced that a change in leadership is the most horrible thing that can ever happen to a nation, there will be no true democracy in Africa. The military will continue to usurp the will of the people with their guns, and the citizens will continue to encourage them to do so in the name of loyalty to their own authoritarian principles.

Coup is an undesirable phenomenon but it is hard to argue against it in the case of Guinea, especially for millions of Guineans that are suffering as results of Conte’s despotic years. Conte came to power in the early 80s through Coup though he tried to legalize his regime by racked elections, but in reality there was no actual change. His so-called democratic years were no different from his military dictatorship.

Government jobs were offered to his friends and relatives with no accountability at all. He was unapologetic to people’s sufferings and didn’t do anything to improve people’s lives despite Guinea massive natural wealth. When the prime mister, Lasana Koyateh was appointed through negotiation after the long strike with the trade unions, in the few times, Mr. Koyateh was in office, conditions were improving and it was agreed he couldn’t sacked the prime minister arbitrarily without consultation with Guinean stake holders, but he fired Mr. Koyateh without any regard to the accord.

President Conte overstayed his welcome. 25 years are just too long a time for ripping Guineans off the most needed resources. As much as we desire peaceful power transfer, letting the head of the general assembly took over, would have been a continuation of Conte’s terms eventually paving the way for Conte’s son to take over.

The AU, ECOWAS and the international community now need to make sure the military organize free and fair elections soon to alleviate the sufferings of many in this reach land of Guinea.

You can think until your brains gush out; you can reflect, then reflect on your reflection, you will never rationally determine the structure of West African politics until you recognize that the game was up with British and French colonialism: these moribund thieves.

Elected soupists are no different from coupist soupists: the coup, qua phenomenon, offed because the militarized segment of the soupist state correctly perceived that the citizens of the Imperia would not entertain an imperial involvement in their governments' former 'colonies.'

Given the motivations of soupism, the coup in Guinea, any coup in soupified West Africa, can be reversed by a formidable cadre of militants who are willing and able to fight to the death. Now, whether such a force offs from the West or nay is irrelevant.

Where soupists, civilian or coupists, see---plain and clear---that the opponent is willing to die in the battle field, they flee, for soupism is institutionalized EGOISM, and no habitualized ego in mode soupist, wants to die, for in death the PRIZE DISAPPEARS: THE OCCUPIED TERRITORY'S TREASURY.

Accordingly, theory and practice dictate the determinate and unequivocal condemnation of BOTH 'ELECTIONS' AND COUPS. AND WE NOW CONDEMN THEM. THEY ARE BOTH SOUPIST SCAMS.

Since THE SOUPIST STRUCTURE lacks a decisive HORIZONAL determinant of the bourgeois version of elections, namely the nation, they are seeded in the horizon of two phenomena: THE COUP AND THE ONE PARTY STATE.

It should be noted that these determinations of THE SOUPIST STRUCTURE are, loosely speaking, MORPHOLOGICAL DETERMINATIONS: accordingly, they transcend, nay obviate the habituality of any individual soupist. Personal traits are irrelevant, therefore.

All soupists, civilian or coupist or one party staters are REGIMENTED by THE SOUPIST STRUCTURE to rain suffering on their captured populations.

Hence, we REJECT the concept of 'neo-colonialism' for the old Colo never left: it is called THE SOUPIST STRUCTURE.

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It is sad that the AU and other regional bodies do not seem to address the underlining causes of coups, rather, they find it expedient to raise their voices only when the hot water explodes into their faces.

When we elect civilian governments, we do so with the expressed knowledge and intention that these civilian governments will rule according to the dictates of applicable laws, respect for human rights, embrace all clans/tribes and work toward the upliftment of their citizenry.

What we see however is the continued looting, endemic corruption, wantom disregard to the rights of people and the turning of state institutions into fiefdoms to suppress the citizenry. Courts do not dispense justice by the books, rather, they have become bed fellows of the executive with legislative bodies fast asleep or in most cases, part of the looting of state coffers.

These are reasons why coups are made, but do our civilian governments ever learn from the past? No, and the reason is that they have realized that nobody has the stomach for coups or coups are no longer fashionable anymore especially in the 21st Century.

That assumption however gives them a false sense of security that empowers them to wreck economic and social havocs against the citizenry.

If we see the resurgence of coups in West Africa, it is because our political leaders are drunk in power, have lost focus the moment they assume power, and do not understand the tenets of democracy.

Just hear President Kufour of Ghana saying that corruption started from the days of Adam and Eve, and that it is all a perception and not a reality when the people are seeing otherwise.

Until our political leaders learn the actual meaning of governance, coups will always be welcomed in West Africa with flowers and fanfare.

These regional bodies must set up governing oversight bodies within their organizations to police how politicians are running the affairs of government, and must be bold enough to bring out their shortcomings to the fore, other wise, we will continue on the slippery slope that we are currently on.

Soldiers will always see opportunities to test their itchy fingers when politicians fail to govern. Democracy is not an abstract doctrine, but one with meaning which unfortunately our politicians are yet to grasp.

Setting aside the THE ISSUE OF THE EFFORTLESS destruction, DECONSTRUCTION (AUFBAU) of the concept of democracy, do you seriously---I mean, subsequent to a methodically controlled reflection--- maintain that "abstractions" are "meaningless?"

If that is your position (an abstractive-metaphor, by the way), then trash all your books on political 'science', physics and, the commanding sphere of the many kinds of mathematics, for all these phenomena are nothing but IDEALIZED ABSTRACTIONS.

NOW WHAT DO SAY, DUDE?

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It is interesting to note that the AU is quick condemn the coup leaders in Guinea while looking the other way in the case of Zimbabwe' Mugabe. How about execising the same muscles wherever democracy is threatened in Africa...

The AU moves is highly welcome, but what others does not understand is that the suituation in Zimbabwe is quiet different from what is happening in CONAKRY. I swear that the west should be blame for the zimbabweans suffering in another hand the Mdc leadership is also a complice to this sufferings.Mugabe can be a dictator or whatever we are calling him but is far more better than Morgan, who is a really pupet and someone who will only be in for the west intrest in zimbabwe. Am an african i also sympatise with my fellow zimbabwean brothers and sisiter but Africa still needs heroes to fight for our intrest lets gives hand to them.

Yeah, Mugabe says "Zimbabwe is mine" and the foreigners are responsible. Mugabe says" only God can remove him from power" and the Westerners are responsible. Mugabe says" a ballot cannot remove him from power" and foreigners are responsible. Mugabe says" there is no cholera in Zimbabwe" even though hundreds have died and dozens are still dying, and the foreigners are responsible. The foreigners are responsible for Mugabe holding on to all the MAJOR MINISTIRIES and not wanting to share anything with the opposition. Yes, the foreigners are responsible for all the KILLINGS AND ABDUCTIONS taking place in Zimbabwe by ruling party activists.

Shame on us Africans. WE WILL REMAIN RETROGRESSING SO LONG AS WE CONTINUE BLAMING OTHERS FOR OUR SELF-MADE MISERY.

Yeah Yeah Zimbabwe Ruins is mine!

What actually are your interests as African other than respect for human rights, which is being denied vehemently by your so-called heroes- Mugabe and his likes?

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Who are those who make up [AU] the majority of them are dictators of the first order like Paul Biya of Cameroon.They comdemn the coup just because of fear that it can also happen in their country.The military had been a very strong arm of all these dictators because they use them to mim,kill and oppress the people.most of them are in power just for the military backing that they have.In cameroon the military is the highest paid salary wise and Dictator Biya uses them to oppress the masses when they come out to cry foul to his wantom ugly way of ruling,after rigging elections.Biya has just one duty in cameroon,get money from the poor people through heavy taxes,divide it into three parts,take his own share to bank abroad,pay the military and civil servants.If he successfully does these the common man can die.that is a president for the military .The military in Cameroon is the most docile in the world,to me there is no need for it.To cut a long story short some people in military uniforms are far better than civilians presidents for most cases of corruption,embezzlement,tribalism are seen in the likes of Biya,Omar Mbongo etc all civilian presidents.A good man can be militaryman and also a civilian.If those in GUINEA HAVE COME TO RESCUE THE POOR THERE GOOD AND FINE,I WISH THEM THE BEST IN DUTY.Happy New Year.

The AU is less than a toothless mouse. This Nkrumaist bunkum maps Nkrumah's stupidity: unfounded speculative flights.

Here, by the way, is the stupidity of Nkrumah: had he believed IN the unity of Africa, he should not have accepted the 'grant' of 'independence' from Imperialist Britain. But, he did.

Therefore, he is not only a theoretically dense fellow, but a pragmatically inept soupist politician.

You'd recall that this was the fellow who dabbled in 'Marxist' obfuscationist theorizing. In a dazzling display of hermeneutical ignorance, he posited three traditons in his wobbly philosophical concept of 'African Unity.'

Mr. Soupist Nkrumah should have recognized that the traditions of Islam, Christianity and whatever are soaked in the reflective river of inconsistencies. So, how can they unify anything?

Excuse me, the dude went to Lincoln University in Pennnsylvania, not Harvard or Heidelberg or other sites of the propagation of a Western Tradition gasping for rejuvinatiive mojo.

THIS TIME WE SHALL EXPOSE THE FISSURES IN THE MONSTER.

And now to the AU. Its concept of "democracy" is lifted wholesale from the indoctrination cells of Oxford and Harvard.

Silly.

WE DECLARE OUR INTELLECTUAL INDEPENDENCE FROM THE WESTERN TRADITION ON ANY AND ALL MATTERS RELATING TO HIGHER UNDERSTANDING, NOT TO MENTION EVERYDAY UNDERSTANDING.

AND, WHO DOES NOT KNOW THAT THE AU IS THE SPOKES INSTITUTION OF AFRICAN SOUPISTS---CIVILIANS AND COUPISTS?

Silly CAMARA, the coupist soupist, directed and regimented by THE SOUPIST STRUCTURE--- the unconscious of African politics---now appoints a civilian Prime Minister.

Camara, the coupist soupist, you fool no one, but yourself.

We got your number, dude.

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