Mugabe should be accountable to the suffering and pain experienced by these abductees. There are no two ways.

Loshto, I sadly must agree with you on this post and your other related post.Even a magistrate who has ordered a show of humanity is defied by these Hyenas who masquerade as upholders of the law.People of Zimbabwe and Africa as a whole see here now your true enemy.Dont be fooled by lies and the ghosts of the past,Mugga and his likes are sucking the lifeforce out of Africa .All this time whilst those that can help sit by and do nothing.All the while,the strength and courage of the good people of Zimbabwe who are beaten and oppressed still wont bow to this tyranny.You are an inspiration to a world where freedom,justice and compassionate humanism is taking second place to the greed and corruption of what should be responsible powers.Let us all join together and put the dictators out of business.

buddhamate, Dec 26 22:17:41 2008 .. " Loshto, I sadly must agree with you on this post and your other related post ..."

Buddhamate, If you always agree with Loshto, then you contribute no information and your blather here is at best superfluous and it unnecessarily clogs up the internet bandwidth.

We gladly release you from any obligation you may feel to present comments here ...

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I certainly do not approve of injustice and the absence of the rule of law anywhere wherever. But the security of the state is paramount and the foremost important thing to all citizens of any country ... including the USA, UK and our Great Zimbabwe. When America was faced serious threats from those the USA referred to as "terrorists", the American gvt rightly took measures to protect welfare of country and people ...thay sent their agents all over the earth and into space to eliminate and neutralise this threat...remember tha reeditins activities and the effective detention centre off Cuba. Who would not do that when faced with the tragedy of the ThreeTowers in NewYork. The uk made laws which allowed the authorities and security agents to arrest/detain, take you to special set up interrogation centers, eg Paddington Police, and hold you there at the pleasure of her Majesty .... indefinitely. Who would not understand that all these laws are in the best interests of ALL who love peace and the rule of law through out the British isles. Surely one would not deny the gvt of Zimbabwe the same tools, especially that it is operating in a war environment against the most powerful collection of people ever existed on the planet...namely the English-Speaking nations ....led by the USA, UK, Canada and Australia. Mukoko and like thinking silly Zimbabweans should know this. Unfortunately they have chosen to be in Zimbabwe. "Simbi ino rodza imwe simbi" so the badge of Chirodzo school in Mbare says. Why complain kana uchikweshera pano baya? Ndizvozvo mukoma Chakanyuka!!!

I suppose a ZANU like aka thinks that the 2 year old is the ring leader of the terrorists!

Truly you are one sick human being, aka to keep defending the indefensible.

Who can believe that Justine is training terrorists?

The standard ZANU tactic is to accuse victims of committing zanu crimes. Repeat the lie loudly and often and people start to believe it. At least the weak minded ones do.

Aardie,

The issue is not whether Jestina is capable of "training terrorists" or not, but about what role she can play in facilitating the training of terrorists. Clearly, the article shows that Jestina and her organisation - ZPP - have allowed themselves to be used as imperialist conduits in the regime change agenda. Through ZPP and Jestina, the CIA and MI5 were able to get money to those who were training bandits in Botswana.

We all know that the CIA, since 9/11, has gone after those who finance what they term 'terrorists' activities. In this regard they have not only frozen assets belonging to people linked to 'terrorists' but have also arrested and prosecuted the financiers and in some cases the CIA has killed people and bombed facilities linked to Al Qaeda. This only goes to show that where the security of the state is threatened, the authorities should use all means at their disposal to protect the state and its citizens.

Therefore, "the weak minded ones" are people like you who accept that America has a right to protect itself from 'terrorists' by carrying out extraordinary randitions, but do not want to accept that Zimbabwe has the same right when it is threatened and when evidence overwhelmingly links people like Jestina Mukoko to banditry training.

The CIA, trained, armed and financed Unita bandits in Angola. The CIA trained, armed and financed the Renamo bandits in Mozambique. The CIA recruited, trained, armed and financed the Contra bandits in Nicaragua. The CIA recruited, trained, armed and financed Al Qaeda to fight Russian soldiers in Afghanistan. I could go on and on, suffice to say that in all these cases the CIA channeled money to finance these operations through organisations such as the one head by Jestina Mukoko.

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Takunya, no comments about my post about the Maori? I take it you are now educated. Awesome. My work here is done.

Awt_independent,

Firstly, I wish to thank you for confirming what I said, that, short of genocide and ethnic cleansing there is no way an indigenous population could be less than 1% after only less than 200 years of living under colonialism, NEVER. I still maintain that the Maori were ethnically cleansed by the British and those who survived were disorientated to the extent of not knowing who they are. That is why you have the audacity to say that “the last pure blooded Maori person died in 1905”.

Any Maori survivors who identified with their culture or language were systematically slaughtered. By your own admission the evading British force massacred thousands if not millions of Maori people with their superior weapons before “suing for peace”.

On whose terms did the British “sue for peace”? Clearly it is not on the terms of the owners of the land but on their own terms. Because if it was on the terms of the Maori people, as you would like us to believe, then the British would have been driven out as there is no human being who EVER accepts subjugation and domination. Had the “Treaty of Waitangi” been on the terms of the Maori people, then they would not have agreed to the change of name from Aotearoa to New Zealand.

It is also quite clear from what you said that the chiefs who signed the “Treaty of Waitangi” did so to avoid further barbaric massacres of their people that were being carried out by the invading people and this has completely nothing to do with “defeating the British” as you would like us to believe.

You may be interested to know the similarities between us and the Maori. Our peoples were both massacred by the British; they were subjugated, oppressed and enslaved for years. The difference being that Mbuya Nehanda, Lubengula and Sekuru Kaguvi did not surrender to the mighty British army. They were capture in action (fighting) and hanged by the enemy. The enemy was never accepted as part of us and his attempt at changing our country's name was a futile exercise.

We who followed our ancestors’ footsteps took up arms and defeated the enemy on the battle field and the enemy went to the negotiating table on our terms and not on his terms. In 1979, freedom fighters were in control of two thirds of the country and were rapidly advancing to the capital. There was no colonial administration in the liberated zones and no enemy helicopter or truck could venture into those areas. This should tell you that we are proud of what we achieved before we agreed to attend the Lancaster House Talks of 1979.

The fact that there has never been a Maori President or Prime Minister in Aotearoa is proof enough that the indeginous people were made a minority from the time of invasion through genocide, massacre and ethnic cleansing. Thus, the only reasonable conclusion one can make, which made the invading British Army stop massacring the remaining (captured and surrendering) Maori people was that they needed slave labour to work in the stolen gold mines, factories and fields, and as domestic servants.

They envisaged that killing all the Maori people will result in them having to look for slaves from Africa or elsewhere to work for them. The war only stopped when the invaders could see and were sure that they had completely decimated the Maori population.

What you said about the Maori managing “to defeat the might of the British Army” is, therefore, pure hogwash that can only be said by someone whose people were NEVER victims of British massacre, subjugation and slavery. You have therefore proved beyond any reasonable doubt that you are not a Maori but a descended of those who massacred and ethnically cleansed the Maori people to the extent of making them an insignificant minority in their own mother land.

takunya, what a shame it is that after all that fighting you are your own worst enemy. You have created your own mess, destroyed your own country, starved your own people, killed your own people, chased away your own people and can't even work your own land. You complain about others?

Takunya, there was no ethnic cleansing in NZ period. If you have proof to the contrary, please present it, but as it never happened, this proof will not exist.

Indigenous population is not under 1% as you state, but closer to 10%. As I said, mainly due to immigration. When europeans arrived there were close to 100,000 maoris in NZ, 170,000 europeans arrived in the 1850's and 1860's alone.

You can "still maintain that the Maori were ethnically cleansed by the British" as much as like, but bottom line is that you couldnt be further from the truth.

And I have the "audacity to say that “the last pure blooded Maori person died in 1905” because the Maoris and Pakeha got on well, and interbred. All Maoris in New Zealand have European ancestory also. As with the coloureds in South Africa. Not a bad thing at all.

"Any Maori survivors who identified with their culture or language were systematically slaughtered." More nonsense. Why do you make these lies up?

As for "By your own admission the evading British force massacred thousands if not millions of Maori people with their superior weapons before “suing for peace”." This is simply not the case. Firstly there werent millions of Maoris around, and secondly it was the other way around, the Maori's slaughtered the English. As I said, shame your people werent as smart, courageous and brave to do the same. We beat the English. You lost. Badly. It must suck having ancestors who lost.

You really have quite a deluded, clearly made up view of New Zealand history. You didnt even know how to spell Maori when we first started. There are no similarities between you and the Maori. The Maori won. You're ancestors got captured and hung. The Maoris kept ownership of thier land and determined their own future. You did not.

Your logic is so flawed its rediculous. Just because their has never been a Maori PM does not therefore mean that there was a genocide of Maori. You really are clapsing at straws.

Maoris never worked as slaves in gold mines or as domestic servants. Why do you continue to make this rubbish up?

My people are proud people. We were never slaves. We beat the British, and we dont need people like you putting us down like this. We are way better than that.

Why can one not make opposing inputs into any debate/dicussion on Zimbabwe affairs, past and current, without being categorised and put into cells? You become emotional, abusive and unreasonable when one diagrees with you on any points .... is this a taste of idea of Great Zimbabwe? Please come again and discuss the points are raised and allow me to learn from your young mind. I am sure you capable of crossing the line and be constructive. I accept that you do not support RMG. But I do!!! No need for vulgarities.

akapfunde - yes you are correct to say that each country has the right to protect its security but at all times there should be the rule of law. The security laws enacted by the western powers are just that; laws passed by their parliaments or legislative assemblies. The parliament of Zimbabwe (fortunately) has not enacted similar laws and until it does the actions of the ZRP are a gross violation of the constitution of Zimbabwe and represent a judicial coup d'etat. The case for the ICC has become stronger.

Paddington green - hold you indefinitly??? Have you any idea what you are writing? Is this the level of misinformation and lies you dish out in order to justify the unjustifiable?

Amen Judge: Africa needs brave and courageous people like you: Judges who will uphold the constitution and their vows. You've won my respect. Now, I know there are brave souls in Zimbabwe.

May the almighty God guide you, and lead you to stand up to the bullies in Zimbabwe. You've given us hope. God bless you. History will be kind to you. It took a tiny Lady called Rosa Park to set the ball rolling regarding a serious look at institutional racism in United States. I hope your colleges would take a cue from your courageous pronouncement and follow suit.

Mugabe is finised. He's falling apart fast. He'll soon face the people of Zimbabwe to answer charges against him for his cimes against humanity. I hope you'll be the chosen Judge to try this brutal dictator who has taken 12,000 people hostage at gun point with the help of SADC and shameful South Africa. Shame on you South Africa; you've sold your soul to the devil. The whole world came to your aid in a time of need. Mugabe is worse than Ian Smith, but South Africa and SADC have cosen to throw their weight behind Mugabe. You've chosen a brutal dictator over 12,000 million people in need of help.

Only the denizens of Braxton would concoct a ghostly construct called "enforced disappearance."

Of course, we are dealing with human rights lawyers who see flickering rights where there is no candle.

That certain individuals were legitimately arrrested is indubitable; that they "disappeared" in modus "enforced" is necessarily false.

But then again, we are dealing with "law firm history." And, only a neophyte would consult a lawyer's historiography forIRELATIVELY INTERSUBJECTIVELY VALID RES GESTA.

Cheers from the City of LAW and ORDER, HARARE.

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Robert Mugabe and all his state apparatus have no legality to arrest, detain, charge, prosecute or punish anybody! They lost the March elections and were offered to join a unity government and have since been prevaricating about a structure of the unity government in an attempt to steal people’s choice. This has cost them any future possibility of an amnesty for the crimes they have committed since independace in 1980. Some of us have criminal cases dating even to the time before independence which we would like the ZANU-PF to answer for. The people of Zimbabwe must know that even God cannot do the rest of the remaing job to get rid of this perpetual pest. If there are in fact people who are trying to remove Mugabe and his henchmen now, these are the most enlightened freedom fighters at this time and every peace-loving citizen of Zimbabwe should do everything possible to support these people and secure their release before they are killed. If we don’t rise up and fight for those already in detantion and join the struggle we will lose a great opprtunity to gain our own freedom. By detaining even children, it shows that Mugabe and his cronies are desparate and weak. Let us do somnething NOW and get rid of this pest!

Some of our biased and superficial comments are unfortunate indeed. WAR IS WRONG, THERE IS NO WINNER IN ANY WAR. Zimbabweans have proved that they can dialogue right from the grassroots. We are, in general, a peace loving people. What is happening to our MDC brothers and sisters under the ferrous hands of police, CIO and army is very regrettable and our focus MUST be to avoid such animosity.

HOW?

1. The world (specifically the west) must speak peace unto ALL nations. Zimbabwe has been under an economic and financial war against the west for more than ten yrs and now we are deep under military invasion from all Europe and the US. Victims of this stupid interference and war are our people who are enticed to promote this barbaric Anglo-Saxon project, there are innocent victims too that include me and you at home.

2. Our opposition politics we have to depend on should desist from aligning with the war monger devils from the west. Tsvangirai went to Europe without the blessing of the region at this delicate time of our national negotiations and regional invasions in the DRC. Europe responded with waging a war they want to legitimize through the UN. It is naïve and dim-witted to exonerate our opposition leader from influencing such powerful western evil armies from attacking our region for their ulterior motives. We don’t feed on politicking lip service but the reality on the ground show MDC waging civil despondencies with the malice intention to cripple national infrastructure with a hope of having political mileage.

3. The ugly, illegal, anti-african Botswana strategy is being exposed with a vengeance and the western funded civil body is up in hue and cry for the rule of law. What hogwash? It is overt knowledge that after the declaration of war by Europe and America foolishly disguised in cholera outbreaks, the Project to eliminate strategic elements within the rank and files of the national Army and other infrastructural and financial edifices are now under attack, this includes high ranking assassinations. We are aware of the similarly PHEONIX PROJECT that preceded the Vietnam War and the WAR OF DECEPTION that preceded the Iraq war. The Zimbabwean security apparatus is then supposed to fold hands and pat on the back of perpetrators. PLAIN trash!

4. We are the victims so we must not promote stubbornness among ourselves, the MoU should have shown results on what was then agreed but up till this day some negotiators are saying the suffering of the people is at their advantage before they come to gvt. It is this educated nation that understands that Mugabe is problem to a new dispensation but not supporting the rejuvenation of revolutionary parties and again it is this witted nation that understands that Tsvangirai is the stumbling bloc to a new dispensation by agreeing to western illegal machinations with erstwhile motives to annihilate the region as they did for 500 yrs now. We are experienced in humanity that inversion of nations, communities, settlements are met by a blood socked spear of liberation – whatever this might mean. It is thus we must desist from promoting the drawing of such swords of misery.

5. My heart goes for the immediate victims of militarism from both ZANU and western buttressed MDC, but for those who promote misery of our people through such machinations, shame on you and let the devil have you suffer a thousand times on earth before you eternally dwell in hell.

PEACE, ONE SOUL

And SADC still thinks it can negotiate with mugabe! How many Zimbabweans will have to die before SADC loses its fear of mugabe? I would suggest most of the population. As I have said before, "SADC, no guts , no glory". I see no courage in most African politicians, including the current SA President or Zuma. Did anyone note that mugabe backwards spells a typical British exclamation of surprise? Ebagum!!! Why does Africa put up with a murdering tyrant?

Have your say about Cdr. Mugabe, Zuma and others, but please spare us any and all references to the linguistic cultural heritage of British Imperialism and its CURRENT heirs.

Cheers from the Circle of African Intellectual Independence in the City of Erudition and Know Your Literary Sources, HARARE.

kbagyenim, Dec 27 00:54:33 2008 " .. brave and courageous people like you: Judges who will uphold the constitution .."

According to that constitution, Cde Mugabe scored an overwhelming majority of the votes in the run-off election on June 27, 2008 and was sworn in as President of Zimbabwe. It seems as if these lawyer clowns disagree - perhaps because their foreign masters and financiers told them to. Have they ever read the constitution of Zimbabwe? What constitution are they upholding?

They ARE clowns - parading around with white wigs (probably made form hairs of long-dead beggars in the sewers of Newcastle) on their native heads while trying hard to look clever with their hilarious English as a second language - even as treacherous jokers like Annan lobotomize the precious document of the people of Zimbabwe!

An imposition of economic sanctions on a country is often viewed as a hostile act that is tantamount to a declaration of war. By imposing economic sanctions on Zimbabwe, USA and the EU countries essentially declared war on Zimbabwe. The country has been devastated as a result of that act - and many Zimbabweans have died.

Hence, do these lawyers consider the imposition of the economic sanctions on Zimbabwe - an act that has unleashed suffering and death on multitudes of people - as a human rights issues? Have they called for an immediate lifting of cursed sanctions imposed on the people by their white masters?

If Cde Mugabe is the evil agent that would lead Zimbabwe unto distruction like the British did, then Zimbabwe would go to the dogs without the sanctions, right?

Are the economic sanctions on the people of Zimbabwe meant to be good for the people and lead them to prosperity? If so, then the sanctions have completely failed and as a matter of extreme humanitarian urgency, they MUST be withdraw immediately, right?

NO, Of course, the welfare of the natives of Zimbabwe (and elsewhere) in not of primary concern and it has never been to the foreign imperialist plunderers who enlist the Annans, Tutus and Odingas for their purposes.

Tsvangrai and his band of local and foreign clowns are not afraid of Zimbabwe waxing prosperous under Cde Mugabe, are they? If at all the Almighty Mwari smiles upon Tsvangrai at a later time, wouldn't he prefer to assume leadership of a prosperous Zimbabwe? [Maybe not - his interest may be simple and primarily personal - to stroke an overgrown ego and the joy of being called "el presidente" - and the country may as well revert to the British slave traders.]

Should someone remind these barely-learned lawyers of Zimbabwe that first and foremost, they are (presumably) citizens of Zimbabwe, and that in times, for the duration, of hostilities with its enemies, they are to suspend their shrill criticisms of their government which may be seen to give succor and comfort to the enemy?

Unless, of course, the purposeful lawyers wish - for reasons best known to their foreign financiers and enemies of sovereign Zimbabwe - to be charged with crimes of sedition or treason.

The people may as well want to know to what extent these lawyers who seem to hate Zimbabwe so much, have been palling around with enemies of the people and to what extent the national security of Zimbabwe has been compromised through their associations ...

. There are new charges of human rights violations in USA each year as detailed in online reports from the various human rights groups. Moreover, he current hostilities in Iraq and Afghanistan have exposed a whole slew of heinous crimes against humanity committed by USA and UK which - as noted in Europe - could be brought up in a Nuremberg-type trial. Do these naive "lawyers" in Zimbabwe ever wonder why the lawyers in USA and UK are not camped out and up in arms, harassing their governments and security forces with cries of "human rights" violations - and prodding hostile foreigners to invade their dear home countries?

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And by the way, those accused of heinous crimes of sedition or treason in times of declared hostilities belong to the military system - not in the civilian justice system which these cursed "lawyers" infest. So, hopefully these traitors, agitators and suspected terrorists now in custody will be transferred immediately to military detention centers for interrogation/torture/rehabilitation/deprogramming.

That (and perhaps more) is what would happen in times or war to such ingratiates in a good democracy like the USA ..

And Zimbabwe is a good democracy.

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[A familiarity with the feral wiles, vicious schemes and blood lust of the historical foreign detractors and eternal victimizers the people of Zimbabwe leads us to be cautious: Who really are these native-hating "Zimbabwe Lawyers for Human Rights (Harare)"? ]

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kbagyenim, " ..May the almighty God guide you, ..."

'God'? What does the foreign deity have to do with it? Why don't you beseech the Almighty Mwari? Or Unkulunkulu, the Creator? Or Obatala, the Supreme? Or Unumbotte, the Omniscient? Should you be talking of some foreign "gods" on this site? On the other hand, Tsvangrai, his followers and these lawyers are probably followers of Nyaminyami ..

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Arrest, it is arrest not abducting, not kidnapping. The police arrested Mukoko and, sometimes, for in the interests of State security, the police and state security agents , do not have to divulge why, where what, and how. Thats the way its done even in the USA and UK. You make a lot of noise for the sake of noise.

Arrest is like arresting Cholera. I see.

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just wondering if you understood the meaning of the word. Unlike Mugabe.

"According to that constitution, Cde Mugabe scored an overwhelming majority of the votes in the run-off election on June 27, 2008 and was sworn in as President of Zimbabwe."

I have lost track of all the ways in which the constitution fo Zimbabwe was violated during the elections.

First of all, the results of the March election were withheld far beyond the constitutional reporting period. Second of all, the results were never reported. You cannot just give a final number. You to properly report the results from every polling station. This obligation to report was ignored because the final number would not correspond to the photos of all the polling results posted. How about the illegal irregularities regarding security of the ballot boxes after the voting. No recount can be considered valid after apparent evidence of tampering on the boxes during the recount. Evident tampering plus boxes stolen from their proper custodians equals electoral fraud. Unsurprisingly, no charges have been laid.

How about all of the unwarranted attacks and arrests without evidence of election monitors before the June runoff? How about all of the mass kidnappings, false arrests, torture, rape and murder of innocent civilians suspected of not voting for ZANU-PF?

How about the banning of food aid in a starving country on the unsubstantiated charges of political interference by NGO's. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. ZANU-PF has put lot of effort into making sure only their supporters get any food.

It seems that the current ZANU-PF strategy is to kill off enough surplus (non-ZANU)population that the next vote will swing their way.

Patriotism is about supporting your country and not a particular political party. Political parties that paint non-supporters as traitors are themselves traitors to their country. Sovereignty is about the will of ALL the people.

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The West, I think you are critisizing Aardie unfairly. He was firstly praising the judges for making the right decision and upholding the constitution to release these illegally detained people. Then some idiot posted that the results of the run off election were constitutional, and he pointed out the constitutional flaws with that election. So all relevant to the thread.

Junior:

Maybe you did not monitor the elections in USA in 2000, 2004 or 2008. There are lots of accusations and charges, challenges and lawsuits etc before, during and even after the elections. There are also reports of abuse, threats and even assaults resulting in grave bodily harm.

And some election results are not out yet - since Nov 4! [The most curious contest being that for the senate seat in the state of Minnesota .. The count and challenges and 'recount with hitherto missing ballots' and more challenges and 'recount with incorrectly rejected ballots' and .. HA! You didn't know that such happens in perfect USA, did you?]

Do Americans wish that they had a band of senile "elders" and unpatriotic, acquisitive immigrants from Africa pompously parading around - and warning them, with threats, that the USA elections are bogus if favorite foreign-sponsored lackeys lose ? HELL NO!

And we do not have 80% of our most productive lands owned by a few foreigners(British) who plant bamboo(tobacco) for their foreign lands while we starve.

. [And by the way Zimbabwe, those British and their treacherous settlers were in USA about 2 centuries ago doing the same evil. They were kicked out for good. You must be firm and resolute. And vigilant too - 'cause the land-challenged hordes of nasty Brit will try again and again. Godspeed, ZIM.]

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and heres the link... http://allafrica.com/comments/list/aans/post/post/id/200812300845.html

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Those people who blame the west for sanctions against Zimbabwe fail to appreciate that only a fool would want to invest in a country that has no respect for property rights, the rule of law or human rights. Why would anyone want to invest in a country whose stated policy is to nationalize foreign owned companies ? It is not the sanctions aimed at Mugabe and his cronies that prevent investment. It is the actions of the regime itself. Would you want to invest your own money in a country like Zimbabwe ?

Once upon a time, mercenary armies had to at least risk their own lives invading other countries to loot and pillage them. Now all they have to do is pick one of their own 2-year-old children and beat them until the west gives them all the danegeld they want.

Is it more civilized this way? Or just more lazy and cowardly, on everyone's part?

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Could we stop resonding to or about jallolaw and cocentrate on exchanging meaningful intelligent posts. Empty vessels make the most noise and arguing with them has no help.I presume that like me a large number of posters are Zimbabwean and we know the reality of the nation's state. Why waste time arguing if the colour of the wall is black or white with a blind man. Still I look forward to reading his rants as they at least provide me with laugh in these grim times. ........................................ Tears will not wash away our problems Nor will prayers deliver us As the battle gets hotter Know that the victory will be sweeter Yes some will have to fall As some have fallen before But they are many more Ready to sacrifice for freedom. .......................................... There are millions of Jestina's out there. They cant kill all of us. Freedom is must. Death to all Black and White oppressors

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Rhodie trying to be hip. HAS IT SNOWED IN HELL YET?

First, learn how to dance; I hear rhodies can't dance. Very well, put a dip in your hip, and shake it like Yondo Sista.

Nevertheless, more rubbish from a tail of Osama BINT MT---RHODIES' MAN IN 'HARARE.'

KWASKWASA DANCE TROUPE FOR RHODIE WALZ INSTRUCTIONS in the City of Musical Tolerance, HARARE.

All you do is critisise what people write and never provide any input. Once again you've done the same and proven me right. All very sad. And lets see you do it again...