Author: prem
Sat Feb 28 18:00:33 2009

Mugabe, the devil!

Who said Zimbabwe was at its lowest ebb and that it could only move up with the GNU!

The cat and mouse game is nothing compared to the systematic sabotage of the GNU by Mugabe and thugs.

The bannana republic under lunatic Mugabe is dragging the whole country underneath what was already breaking Zimbos' backs. Now, watch out!

Mugabe will bite and then lie low for a while before restarting! He is bent on making MDCs life a hell without rocking completely the GNU.

Because without a GNU, Mugabe knows that Obama will get the international community to support a move to drag criminal Mugabe before the ICC.

Mugabe is bent on paralizing the MDCs in the GNU believing that that would enhance the ZANU-PF chance to form a government on its own after fresh elections.

Who said Mugabe is a patriot? He is vile and can only seek to promote what could secure him and his cronies power, wealth and a firm grip over a destitute population!

Rise up Zimbos before it becomes too late!

Author: akapfunde1
Sun Mar 1 16:33:27 2009

Shut up and go away, you white man!!

Author: prem
Sun Mar 1 19:00:42 2009

Confused AK47 cannot stand truth; hatemonger he can be, a bootlicker surely he must be. He can only praise dictators who have shed blood of his innocent citizens.

When he is short of arguments, he treats me as the "whiteman".

It's idiots like confused teacher AK47 that have brought about the "failed" state in Zimbabwe. Phiri was right to say that it was because of the cowardness or greed of such people that criminal Mugabe is still holding to his illegitimate position.

Anyway, the worls has already thrown criminal Mugabe into the dusbin of history. A hero, my foot!!

Author: akapfunde1
Mon Mar 2 17:21:30 2009

Sir Prem, it is not whether President Mugabe or our Prime minster Tsvangirai is right or not ... l have a problem with you joining in the arguement. You are an outsider with outside and ulterior motives. Keep out. dont trust you.

Author: prem
Tue Mar 3 06:47:18 2009

Hi AK47! I just remind you that if Mugabe can accept SADC funds, I have the right to poke my nose to ensure that this money goes to people deserving it. Because that financial assistance is part of my own tax paid to my government.

Other than this judicious use of my tax money for relief in Zimbabwe, you, the confused teacher, ought to know that the defence of basic human rights knows no national frontiers. It is universal. I have the right to come to the defence of defenceless Zimbos being ostracised by the police state of Mugabe.

Stop telling people, who through international solidarity, are lending their voice to put an end to the agony of a nation under dictatorship. I wonder, Where did AK47 qualify to become a teacher.

AK47 must be a rogue teacher, otherwise why should he blindly defend an assassin, an illegitimate leader who has brought about a "failed" state?

Author: kjrs120
Wed Mar 4 04:15:17 2009

Akapfunde, why do you have a problem with Prem joining in the argument? Is an argument not supposed to be conducted by two more persons? You see, your reason is because you know you cannot bullshit him in believing your crap as he is not one of you racist Zanu- pf Mugabe-boot-licking dim wits.

Author: kubatana6
Mon Mar 2 06:41:50 2009

Hey prem ain't nothing stopping YOU from' raizing up'. I'm sure you will have willing generals like independent, kjrs, zola and a few others.

Author: kjrs120
Mon Mar 2 10:51:39 2009

Kubatana, me one of the "willing generals" for Prem? But of course and with the greatest pleasure. If Prem is Zimbabwean, you need more like him to put Zimbabwe straight and the likes of you, flushed down the toilet together with your useless leader Mugabe.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Mon Mar 2 15:28:40 2009

Kubatana, I'm already a general in the army of God. let me tell you something here, You and the army of satan has already lost, it was lost approximately 2000 years ago. Jesus defeated the devil of who represent at the cross of calvery. Jesus said it was finished when he took everyones sin including yours to lock in hell. The thing with you is that you are scavaging in the depths of hell to get it back. you are so blinded by the darkness of satan in your soul that you can't find your way out. Time for damascus road experiance and come into the light of Christ. Your choice of course. Don't say i didn't warn you.

Author: kubatana6
Mon Mar 2 22:40:55 2009

zola, you sound like one that still believes that God, Jesus, Disciples and all Angles are WHITE ! You see them all with blond hair and blue eyes don't you?

Author: kjrs120
Tue Mar 3 10:26:18 2009

Kubatana, so what? No one is stopping YOU from thinking whatever colour you make of God. You make black statues of Jesus etc and there is nothing wrong with that. You are just being stupid.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Tue Mar 3 17:13:24 2009

Thanks for that KJRS.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Tue Mar 3 17:12:18 2009

Since when was Jesus a white man, He was born in the middle east and born a Jew. God does not see colour of skin only their hearts, Black for evil because there is no light in darkness , or a brilliant golden glow, the righteousness of Christ. A Christians spiritual garments are brilliantly white as snow to be shown that their garments have been washed in the blood of the lamb who was slain to set peoples hearts/ lives free. Quick answer to your question . NO.

Author: TexasBob
Sat Feb 28 23:44:33 2009

This would be comical if so many people weren't dying and Comrade Bob has a lavish party for his birthday. Should have served sewer water to the whole lot at the party.

Methinks the situation calls for dueling pistols at 20 paces...the old fool probably can't see 20 yards.

And the beat goes on, and people keep dying. Last item I read, WHO sez the Cholera count will top 100,000. And that's a disease that rational people can control.....Thanks Comrade Bob for completely trashing a whole nation. You are to be celebrated....in Hell.

Author: N/a
Sun Mar 1 16:00:51 2009

saw a picture of him scoffing a LARGE PIECE OF CAKE!! ITS A WONDER HE NEVER CHOKED ON IT!!!!

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Sun Mar 1 16:12:39 2009

All this shows that Bob does not believe in the power sharing agreement which he signed infront of Sadcc and others. This proves that bob is a law unto himself and is truly one of the worst dictators in recent history. Zimbabwe is the people and not bob and mob. Dictor Bob has to go. And agian Bob , god says to you, LET MY PEOPLE GO.

Author: N/a
Sun Mar 1 16:11:34 2009

P.s. What is the significance of WEARING the RED SCARF HS IT GOT TO DO WITH COMMUNISM??!!!

Author: Elder
Sun Mar 1 17:49:59 2009

These issues: continued violation of property rights and brutalization of people, is why MDC insisted on equal sharing of power, particularly security organs like police, army and justice departments. Yet SADC in their wisdom chose to ignore that call. Now everyone in the region is going down with this madness. And SADC as usual watches as if all is well and hopes for a miracle while Zanu's destructive machinery rumbles on. Who is now asking to be paid in United States Dollar? Is it the same fighters against freedom who invaded farms and brought all this misery upon ZImbabweans and the region? Where is Chinotimba? Perhaps he can lead an invasion team direct to Washington and raid the Central bank there and bring home some US Dollars.

Author: ragtimer
Mon Mar 2 15:33:58 2009

"Perhaps he can lead an invasion team direct to Washington and raid the Central bank there and bring home some US Dollars."

If any African did, then US dollars would become as worthless as Zimbabwe dollars. Even gold loses its value when it is gained by extortion rather than production.

Author: TexasBob
Tue Mar 3 00:42:31 2009

Today I received a brand new, unissued 100 Trillion Zimbabwe Dollar Note, which is worth less than 15 cents USD. I going to have it laminated under a brand new One Dollar USD bill. I am using them to teach my grandkids and his school mates what happens when folks, or countries, are not educated enough to do banking or finance.

Author: kubatana6
Mon Mar 2 06:46:49 2009

N/a, come on don't you know thats the club colours of Chinoyi Soccer club. Get with the program or get lost.

Author: N/a
Mon Mar 2 11:45:29 2009

I have seen pictures of chinese leaders wearing a red scarf that is why it has aroused my curiosity - -t difinetly has got a chinky link

Author: N/a
Mon Mar 2 11:55:47 2009

re: this red scarf- i will quote from this picture." Premier Wenjiabo, wearing a red scarf - symbol of the offical childrens organisation the young pioneers in may 2006" !?

Author: rmkooistra
Mon Mar 2 13:34:53 2009

So if there are any homeless people in Hongkong. I know a place overthere ready for invasion cause the "owner" loves to steal other peoples property....

Author: ragtimer
Mon Mar 2 16:29:43 2009

As I pass through my incarnations, in every age and race,

I make my proper prostrations to the gods of the marketplace.

Peering through reverent fingers, I watch them flourish and fall,

And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I've noted, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us, they taught us each in turn

That Water would certainly wet us, just as Fire would certainly burn.

But we found them lacking in Uplift, in Vision and Breadth of Mind,

So we left them to teach the gorillas, while we followed the march of Mankind.

With the hopes that the world is built on they were utterly out of touch,

They denied that the moon was Stilton, they denied she was even Dutch!

They denied that wishes were horses, they denied that a pig could have wings,

So we followed the gods of the marketplace, who promised these wonderful things.

When the Cambrian Measures were forming, we were promised perpetual peace.

We were told, if we gave up our weapons, then the wars of the tribes would cease.

But when we disarmed they sold us, and delivered us chained to our foe,

And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said, "Stick with the devil you know."

On the first Feminian sandstones we were promised the fuller life,

Which started by loving our neighbor, and ended by loving his wife,

Till the women bore no more children, and the men lost Reason anf Faith,

And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said, "The wages of sin is death."

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,

By robbing selected Peter to pay the collective Paul.

But though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money would buy.

And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said, "If you don't work, you die."

Then the gods of the marketplace tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew,

And the hearts of the meanest were humbled, and began to believe it was true,

That all that is Gold does not glitter, and that Two and Two make Four

And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it to us once more.

-- Rudyard Kipling, The Gods of the Copybook Headings, 1919

Author: chokora
Mon Mar 2 18:29:47 2009

" .. United Nations secretary-general Ban Ki Moon this week in South Africa urged Mugabe to release detained activists .. "

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Behold the duplicity of this UN of the USA/EU.!

When did UN urge the USA/EU to release the innocent "political" detainees they rape, torture and murder? [The UN has in fact legitimized the white man's aggression in Iraq that has killed and dislocated over a million innocent people. So how come this UN person remember his bleeding heart only when he sees an African who wants to reclaim his ancestral lands? Duplicity. :Lack of moral/ethical legitinacy. Malice. The call of blood lust.]

[No. The UN would rather campaign for the treasonous rats held in Africa without being raped, tortured, murdered ..

Of course Africans are being fooled - just as their were fooled into christianity of the very people who murdered their ancestors and commandererd their ancestral lands....

Now, if Africans had been violently ousted from UK/EU after decades/centuries of victimizing and killing the UK/EU people, would Africans and their AU continue to hold sway and swagger around in UK years afterward? Maybe NOT. (And the murderous racism of those british vermin against Africans is legendary.) If you don't appreciate the feral savagery and unrelenting vindictiveness of the UK people, you probably don't know their history. So, why are the natives in Zimbabwe being so nice. Do they have a death wish? Do they know that throughout history, recent and past, these rhodies exterminate whole societies? ]

" .. United Nations secretary-general Ban Ki Moon this week in South Africa urged Mugabe to release detained activists .. "

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Behold the duplicity of this UN of the USA/EU.!

When did UN urge the USA/EU to release the innocent "political" detainees they rape, torture and murder? [The UN has in fact legitimized the white man's aggression in Iraq that has killed and dislocated over a million innocent people. So how come this UN person remember his bleeding heart only when he sees an African who wants to reclaim his ancestral lands? Duplicity. :Lack of moral/ethical legitimacy. Malice. The call of blood lust.]

[No. The UN would rather campaign for the treasonous rats held in Africa without being raped, tortured, murdered ..

Of course Africans are being fooled - just as their were fooled into christianity ("be meek and turn the other cheek and look for wealth and ancestral lands in heaven") of the very people who murdered their ancestors ("vengeance is mine") and commandeered their ancestral lands ....

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1) How well do you know the europeans and the rhodies, Tsvangirai? Suppose Africans had been violently ousted from UK/EU after decades/centuries of victimizing and killing the UK/EU people, would Africans and their AU continue to hold sway and swagger around in UK years afterward? Maybe NOT. (And the murderous racism of those british vermin against Africans is legendary.) If you don't appreciate the feral savagery and unrelenting vindictiveness of the UK people, you probably don't know their history. So, why are the natives in Zimbabwe being so nice. Do they have a death wish? Do they know that throughout history, recent and past, these rhodies exterminate whole societies? ]

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2) Our ancestors talk to us from beyond about the perfidy and the bestial nature of the foreign invaders. During the WW2, the whites in Southern Africa conscripted multitudes of Africans to "fight" the Germans in North Africa. They were unwilling combatants fighting for the white man against the white man - yet they were without human rights and they were victimized by the white man in their own country. [Does that remind you of the African in USA?]

Did I write "to fight"? Read "to be slaughtered".

Well. They were given no guns. Waves upon waves of the natives wielding arrows and spears were sent across an open space toward the german guns. Long before the multitude of native braves got within range of their spears, the few German gunners would mow them down - as the amused white South Africans watched.

Send in the next wave of native fodder!

Shaka!

So the war ended and there was celebrations in South Africa. The blacks - and the relatives of those who contributed the war fodder - were not allowed by whites into the halls to eat and drink in celebration.

Has the white man changed his nature? Think of Iraq, Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo today. Think of Afghanistan. Think: native Indians in the Americas. Think: Australian Aborigines. Think: Ancestral lands of the maZimbabwe. Think: the destitute natives of fabulously wealthy South Africa and Nigeria.

And that Mr. Tsvangirayi, is your legacy - the story of your ancestors and the rhodie - as told by an ancestor, a grandmother, to Madikizela Mandela by the evening fireside.

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Tsvangirayi, you may despise our Mbuya Nehanda.

You may despise Chief Lobengula and his struggle against the invaders, You may even be amused by the spectre of his braves succumbing to pestilence unleashed by your hero and terrorist cecil rhodes. You may feel gratified by the spectre of rhodes matching into the land of Matabele devoid of resisting braves. But our valiant ancestors did their best against the world's supreme predator of men and societies. They did not stand by - and flash nice smiles as the invaders, rapists, torturers, murderers swept into the lands.

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Would you have done otherwise, Tsvangirayi?

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The rhodies of Africa have their ancestral lands - which vigorously protect their well-being; and into which they enter expeditiously and leave as they please; and into which they can emigrate or seek refuge should they need to. Have you considered that?

How about the native of Africa?

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Are you doing your best to save the glorious people of Zimbabwe from extermination, Tsvangirayi? Are you doing your best to ensure that you do not contribute to the end of the long history of the natives' civilizations of maZimbabwe?

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Are you true to the hallowed memory of our ancestors, Tsvangirayi?

And if you think that our ancestors were not worthy, then what bestows upon you, their offspring, any worthiness?

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Religion in Africa? The opium of the masses?

Christianity in Africa is what keeps the poor from killing the rich - and the rhodie.

http://truthfeeds.com/Daily-News/231438/Religion-is-what-keeps-the-poor-fro m-killing-the-rich

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Author: awt_independent
Mon Mar 2 18:38:25 2009

blah blah blah. What a waste of time.

Author: chokora
Mon Mar 2 19:09:23 2009

Sadc communiqué issued in Pretoria on January 27 which stated that: "the appointments of the Reserve Bank governor and attorney-general will be dealt with by the inclusive government after its formation".

Why only those two? Don't other appointments have significance?

Maybe we should ask this: What did those foreign masters - through their SADC lackeys like Sir Mbeki and Sir Khama - have in mind when they insisted on this?

[Hint: Repatriation of funds and the wealth of Zimbabwe to UK. The "legal" commandeering of the ancestral lands and the "legal" victimization of native who would resist the foreign victimization in neo-colonialism ... as seen in Kenya.]

OK, Tsvangirayi. All major economies of the world are undergoing a recession - the worst that has occurred for decades. There is a financial meltdown in the west and the financial system which dwarfs whatever is happening in the financial sector of Zimbabwe. You seem to know something about the financial world that the governor and the banking sector in Zimbabwe doesn't know. And even perhaps you can provide critical insight into the financial system which those executives in the banks all over the world don't know. Save the banking system! Save humanity, Tsvangirayi. We beg you. Urgently. Tell us your wisdom regarding banking and what the world's banks and economies should do! [ And if you don't then the world may take you to the ICC and accuse you of crimes against humanity.]

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" ... all political detainees who have been formally charged with a crime should be released on bail .."

Should that read " .. detainees who have been formally charged with a crime should be released on bail .."

"political"? Convenient, isn't it? Of course we may DECIDE that every crime in UK will be termed "political".

Note that the charges of terrorism and treason are a serious matter of national security concern in all civilized nations. Anyone, may it be a Zimbabwean or South African, accused of sabotage, terrorism in USA faces a bleak future that may include rape, torture and death at any of the various rendition destinations.

Any foreign country campaigning for the release of saboteurs in Zimbabwe must state categorically that the crimes those they call "political" detainees are charged with in Zimbabwe - are allowed in their countries - or that the crimes are considered 'common' crimes subject to bail.[And of course we have their records to refer to.]

In any case, any discussion of bail must be on an individual basis and must take into account whether the person is a flight risk. And the laws of the land are cheapened if politicians sabotage the course of justice. [Not an entirely unexpected bad start for Tsvangirayi - who wants judges and armed forces controlled by, and owing their allegiance to, political parties.]

If the detainees committed crimes, they must pay for it. And if Tsvangirayi put them up to it, he is NOT above the law.

Author: kjrs120
Mon Mar 2 20:53:00 2009

Chokora, do YOU even, comprehend your own posts? Just one "Hint." You do not "repatriate funds and wealth." You repatriate people. So now you are saying the SADC members including Mbeki and Khama have "foreign masters?" Really?

Author: kjrs120
Mon Mar 2 20:53:07 2009

Chokora, do YOU even, comprehend your own posts? Just one "Hint." You do not "repatriate funds and wealth." You repatriate people. So now you are saying the SADC members including Mbeki and Khama have "foreign masters?" Really?

Author: TexasBob
Sat Mar 7 06:18:18 2009

Chokora: Your post is a waste if space and time. Get your thoughts together and be brief.

Author: chokora
Mon Mar 9 14:30:39 2009

We sympathize with your curse of short attention span. Maybe you are one of the over half of the American population - many of them in Texas - who are FUNCTIONALLY illiterate.

Of course even the articles in the Africa's newspapers are too long for you. We admire your effort. Bear with us and take your time, poor yahoo.

Author: TexasBob
Sat Mar 7 06:12:59 2009

Things got even hotter....Mugabe tried to kill Morgan, but killed his wife...Why to go Comrade Bob.

Author: Oldgoat
Sun Mar 1 11:36:44 2009

Note: it has come to this because we lost the March elections," he said.

Author: kubatana6
Sun Mar 1 12:33:06 2009

One has to admire the LOYALTY shown to Mugabe. The man is an icon ! Yes, and we need to take ALL the land back.

Author: leviboone
Sun Mar 1 14:02:07 2009

We really need to take back (our land),any part we choose. (Period).Happy birthday Pres.,and PM. I love you Both.God bless Africa and America. Oweij Liebo,U.S.A.

Author: kjrs120
Wed Mar 4 04:00:39 2009

leviboone, " We really need to take back ( our) land, any part of it ", you say with uncertainty peeking behind a white man's curtain. Why are you not in your own African land? Because your own black leaders treat you like crap with no rights and that is why you scurry like cockroaches to the West instead of improving your Africa. How nice would it be to return to Africa and find all the rights you enjoyed in the west also there.

Author: prem
Sun Mar 1 19:15:54 2009

Even if you take all the land back, it is not sure you will be able to make good use of it for the benefits of the majority of Zimbos! Mugabe's thugs will fight one another to ensure that they get the largest slice. But then, without agricultural workers, who are now exiled in large numbers to SA, Mugabe's thugs would only sit on the land and speculate.

Confused people like AK47, Hollowjaw, Kubatana6 and group are so vile and filled up with hatred that they let emotions carry their mind. Mugabe plays with their emotions like that of kids.

Zimbos who are dying of cholera need medicines, not land to revert to good health. Destitue Zimbos need two meals a day to ward off famine, not land!

Only fools and idiots can be led by their nose by Mugabe on the land question. It's a sad day for Zimbos since most of the land in question has already been confiscated and distributed to Mugabe's cronies.

Mugabe is very cunning not to spell out a land policy and steps required to fructify it. He can press the button each time he wants idiots to rallye behind him against any genuine move by MDCs to democratise further the institutions of the country.

Author: ftwilliam
Mon Mar 2 03:38:11 2009

So I guess, you will feel better if we accept as Africans that we are incapable and just give all our lands to Europeans. Maybe we should just also vacate our country and let the Europeans take over while we are at it.

Author: TexasBob
Mon Mar 2 04:49:50 2009

Couldn't be any worse than it is now. Used to be a lot better.....before Mugabe.

Author: kubatana6
Mon Mar 2 06:32:27 2009

Hey bobo, it was a lot better before Mugabe because rhodies like yourself used Blacks as cheap slave labour. One can do ANYTHING with cheap labour - that is how you rhodies got your wealth. You ,yourself did not lift a finger because you are extremely lazy by nature.

Author: awt_independent
Mon Mar 2 11:19:56 2009

well if you hadnt been so cowardly, stupid, unorganised, bad fighters, etc etc, you wouldnt have been slaves in the first place. Maybe you should blame your ancestors for losing the battle against the english that made them slaves.

Author: mindpower
Tue Mar 10 22:26:43 2009

Blacks sold their own people as slaves to Arabs way before the white man even visited Africa.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Wed Mar 11 20:19:28 2009

Mindpower, You are evry right, wonder if these bozo's are going to ask the arabs to vacate africa as well and claim everything for themselves. Mugabe doesn't like the fact that the pharoahs built the pyramids, he would of prefered it if the dark 'o's had of done it.

Author: jeffjedi06
Thu Mar 5 03:31:54 2009

Mugabe isnt capable of building anything neither has any respect outside of Zim. The whole of zim is a graniose stuff up, how can a nation call itself that if they rely on western money which they love but depise so much the governments who print it. As Isn Smith the mosted hated white racist supremist said" blacks dont know how to govern themselves:". We have that proof in the whole of Africa and in particular Mugabe. How pathetic.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Thu Mar 5 15:58:04 2009

JeffJedi, I can see where you are coming from, but, there are a lot of decent africans who do know how to rule in a just way for the better of the people, it's just that africans are kept at bay by the ruling elite. Mugabe made sure that the people were educated, but to his detriment, they ( the people) now know who has been messing them up. Just like any other part of society which Bob has seen to be against him, his has systimatically gone about destroying it. We know what bob has done to farming, mining, manufacturing and bussiness' in general, Time to look forward to a new Zimbabwe under a decent democracy. But has achieved one thing that no other leader has every achieved. He has united the country into a common cause, AGAINST HIM.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Wed Mar 11 20:14:10 2009

Before mugabe lets see does Bob really have an existance, Pm = pre-mugabe or Am = After -mugabe.

Author: kubatana6
Mon Mar 2 06:27:19 2009

No sweat prem, Africans were farming long before the whites stole the land so it wont take long to make the land productive again. Personally i don't mind who gets the land as long as it's a non white Zimbabwean!

Author: awt_independent
Mon Mar 2 08:49:54 2009

Racist.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Tue Mar 3 18:22:51 2009

Kubatana, you have had 29 years to make the land productive again, Seeing that the whites had a third of the arable land up intil the late 90's , what were you doing with the other two thirds. Don't get me wrong there are some very good black farmers, yes , but they are few and far inbetween. Since when does army generals know about farming or even the presidents wife, I don't see her on a massey ferguson in the fields at 6 or 7 in the morning preparing the land of her great estates.

Author: afric35
Mon Mar 2 07:11:08 2009

Mugabe is an Icon for how to be a careless, selfish Dictator but other than that well not much else too say... Mugabe and you Zanu-pf thugs take the land back by unjust means and just know That God will pay you back and it will not be a payback to look forward too. Traet others as you would like to be treated so one day someone else will come back and take all the land away from you Zanu-pf follower's and Mugabe...

Author: kjrs120
Mon Mar 2 21:28:40 2009

In my opinion, it is a great shame that the White farmers have wasted their lives in thinking Zimbabwe was their home. The very first time that brutality against them by Mugabe and his dogs started, they should have read between the lines and realized that if other farmers could be so brutalized, it would just be a matter of time before they too would have to leave everything behind. If they had heeded the call, they would now be farming in those countries who would appreciate them as good farming and animal husbandry are a great knowledge and no easy task. After this, I hope I never hear any Zimbabwean complaining about racism that was practiced against them because they learned nothing from it. What is being done to these Zimbabwean farmers is also blatant racism.

Author: N/a
Sun Mar 1 15:59:30 2009

Uncle Bob should take the lie detector test - bet u he will fail it!!!!

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Sun Mar 1 16:21:15 2009

Anyone who thinks bob is great then think again, they are the greatest dillusionists on the planet, Anyone who agrees that Bob is right to take all the land back for those who stole it orriganlly is a true satanist . Those who seek to destroy the country is destined for hell. What did the bozo's think when they said that they fought the liberation war for ALL to be freed from oppression? Bob and all of ZanuPF are all on a one way trip to Hell, only one way out, turn from your evil , wicked, unjustified ways and look to Christ for redemtion.To see vultures scrambling for the spoils at Bob's Birthday bash is truly sickening, If these people were true patriotic Zimbabweans , then they would of taken the food to the people.

Author: kubatana6
Mon Mar 2 06:34:53 2009

zola, who do you think was there ? The PEOPLE you fool !

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Tue Mar 3 18:26:12 2009

Kub , did they think of helping the elderly and the children who were not there and lying in diseased filthy hospitals starving to death. It would of been better for bob to donate all the money for his birthday bash to help all those who have been infected by cholera. That way the people might of started tp think the president was doing something for them for the first time.More fool you.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Sun Mar 1 16:28:04 2009

n/a, I would say to link the lie detector test machine into the electric chair where Bob sits. Everytime he lies, blast him with 2000 volts, many people will gladly donate a genorator big enough fit for the purpose.time to make this evil dictator beg for mercy for all the oppression he has caused.

Author: kubatana6
Mon Mar 2 06:38:12 2009

zola, you are a childish lost soul - i feel sorry for you and hope you can get some pro help to straighten you brainwashed head.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Mon Mar 2 08:21:29 2009

Kub, I'm glad you realise my brain has been washed, It has been washed by Jesus to clear the sin out. It is spotless in the eyes of God, Shows how filthy your mind and heart are so you can stumble around in your own darkness.

Author: afric35
Mon Mar 2 17:53:06 2009

zolo zuzu zambezia or whoever you call yourself well just b/c you say Jesu has washed you brain free of sin shows how little you know about who Jesus is and if you did then you would realize you need your heart cleansed by Jesus and confess with your own mouth your sins and ask Jesus to forgive you for what you have done. I read your comments and you call yourself cleansed by Jesus well then you better try practicing your faith b/c with all of your hateful remarks against whites that shows me you are disobeying the greatest command of Jesus LOVE one another that includes whites...

So be careful to whom you are judging b/c as you are judging so will you also be judged and remember when you start showing someone else their sin be watchful before you know it you will be caught in the same sin..

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Tue Mar 3 17:01:26 2009

Afric, I was talking about my brain.I was replying to a post saying that i was brainwashed and I answered that. Every Christian knows that it is the blood of Jesus which was shed for all mankind to be freed from the slavery of the devil to cleanse our hearts because thats where lifes blood comes from Jesus Blood washes away all sin. I may stumble along the way yes, I bet you do to, no-one is perfect only Jesus and we are only made perfect by Him who lives in us.. He took your sins, mine and everyone elses. Did I say I hate whites? no, did i say i hate blacks, no. I do not hate anyone I hate the sin. Love the sinner hate the sin. Hence why Jesus said to peter Get behind me satan and not Get behind me Peter.It was Christ's blood who set us free from sin for those who acknowledge him as the one true way, the truth and the life. No one gets to the father except through Jesus.I have said before that God is Colour blind in the way that he does not judge one by their colour. God will only judge by the grace shown through his Son. It is up to each and one of us if we accept that grace or not.

Author: afric35
Tue Mar 3 19:56:01 2009

zola zuzu well spoken and AMEN sorry I miss took some of your comments so please forgive me!

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Wed Mar 4 19:18:38 2009

Afric, no problem, I can see you are man of God. You are a big man to say what you have said. That takes guts.

Author: Elder
Sun Mar 1 18:01:22 2009

Someone please advise whether Mbeki attended this bash fashioned on colonial lines. In our old ways we did not have this sort of thing as we did not even keep birth records so would now know who was born when. Nowadays young children insist on parties because of the cakes and drinks. Not so sure why old Mugabe always insists on a party for him and why so vain as to want so much attention. How many died of Cholera while they were dining in Chinhoyi, how went without food on that day alone? When are Zimbabwean schools opening?

Author: chokora
Sun Mar 1 23:55:26 2009

"Mugabe Defends Fresh Farm Invasions"

By Caiphas Chimhete

Poor native - saddled with cursed foreign tongues of the murderers of his ancestors!

What the native really wanted to write is:

"Cde Mugabe Honours the Peoples' Ancestral Farm Reclamation."

. But this native in no Chief Lobengula. Nor is this native Mbuya Nehanda. [ But he may be a rhodie hyena parading as a native ...]

Author: jallohlaw
Mon Mar 2 12:49:28 2009

THE GREAT WARRIOR, CDE. ROBERT MUGAGE, THE GLORIOUS AND GRACIOUS SON OF AFRICA, despite or because of the illusions, obfuscations and ignorance of his distractors, shines AGAIN like a diamond in the dark of night.

First, the Warrior is legally correct: the land will never revert, and land that remains in the possession of the beneficiaries of the INVASION will be justly appropriated. The recourse of the beneficiaries, painted in big black letters on a white wall, is the courts, and that position, a legally founded position, is the position of the GNU, period.

Everything else, including the ad homimen claptrap and worse, is repulsive, regressive rot: a mechanical manifestation of the effect of THE DEFEAT.

Second, the GNU POLICY of the IRREVERSIBILITY OF THE LAND should be surgically separated from the ISSUE, and it is an issue in the legal sense, of the beneficiaries of the policy.

That is a question open to reasonable debate within and, only within, the African pathos of "unity within difference."

GLORY THEN TO THE GREAT WARRIOR AND GLORIOUS AND GRACIOUS SON OF AFRICA, CDE. ROBERT MUGABE for legally reclaiming the HONOR of his ancestors, defeated by INVADERS who, instead of INTERNALIZING AND TRANSFORMING THEIR SOULS with their superior will to power, became JIHADISTS, AND KILLED AND STOLE THE LANDS OF PEOPLE AFRICAN.

Now, the chickens have come home to roost.

Glory then, AGAIN, to Cde. Mugabe: our ancestors had no access to courts, but the beneficiaries of their ignoble humiliation do.

Glory then, to the GNU.

Author: awt_independent
Mon Mar 2 13:54:37 2009

Once again Jellyboobs shows us all that there is a mental asylum somewhere missing a patient.

Author: jallohlaw
Mon Mar 2 15:06:53 2009

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Specifically, we note the deformation, distortion, and similar issue ducking and obscurantist gestures of the nom de plume 'jallowlaw'; distortions that make your esteemed site a cousin of PLAYBOY.

Now, the nom de plume 'awt-independent', despite repeated warnings by way of deletions, epitomizes this sordid literary trope.

WE SHALL HOLD OUR FIRE FOR THE LAST TIME OUT OF RESPECT FOR YOUR ENTITY AND YOUR READERS.

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Author: awt_independent
Mon Mar 2 15:42:58 2009

aaaw JELLY BOOBS! Rather ironic considering that 90% of your posts get deleted dont you think? The truth is that the editors of AllAFRICA.COM couldnt care less that you cant stand a little bit of banter. You call people names, abuse people and critisize people here left right and centre, so really, and as soon as someone calls you a name you cry off like a baby. Welcome to the real world JELLY BOOBS! Your crying wont help you here.

Author: awt_independent
Mon Mar 2 15:43:53 2009

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Author: awt_independent
Mon Mar 2 15:46:40 2009

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Author: TexasBob
Fri Mar 6 23:41:05 2009

Jelly-Boobs....Today Mugabe/JOC did a Hit Job on Morgan, Killed his wife and an aide. Comrade Robert Mugabe, Dictator and Killer....Guess you really love that stuff. If you can't beat them, kill them.

Author: chokora
Wed Mar 4 07:20:53 2009

The tales of a faded but still virulent rhodie empire:

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/03/03/diplomatic-hiccup/

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/03/03/the-non-empirical-insecurity-of- a-faded-empire/

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/03/03/the-non-empirical-insecurity-of- a-faded-empire/

Author: Omugabe
Mon Mar 2 23:47:14 2009

Happy birthday, Mr President, Virtuous & Magnanimous Mugabe, African Hero!

Every cubic centimeter of African lands MUST be repatriated, and the invading criminals made to pay compensation for decades of evils against the indigenous population.

All the criminals invaders MUJST be subjected to the Rule of Law, confined, have all African loot seized, and forced to pay compensation for generations of crimes against African people. Then it is up to the Africans to do as they see fit with their indigenous space. After all, no African could go to Europe and lay claim to European space? In fact, the immigrant Jews lived in Europe for 2000 years. And after 2000 years, the Jews were gassed and baked by Europeans just for being in European space.

Europeans are not even immigrant in Africa. They are CRIMINAL invaders who entered uninvited and UNPROVOKED! Now it's time for the long arm of the Rule of Law to catch up with the invading thieves in Zimbabwe.

Author: TexasBob
Tue Mar 3 00:02:45 2009

I saw this coming on my last visit to Salisbury, 2 years ago. Zimbabwe is a black country that has no room for whites. I felt the racism everywhere I went, even in the trendy night clubs.....there was an unwritten sign.."Whites not Welcome." And the beat goes on. Comrade Bob is doing his ethnic cleansing, running off all white farmers. They will give the farms to some black crony and the land will become a weed patch. Even if Mugabe croaks tomorrow, the JOC and Heads of the military will retain all control of Zimbabwe. It is already a military junta without portfolio. Nothing will change in the near future. Cholera will run rampant. There will be no banking, medical or school systems, the currency will be worthless, and Mugabe and his cronies will continue to live lavish lifestyles. It is so tragic. I remember the good days of Rhodesia by flying the Rhodesian flag every day.

Author: kjrs120
Tue Mar 3 10:12:29 2009

TexasBob, to me, just as your Rhodesian flag represents white racism, as long as Mugabe is in power and from now on with what he is doing to those white Zimbabwean farmers, the Zimbabwean flag represents black racism. I am sorry for Mr Tsvangirai who has tried to stop all this. You were wise to leave when you did and you should have no regrets for doing so or for whatever you lost in the process because obviously there is no future for any white person in Zimbabwe. All white people still there, should wind up and leave and not wait until they are beaten and brutalized. Hell, its not worth losing your life for a piece of land. But wait and see, all this land being taken is not going to go to the people. It's all going to Mugabe and his zanu-PF and Zimbabweans will continue to starve and look to other nations to feed their hungry. So TexasBob, enjoy your Rhodesian flag and fly it high as Zimbabwe is racist too.

Author: akapfunde1
Thu Mar 5 12:01:40 2009

Hey Kjr... Yeah just like the Duke of Normandy, William the Conquerer, did. He parcelled out the cream of the land to his cronies some of these families still own chunkies of England, eg the Marquess of Gascoyne, otherwise known as Lord Salisbury. Henry the eighth similarly parcelled out monastery estates to his friends .. these still own and live in these establishments. Whats wrong with our President facilitaing the same. Its the workings of power throughout the ages. Immoral and unfair perhaps, but thats the way of the world.

Author: mrzyphl
Thu Mar 5 15:34:10 2009

Aka

You reference times before the Magna Carta, before the age of enlightenment, before the industrial revolution. Do you know that a Zimbabwean can buy an estate in the english countryside or any 'western' country without discrimination? Yet hardworking, highly skilled english farmers are having their property and possessions taken without compensation and given to corrupt, inept people that can't tell a plow from a combine.

Get with the 21st century dude. Your land policy is racist and backward. It has done massive internal damage to the economy by itself without any action from the 'west'. Is this your definition of progress?

Author: kjrs120
Fri Mar 6 09:03:39 2009

Akapfunde, in your ignorance you are describing the bad practice of nepotism. What Mugabe is practicing to those Zimbabwean white farmers is racism. The more Mugabe persecutes, brutalizes or murders those people just because they are white, he will not have to answer for crimes against humanity but for genocide. You see for you, roach, do you know that even though you encourage Mugabe and commit crimes he tells you to do, when the going gets tough, it will not only be Mugabe's arse on the line. As I have said before, aggrieved people do not forget faces as every body knows everybody in a community. Those of you who are committing these dastardly acts of violence and murder will not disappear like cockroaches that you are, but will be identified and you too will get what you deserve. You are a racist swine and you deserve to be drowned.

Author: akapfunde1
Mon Mar 9 10:34:11 2009

Kjrs ... you agree that we Africans suffered racism for a hundred years ..till 1980. And the settler Europeans (not whites) are getting the same medicine, a fraction as bitter, and only for 25 years so far ... and what a loud cry they are bellowing??!! The settler Europeans created racism and they want to pretend that it never happened. No my dear, some of us have scars that wont go away. President Mugabe is not doing a thorough enough job, l was disappointed to learn that there are still over 300 settlers occupying fertile Zimbabwe. They should all go like they did in India and Ghana and will soon do in Ireland.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Mon Mar 9 19:15:57 2009

Ak47, why are you doing the same as the "racist whites" you say that you are better than that, so why do you lower yourself to the " oppressors" level?

Author: kjrs120
Tue Mar 10 08:06:53 2009

Akapfunde, you are very correct that African people suffered a tremendous amount of racism, but unfortunately, it has not ended in 1980. It continues in 2009 with you and you are allowing it to continue like a hereditary disease without a cure. You often talk about your family members being of all sorts of racial mixtures, and I think it is such a shame that you, their sekuru, has a white racial hangup. You, as a Mugabe supporter, what are you going to do when those brutalized by Mugabe and you lot, the Ndebele, the Zimbabwean white farmers, and the MDC supporters, who also have scars to show for it, want retribution? You are going to turn and run all because you have bent yourself so low.

Author: akapfunde1
Tue Mar 10 14:58:32 2009

You are not telling JEWS to stop thinking, writing and talking about their experiences under NAZIs? Do you accept that Holocausts and polgrons never took place in Europe? What has having mixed blood relations to do with the 100 years of downright racism at the hands of those now making vociferously accusary at the new Zimbabwe. All my descendants know about CHIBARO and other oppressive practices of the settlers just as young English children dislike Germans despite that the war was fought long before they were born. Zimbabwe ndeye Ziya neRopa!!!

Author: kjrs120
Wed Mar 11 02:16:00 2009

Akapfunde, no one is expected to forget or stop talking about their suffering. Every effort should be made that whatever it was that caused that suffering should never happen again. I agree with you that the Jewish people have done a tremendous thing tirelessly capturing according to law those who committed atrocities to them. You however, are so eaten up by hatred that you have become a racist, the very thing that made Hitler do those barbaric deeds to the Jewish people. Not only have you become a racist but you have become a hater of your own Zimbabweans by supporting, enabling and accommodating Mugabe in his atrocities. What went through your mind when you lot killed thousands of people in Matabeleland, then killing the Zimbabwean white farmers and most recently killing all those Zimbabwean MDC supporters? You had and still have absolutely no conscious about that. So stop your sob story about being victimized by whites when YOU are in fact a victimiser of Zimbabweans. When you go supporting dictators, no one has any sympathy for you.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Wed Mar 11 08:35:32 2009

Ak, English children don't like the germans, where in tarnation did you get that one from. Lets see, Britan , Germany and a whole lot of other states now make up the EU, working together for a "common good", They have learnt the lessons, Zimbabwe has not. Holocausts did happen in Europe and it is because of that is why europe cannot afford to let it to happen again, they have learnt, Why is it that Zimbabwe doesn't learn. Is Zimbabwe better???? then prove it, because all what can be seen is death and destruction on a major scale. You want the land back???? what are you doing with it? why is the country starving? Actions speak a lot louder than words. The Jews write about their experiences to show the world that it must not go back and make the same mistakes, that's learning from History and let others know not to make the same mistakes. That's what should be happening in Zimbabwe, You can't change the past, only learn from it. You do not want to make the same mistakes, you should want to show the world that you are much better than the former.Forget about the revenge because you are hurting the wrong people, Vengence shall be mine says the Lord. They will be answerable to God. Do you honestly think that the former, who you say caused the problem actually cares about you and others, THEY DON'T. The only way you can go forward is to forgive and hand it on to God, You can show that you are better than the predesessor, by doing this, I'm not saying forget about it, but you can learn from it and show your children how much better you are now that you've been able to deal with those kind of things in your life. Do you think itis right to show your children that you should hit another when they have done wrong to you, it teaches them that it is right to beat another person who didn't cause the situation. Rise above it, i know you can, show your children what you achieved through true love and reconcilliation and hold your head high knowing that you are better than the person you say caused the situation.

Author: hwaai oh why
Sat Mar 7 19:45:24 2009

Mupfana those are Zimbabwean farmers not english farmers, most of them don't even have British passports anymore and almost all of them renounced their right to a British one when they were forced to choose

Author: hwaai oh why
Sat Mar 7 19:46:49 2009

If you condone the practice of "might is right" then on what basis do you criticize colonialism and slavery?

Author: ragtimer
Fri Mar 6 15:57:26 2009

"Whats wrong with our President facilitaing the same."

Nothing, as long as you don't mind living with the horrors of the English Dark Age... millions starving, dying of plague, etc.

You could perhaps learn from European history, and not make the same mistakes yourselves... but I guess that's just silly talk, isn't it?

Author: TexasBob
Wed Mar 4 06:25:46 2009

Most of the white Rhodies left carrying their dead. I know of no family who did not have members killed by screaming locals. I have a post elsewhere that details some of this. But I share post of a Mate of mine up in the State Of Illinois....He has 500 acres. It produces 3 crops a year of genetically engineered corn. Had He not been run outta Zimbabwe, he would have gladly produced those same crops..... I raise beef cattle and me mates raise dairy cattle. To the man, we miss that part of Africa, but it is obvious, the blacks cannot tolerate having the whites around. We are old, we live with our memorys, and the Rhodesian flag will fly every day, under the US flag, the Texas flag and the Confederate Stars and Bars. Truckers stop several time a week and ask what kind of flag is that....and I tell them it is a blood stained memory.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Fri Mar 6 19:19:15 2009

Texasbob, I do not see this as the blacks not wanting the whites, It is mugabe's henchman who don't want the whites.

Author: kubatana6
Tue Mar 3 22:38:43 2009

Hey bobbo, Salisbury, Gwelo, Hartley, Umtali and rhodesia is your problem. We do not take kindly to those racist names. rhodesia is long gone but you ' WHEN WE'S ' still think it will come back - how sad. You go ahead and fly that stupid meaningless flag in texASS and stay there you good for nothing loser!

Author: kjrs120
Wed Mar 4 03:32:46 2009

Kubatana, who are you to say anything you racist. You spend your day like a goat going "Mbeee' feeding on the grass of the white man behind whose house you rent. YOU go back to your country of Mugabe and all you Zanu -pf racist dim wits and start learning how to farm for you will now starve to death for sure without those Zimbabwean white farmers. America has put you African racists all to shame. President Obama's father was not an American, not even by naturalization, but Kenyan. Because Obama was BORN in America, he has all the rights to own land and even become an American president - the first black president in America. That's democracy and GOING FORWARD in the 21st century.

Author: kubatana6
Sat Mar 7 04:45:27 2009

kjrs, do you really think we care about who Obama's father is ? Obama is just another American who can never identify with a Zimbabwean or another African. He's just another American who want's to' change the world' (His words) - who said the world wants to change ?

Author: kjrs120
Sun Mar 8 10:03:01 2009

kubatana, you are just pissed that President Obama is not a dictator. You thought he would pander to Mugabe's whims and you would all have a hay day, but instead he told Mugabe where to get off until he, Mugabe, learned to respect the welfare of all the Zimbabwean people. He stuck it to Mugabe with sanctions another year and there is nothing you can do about it. Just lump it until Mugabe learns to behave like a human being.

Author: TexasBob
Wed Mar 4 06:36:14 2009

No worries mate. Why would I want to live next door to someone like you. We have plenty of room here in Texas to spread out, take care of our families, and not die from things like HIV and Cholera. And that meaningless flys daily because I remember the good days in that part of the world.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Wed Mar 4 19:24:02 2009

I am amazed. The hague has issued a warrent of arrest for the sudanese president for what he has done to Sudan which is a lot less than what Bob has done to Zimbabwe. This must be a test case for when they issue the warrent of arrest for Bob and gang. Should be very interesting.

Author: kjrs120
Thu Mar 5 00:13:20 2009

Zola, greetings to you and may the peace of Christ be with you in spite of so much dysfunction surrounding you in your country. Well to date the court has opened investigations into North Uganda, DRC, Central African republic and Darfur. Public arrest warrants have been issued for 13 people: 7 remain free, two have died and 4 are in custody. The court's first trial is that of the Congolese militia leader, Thomas Lubanga, which started January 26th 2009. As far as Mugabe is concerned, it is just a matter of time. What he is doing to the Zimbabwean white framers right now is really bringing himself more into the light as a racist causing more and more world leaders to shun him and more ordinary people to loathe him. His actions are abhorrent to those farmers but good for him because now he, himself, will make it easier to put that last nail on his own coffin. There are many aggrieved people whose family were tortured and butchered by Mugabe after the year 2002. Even if Zimbabwe pardons him, there are others in many ICC member countries that I hope will band together and have him prosecuted. These Zanu-Pf monsters will have a rude awakening as the arm of the law stretches very far.

Author: kjrs120
Thu Mar 5 10:08:26 2009

Kubatana, I suggest you go back to Zimbabwe to learn how to farm because all you greedy and ignorant Zanu-Pf thugs know nothing about farming and now that you will not have the white Zimbabwean farmer to feed you, you will starve to death. Don't even try telling me you know how to farm because all this time you have been complaining that the white man took ALL your land. Well lets count. If ALL your land was taken in 1890, then by Ian Smith and presently by the white Zimbabwean farmers, that means you have not farmed in 119 years. So then it is correct to say you zanu-pf dumb wits have no clue and yet you are grabbing the land just for yourselves. I suppose grace Mugabe is in hog heaven with all the white farmers' property at her disposal. Greedy morons. Ya, you say your ancestors knew how to farm - ya right. Those days all they knew was subsistence farming and not commercial farming. They raised livestock and crops to feed the family with just enough to store in the out-house barn and as you exhausted the land you moved from site to site.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Thu Mar 5 16:07:08 2009

KJRS, thanks for that, Bob was upset that the whites had, a third of the land. What was he doing with the other two thirds. They didn't know what to do with it. He kept off the black farmers who knew how to farm and handed everything to his pals. So much unproductive land is absolutely incredible, Kubatan and co complain about the white man trying to farm. Wonder why they aren't moaning about their masters not feeding them from the land which they stole from a lot of farmers after 1980. Have a look on YOUTUBE.COM sometime and look up Robert Mugabe's Palace. It is a major eyeopener.

Author: kubatana6
Sat Mar 7 04:50:09 2009

zola how can you say we stole the land ? What is wrong with you ? Has 'Baas' brainwashed you so much? We feel very sorry for you kitchen boys.

Author: mrzyphl
Sat Mar 7 16:26:47 2009

Look in the constitution of any progressive democracy under individual rights, property rights and due process. The property seizures are against the law even by Zimbabwes' constitutional satandards. Mugabe is ignoring his own country's laws by declaring new edicts with no substance out of thin air. This is called Kleptocracy and thus the farm seizures are called 'legal theft'.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Sat Mar 7 18:14:39 2009

OK Kubatana, did you learn anything in your History lessons, The tribes came down from Central Africa a long time ago and systimatically removed the San ( bushman) from the land of Agysimba ( land of gold, between the Zambezi and Limpopo rivers). Not forgetting now , what does Monomatapa (Mwenamutapa) mean, You are part of this tribe ,yes, There are a lot of Shona words which are the same in Swahili, proving the shona came down from central africa,The meaning now, KNG OF THE CONQUERED LAND. So Zimbabwe was first a colony of the land which is now called Kenya, Burundi,Rwanda etc. That is how you have your so called land for the people. Don't try and help a person with a speck in their eyes when you have a log in your own. And as for brainwashed, I have already expained that one to you.

Author: kubatana6
Sun Mar 8 13:14:47 2009

zola, you are right about one thing. The Shona did move into Zimbabwe a long time ago. Now that is the key word A VERY LONG TIME AGO. It is OUR LAND! By the way zola, who or what are you? Are you a rhodie or a Black Zimbabwean?

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Mon Mar 9 09:14:34 2009

Kub, glad to see that we agree with each other in one respect, At least you now recognise that Our fore fathers came from cntral africa to colonise the land, Two differnet tribes from two different parts of the world came to a land which belonged to the San. Shouldn't we all respect them and give their land back, I know your answer will be no. So as you've put it, The blacks and whites and anyother have all come to the land of the Rozvi Empire, wouldn't it be better for all to get on with one another in life? What am I? you ask. I Am , an adopted son of the Living God who wants a better country for all, Why is skin colour important, It's not important to my Father, so it's not important to me, As I Am a son of Zimbabwe and I Am a son of the Father who sees no skin colour. I respect anyone of any colour , creed or race, Why the race thing? Humans in general have always moved to different parts of the planet, the key thing here is how we get on with one another, not about greed, There is more than enough land in Zimbabwe for all to have. I want a Zimbabwe where everyone can get on with each other, I bet you do to. we can agree to disagree but can still have the grace to respect each others rights of a free existance. Rhodesia as you know was named after Cecil Rhodes. the i and a remind me of - In-Africa, so Rhodes-In-Africa, That's old and gone, it's in the past and that cannot be changed, it is up to each and one of us to forge a new decent destiny for all to share in and learn from the mistakes of the past. Zimbawe, remind me if i'm right, Dzembawe, meaning House of Stone. Now we know the Actual House of Stone is broken down a bit by Masvingo, Time for us all to rebuild and fix the house of stone in ourselves and live in Great Zimbabwe together and learn to love and respect one another.

Author: kubatana6
Tue Mar 10 23:08:11 2009

zola, you did mean poofter rhodies didn't you? You say that there is enough land in Zimbabwe for everyone? Why are you telling us Blacks that? Go and tell your rhodie mates that. Now dont give us this God vibe again - ARE YOU BLACK OR WHITE? Easy question to answer and you should not be ashamed of telling us who you are.

Author: kjrs120
Wed Mar 11 07:14:10 2009

Kubatana, why do you keep bugging Zola as to who or what he is? You seem obsessed. Plan on having him hunted down?

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Wed Mar 11 08:47:07 2009

Ak, why is it important, to know my colour, what do you want me to be, do you want to stereotype me. My God is not ashamed of my colour so why are you. You say I have Rhodie mates, who told you these tales, I Am who God made me. I Am a son of Zimbabwe. Ok to answer your question, I am black/white/yellow/red. Does that answer you now. I Am the citizen of the Kingdom of Heaven here on Earth representing my Father who has called me by name to bring the good news to all. Just by you asking me my colour shows that you have a problem with people of a different race, I thought you were better than that and would be able to rise above such an insignificant factor and to show your children what you have done for a better Zimbabwe as a whole for everyone.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Wed Mar 11 20:33:58 2009

Kub, why are you imposing an aparthied regime in Zimbabwe, Didn't you and other freedom fighters fight for the liberation of all from the oppression of aparthied? I thought you would be able to rise above the "oppressors" level and show the world that you are better than that. Obviously you have not learnt anything from history. Do you want your children to make the same mistakes that you have made in life, dare i say it, you would say no. So why teach them hate. Are you better than the white invader? if so prove it. Mainly to your children.

Author: kjrs120
Tue Mar 10 07:41:26 2009

Zola what a great answer.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Tue Mar 10 13:17:55 2009

KJRS, thanks for that, I am darn sure it would be the same sort of answer which Jesus would give.

Author: hwaai oh why
Sat Mar 7 19:29:26 2009

It's not true to say that the Rhodesians got wealthy simply because of cheap labour. Africa is full of cheap labour, the communal areas are rife with entirely free or cheap labour. Until Zimbabweans acknowledge at every level of society that wealth is something that is created through implementing, mananging and maintaining effective systems then we will forever be in the doldrums. This blame of Rhodesians for their wealth is nothing but a lack of introspection in realising our own shortcomings. If we want to be rich like the Rhodesians we must put in place systems that work. At the moment Zanu PF is the antithesis of functioning systems.

Author: TexasBob
Sat Mar 7 22:23:18 2009

hwaai: very interesting post. Also the comments of kjrs and zulu were read with interest. As a point of order, most of the Rhodies did not leave wealthy. Their wealth was the land they were driven off of. And actually, none want to return. They don't want their old stations back. They are too old to start over. And they have sorrow that healthy farms and cattle stations have become weed patches. For the most part, the Mates I talk to read the posts here and else where as a point of interest, not a point of conspiracy. We been there, done that. Now it your turn to make the land productive. There is more sympathy in our community for the well being of Zimbabwe than you may suspect. It is time for Zimbabwe makes up its mind whether it wants to be the productive country it once was, or another Somalia. Y'all Be Well

Author: kubatana6
Sun Mar 8 13:20:01 2009

TexASS, that's bull****! rhodies have been sending money out of Zimbabwe since the rhodesia days so you all have money. How could you start farms and businesses overseas without MONEY? You got your wealth by using cheap slave labour in Zimbabwe.

Author: kjrs120
Mon Mar 9 00:18:12 2009

Kubatana, even though labour was cheap, all of which was not exported was consumed within the country, meaning that food and other goods were affordable and you being the majority were the ones with the purchasing power. So as far as wages are concerned, they were low but food etc was affordable. Today you have NO wages and are starving.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Mon Mar 9 09:31:47 2009

Kub, very few " Rhodesians" sent and still remit cash out of the country, Bredenkamp, Rautenbach and Davey for example,then there's Van Hoogstraten who isn't Zim or Rhodie but a pommie of Dutch decent who has huge ranches in Zim and pays great b ig backhanders to Bob so to keep his "land", All are mates with Bob. Now in the same respect, a lot of Zimbabweans living outside the country send a hell of a lot of the earned money overseas back home to help those in dire need of funds. Remember one thing, a hell of a lot of Zimbos could not take any money with them because there was no foreign currncy to be taken with them since about 1988 and major restrictions were put on the people and they couldn't even take their furniture with them. A few ex Rhodies have done quite well after leaving Zim, take Mike Kruger, MD of MK Airlines in the UK, his uncle owned and ran Afritair before it was nationilsed. Hey even a black zimbabwe farmer is farming in the UK now and doing very very well, can't remember his name, He's a blimen hard working guy and really making a go of it. He even has a few whities working for him.

Author: libero
Mon Mar 2 09:48:22 2009

Mugabe has gone politically senile. Period! ZANU-P have low self-esteem and low expactations. How could anyone keep a man like that this long in power? Only people without ambitions can accomplished this destruction.

Author: chokora
Tue Mar 10 20:07:54 2009

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