Author: takunya_ndebvu
Fri Jun 5 14:38:01 2009

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Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Fri Jun 5 16:20:46 2009

Tak, how can you have a God given right when you are the devil?

Author: afric35
Fri Jun 5 17:14:19 2009

taykuna well your name calling continues and just to enlighten you these are hearing only nothing has happened yet. You call people racists and idiots and it does not prove you are right or intelligent but acting like a three year old child throwing a fit because things did not go his way. That is what you, Mugabe and the Zanu are sounding like.

When did it become the West's job to keep you alive it is not your right it just shows that you are lazy and doing as your corrupt government does. Asking for free handouts so you do not have to work. Guess what the people who this money is for never sees a penny only the corrupt government gets richer and the poor get poorer. I do blame the West for giving money out and not holding people accountable to where the money is going that is their fault.

Again Taykuna you are proving nothing other than you like to call people names...

Author: katz
Sat Jun 6 10:19:45 2009

Cde Ndebvu - I notice that you like making statements and comments but are very reluctant to respond to any questions put to you in respect of those posts. That is the coward's way out.

Now lets see if you can actually respond to a couple of soft questions before we start to probe a little deeper.

Question 1: you accuse me of denying the existence of sanctions. Can you show me where I have said this? (For the record, I have consistently said that there are indeed sanctions but that only one is general and meaningful - namely the removal of budgetary support and balance of payments support.)

Question 2: Before the implementation of ZDERA, the IMF and the World Bank had already stopped giving money to Zimbabwe because it was at that time already the only country in long term default and the Funds voted by at least 85% (the required mandate) to withhold further support. To obtain an 85% vote China,Russia and many other countries would have had to have voted in favour. My question for you - why do you think that Zimbabwe should have been made an exception to the rules that apply to every other country?

C'mon Cde Ndebvu - show some balls and respond to the questions!

Author: prem
Thu Jun 11 13:48:30 2009

Sanctions gainst criminal Mugabe and his thugs,? YES. there are and they must continue until Mugabe's illegitimate rule ends and until all his thugs are brought before court to justify their huge illegally acquired wealth!

Sanctions against individual criminals and looters are not against the country. Sanctions forced Mugabe to concede to a GNU. Continued sanctions will strengthen Tsvangirai's strategy to steer the MDC to power in due course if ever free and fair elections are held.

Only a minority of privileged Zimbos are complaining about sanctions. The majority of Zimbos are complaining about a general lack basic amenities that criminal Mugabe has been unable to deliver during his 29 years of misrule.

Author: ceeztheprince
Fri Jun 5 19:36:41 2009

Imperialism, neo-colonialism is the enemy!! Take the land back! Black Power. Tsvangirai is coming over here to lick boots, and get c.i.a. killers and real terrorist!

Author: afric35
Sat Jun 6 05:53:47 2009

ceeztheprince is showing his true racial colors and only proving that but otherwise making useless claims. ceeztheprince did you work for the land or did your family work for it? I am pretty sure not so just because you are black and Zimbabwean does not make the land yours. Anyways the Zanu-pf takes it for themselves not just any Zimbabwean gets the land and they do it by force. Oh yeah this is real proper...

Author: kjrs120
Mon Jun 8 07:42:59 2009

ceeztheprince - "Take the land back! Black power" - spoken like a real idiot and an ignorant one at that. You are obviously ignorant of the fact that Zimbabwe through Mugabe stands a great chance of being censored by the SADC tribunal because it determined that the land seizures are "racist and illegal." Zimbabwe is in contempt of the regional courts because in November 2008, it was ruled that 77 commercial farmers who were violently removed from their farms be compensated. If Mugabe continues arsing around, these actions could mean sanctions passed against Zimbabwe or expulsion from SADC. Your racism will land you in deep shit.

Author: takunya_ndebvu
Fri Jun 12 09:12:09 2009

Afric35(Brit35);

No other criteria can be used to determine the true owner of IVHU Re Zimbabwe except being black and Zimbabwean. Of course for you and your fellow colonizer, Awt, money is the determining factor to the ownership of anything. That is why you tell those who care to listen, that property rights only started with the coming of invaders.

But let me tell you that before the coming of racist invaders, the whole land mass between the Zambezi River and the Port City of Beira belonged to Monomutapa – The Monomutapa Empire – and the Headquarters was the Stone Houses in Masvingo – The Great Zimbabwe Ruins which you have failed to destroy as you did with other historical sites. Thus your claim that black Zimbabweans do not have rights to the land of their ancestors is just as stupid as it is racist.

Author: TD
Sat Jun 6 00:25:35 2009

Awt and africa35, there is an article not from the Herald but from the pro MDC independent paper, what is your take, do you still deny the existence of these sanctions. We are not exonarating ZPF for mismangement, but the point is that these sanctions have also caused untold suffering on the people of Zimbabwe, and never should this be allowed again in future for the gratification of the silly politicians.

Author: afric35
Sat Jun 6 05:50:07 2009

TD I never said this came from the Herald and whether it is coming from the MDC or whoever is pushing this story you must know the people suffer in Zimbabwe because of your government not because the West. Listen yeah say they give money again but remember everything is tied to the government and even you have agreed of how they misuse the funds. This will only continue and the people who truly need help get no help. This just makes the government richer. The Zanu-PF and MDC still have not shown they are a unified government and words alone cannot be trusted. They are still arguing and bickering amongst each other so understand why the West is hesitant to give.

Author: amazedattheraciscm
Sun Jun 7 08:49:49 2009

Don't deceive yourselves corrupt zanu-pf scumbags - Gono and the old time crew of miltary and intelligence scum will have to resign first. The problem is - tribalism and ignorance will prevent this deal from implementation. Pathetic - but true.

Author: rafil
Sat Jun 6 10:15:29 2009

The pressure is finally paying off, these criminal,racist inspired and wicked sanctions must be removed.Those fools on here that,ve always sought to misinform the general public on the issues of illegal sanctions against Zimbabwe have to now come out and exonerate themselves, even though, I care less for their apologies knowing fully well their missions on this thread (lying,deception,propaganda) All of these people should go get a life or simply go hang, they don,t seem like liking their life as presently run.THE LAND ISSUE IS NON NEGOTIABLE. ALL CRIMINAL WESTERN ENTERPRISES ON THE African continent must be destroyed by way of Africans encouraging and taking very seriously the issue of SOUTH SOUTH trade.Trade between sister African countries will do more good than harm,for GOD,S sake let,s try something new for a change.The Americans are feeling just a little of the kind of pressure that must henceforth be utilized on this wicked, greedy, criminal world if we,re desirous of finding lasting solutions to most of our problems which on most occasions are not locally hatched.DROP THOSE ILLEGAL,WICKED, RACIST INSPIRED SANCTIONS, now.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Sat Jun 6 21:21:46 2009

Rafiki, Those illegai, racist sanctions are one of the reasons why Bob had to sign up to the GNU. Bob knew that without Morgan tsvangarai, then he was totally finished. MT saved Bob's backside.

Author: upliftdarace_144
Mon Jun 8 07:17:49 2009

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