Author: mabhiza
Tue Jun 30 20:25:25 2009

...Nothing but racist western propaganda from this pirate radio station that is violating our sovereignty..They expose themselves of who they really are with pathetic articles like these..Embittered british settler thieves who we removed to pave way for the rightful owners of that land-the indigenous proud blacks..

Author: awt_independent
Wed Jul 1 08:26:33 2009

and so Grace could own 3 farms, and all the farm workers on these "stolen back" farms have lost their jobs...

Author: afric35
Tue Jul 7 18:46:51 2009

mabhiza well you can call the West names all you want and blacks like you are proud and arrogant but I promise you with that mindset you will fall and fall very hard one day. It is one thing to be proud but to be arrogant and very racist well that is another and there is nothing to proud of when you act like you do!!

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Tue Jun 30 20:36:39 2009

Mugabe on food security?????? HA. what a joke. All he will say is look at my birthday cake it is so big, I can secure my food no problem, and as for the povo they can go and hang or go to hell, I am very secure, too sure, for sure ahh no,maiwe, akuna,ewe. Remembering back, Bob mortgaged off quite a few stolen farms to libyans for the oil which he didn't pay for so the libyans can eat food from Zimbabwe whilst poor zimbabweans starve whilst he feeds his fat face. Bloody terrorist of the worst criminal type.

Author: kjrs120
Wed Jul 1 02:46:03 2009

Asking Mugabe to talk about food security is like asking a known active thief to lecture against home break-ins. How can Mugabe talk about "food security in Africa" when even the food sent to his country in aid for hungry children is stolen by him. What a laugh indeed? Morons being represented by a moron.

Author: juhlman
Wed Jul 1 06:41:04 2009

Robert Mugabe is going to address food security to the AU?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Will ZANU-PF's Minister of Barbeques be attending with Bloodstained Bob? Perhaps he can share dry-rub recipes with fellow AU Ministers of Barbeques at the "Summit".

What kind of sick joke is this? Oh yes! All of Africa should follow Zimbabwe's bold leadership towards food security!

I'm sorry, Pol Pot wasn't available to give the keynote speech? The Somalis can't get to the conference because their Yemeni Air flight went down? Please, who is a worse example for Africa to follow than Zimbabwe when it comes to the vaunted concept of food security?

Can't the AU find SOMEBODY in Africa to "front" this "initiative" whose country doesn't depend on foreign food aid to feed HALF their population?

"Total Empowerment!"

Author: katz
Wed Jul 1 09:54:49 2009

"The President will join other Heads of State and Government at the summit, whose theme, "Investing in Agriculture for Economic Growth and Food Security", .... Zimbabwe's experiences and lessons in this regard are expected to enrich deliberations at the summit...." Extract from the Herald article on the same subject. Surely one of the most ludicrous comments of recent times.

Author: upliftdarace_144
Wed Jul 1 17:07:33 2009

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Author: juhlman
Thu Jul 2 06:04:51 2009

"Uplift".........it's on!

Since Mr. "Upliftdarace" likes to cut-&-paste, please allow me to respond in kind...........

Mr. Uplift:

I grew tired of your cut-&-paste doggerel, so I decided to fact-check your claims that Black Africans actually “invented” the things you have claimed they did (courtesy of the Black Inventors Museum in Los Angeles, California). Most of your claims are out and out WRONG or complete fabrications! Maybe you’ve heard of this “invention” called Wikipedia?

I have put counter-claims to your assertions that Black Africans “invented” many of the things you claim they have. As a matter of FACT it is somewhat disingenuous of you NOT to mention that most of these “inventors” were people of African descent living in the United States (coincidence? I think not)! I have placed contrary evidence to your assertions in parentheses directly underneath each of your fallacious assertions:

(You said:)

“HERE’S SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT BLACK AFRICANS HAVE DONE : BLACK AFRICAN INVENTORS AND THEIR INVENTIONS” The type of Invention is capitalized (e.g. TRAFFIC SIGNAL, MOTOR, etc..) Here are some major Black Africans who have had an impact on the world With their initiative These are INVENTORS . This Listing includes The Inventor’s Name, Their Invention and in some cases the date the invention was recognized and the invention’s U.S. patent number.

(Following this, you began with the following "examples" to prove your hypothesis:)

- Sarah Boone - IRONING BOARD - April 26, 1892

(Ironing Board - On 16 February 1858 W. Vandenburg and J. Harvey patented an ironing table that made pressing sleeves and pant legs easier.[4] A truly portable folding ironing board was first patented in Canada in 1875 by John B. Porter of Yarmouth, Nova Scotia. The invention also included a removable press board used for sleeves.)

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironing_board

Ms. Boone actually “invented” an “improved” ironing board but did not, in fact, “invent” the ironing board:

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_American_inventors_and_scienti sts

• John A. Burr - LAWN MOWER

(The first lawn mower was invented by Edwin Budding in 1827 in Stroud, Gloucestershire. Budding's mower was designed primarily to cut the lawn on sports grounds and expensive gardens as a superior alternative to the scythe and was patented in 1830.)

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawn_mower

Mr. Burr did actually receive a patent for a “rotary” lawn mower, but did NOT “invent” the lawn mower.

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_American_inventors_and_scienti sts

• Marie V. Brittan Brown - HOME SECURITY SYSTEM - Dec 2, 1969

Ms. Brown actually invented the VIDEO home security system, NOT the HOME SECURITY SYSTEM.

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_American_inventors_and_scienti sts

• Buridge & Marshman – TYPEWRITER

(Per Wikipedia: “No single person invented the typewriter. As with the automobile, telephone, and telegraph, a number of people contributed insights and inventions that eventually resulted in commercially successful instruments. In fact, historians have estimated that some form of typewriter was invented 52 times as tinkerers tried to come up with a workable design.[1]

In 1714, Henry Mill obtained a patent in Britain for a machine that, from the patent, appears to have been similar to a typewriter, but nothing further is known.Other early developers of typewriting machines include Pellegrino Turri, who also invented carbon paper. Many of these early machines, including Turri's, were developed to enable the blind to write.)

- A Black guy (Burridge or Marshman) might’ve designed a “better” typewriter, but they definitely did NOT “invent” the typewriter.

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typewriter

• George Carruthers - X-RAY MACHINE

(Shay M. Anderson and Ryan W. Preuninger formulated mathematical equations for X-rays. Physicist Johann Hittorf observed tubes with energy rays extending from a negative electrode. William Crookes investigated the effects of energy discharges on rare gases. Heinrich Hertz began experimenting and demonstrated that cathode rays could penetrate very thin metal foil (such as aluminium). In 1887, Nikola Tesla began to investigate X-rays and produced the bremsstrahlung process. In 1895, Wilhelm Röntgen began observing and further documenting X-rays while experimenting with vacuum tubes.

One of the first X-ray photographs was made of the hand of Röntgen's wife. The image displayed both her wedding ring and bones. as the new scientific wonder and seized upon by entertainers. Circus patrons viewed their own skeletons and were given pictures of their own bony hands wearing silhouetted jewelry.)

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray_machine

Again, Mr. Carruthers may actually have designed a “better” x-ray machine, but it is dishonest to suggest he “invented” the x-ray machine.

• George Washington Carver - PEANUT BUTTER - PAINTS – PAINT STAINS – ETC

NO ONE should ever question the genius of George Washington Carver! (my words)

• John Clark - TRACK ATHLETE TRAINER

(Who? If you’re going to mention athlete’s, then why not Michael Jordan? Why not Pele? Why not Tiger Woods? What about Jackie Robinson or Jesse Owens? And who the hell is John Clark? Is he a footballer?)

• W.A. Dietz – SHOE

(The earliest known shoes date from about 8000 to 7000 BCE and were found in Oregon, USA in 1938.[1] However, the materials used for making shoes (typically tanned leather) do not normally last for thousands of years, so shoes were probably in use long before this. Physical anthropologist Erik Trinkaus believes he has found evidence that the use of shoes began in the period between about 40,000 and 26,000 years ago……)

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe

Again, Mr. Dietz may have designed a “better” shoe, but come on! You really expect us to believe this guy “invented” SHOES?

• Joseph Dickinson - PLAYER PIANO - ARM FOR RECORD PLAYER

Who? The explanation it too long to paste, but there's no mention of Mr. Dickinson, here’s the link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_piano

• P.B. Downing - POSTAL LETTER BOX

(you’re f*&%’in kidding me, right? – Someone “invented” the mailbox? Hooray!)

• Charles R. Drew - BLOOD PLASMA STORAGE SYSTEM

(Another brilliant mind, but was born & raised in the U.S.!)

• T. Elkins - TOILET (COMMODE)

Another great example! I don’t think there was anyone named ELKINS alive when the toilet was “invented”), too long an explanation, except there’s no mention of any Black “ELKINS” in India in this time period!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet

• Robert Flemming Jr. – GUITAR

DUDE! The Guitar is a 2,000 year-old instrument! How many Black men lived in Greece 2000 years ago!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar

• Cathleen McCoy Garrett SIREN - HORN LIGHT INDICATOR

I won’t even bother explaining why you are wrong, simply because the next one is a perfect example of your dishonest posts!

• George F. Grant - GOLF TEE

(Let me ask you one question on this one? How many Black guys were in Scotland in the 19th century? Mr. Grant clearly did not “invent” the Tee……. He received a patent for a design that was never actually manufactured.

“In 1899, an African-American dentist, Dr. George Franklin Grant obtaned a patent for an "improved golf tee".[3] This tee consisted of a wood cone with a rubber sleeve to support the ball, but it is not known to have ever been marketed.”)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf_tee

I was going to look at more of your “examples” of great African “inventors” (and I did!), but your “interpretation” of what an “invention” actually IS, is somewhat suspect. Most of these “great innovators” were just adding improvements to devices or concepts that pre-existed their work – THAT IS NOT AN INVENTION!

That’s sort of like me asking what white people (the West) have done with things we actually KNOW black people invented – like fire! Scientists generally agree that mankind originated in Africa (so can we ALL agree that fire is an African “invention?) I mean, who didn’t see “Quest for Fire”?), they probably figured out fire before many of them left for better locations and turned into white people.

Or maybe……….. It’s like asking what Robert Mugabe and his ZANU-PF henchmen have done with Zimbabwe since they inherited it from the racist regime of Ian Smith! Most of the people you mentioned in your encyclopedic diarrhea merely improved on something “invented” by others who happen NOT to be Black! Has Robert Mugabe actually "improved" anything that the racist white man Ian Smith "invented" in ZImbabwe? Maybe the CIO or the Green Bombers.......

Anyway, my original intent was to just tell you to STFU, I knew your “cut-&-paste” posts were factually incorrect, but I wanted others here to know it and to be able to fact-check it themselves so you couldn’t accuse me of lying.

So from now on, STOP with the intellectually dishonest claims that Black people invented THIS or THAT! Besides, I’m not claiming white people are better either, most important stuff was invented by the Chinese 2000 years ago anyway, everything else has just been an evolutionary improvement cycle over something the Chinese “invented” anyway!

Anyway,, if you have anything constructive to the conversation on these boards, then feel free to post them. But don't give us a cut-&-paste serving of sh*te that can't even hold up to a minimum fact-check. You got something to say - say it - just don't post lies, exaggerations and fabrications as some retarded bibliography for your incoherent rantings..........

By the way, I think white people (the West) have done pretty good with fire since it was “invented” by Africans………. What do you think?

Oh my God! I think I’m turning into J-hollow!

“Total Empowerment!”

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Thu Jul 2 16:50:18 2009

Maybe black africans invented the bagpipes as well. Makabusi Bushland games anyone? What did black africans do to open parliament, Walk past by shangaan dancers, fly pasts by vultures, cavalry charges on Zebras. Massed bands of marimbas and mbiras, 21 assagai salutes. Now Black Bob could knock on the hut wall with his knobkerrie. Insukumeni by the forward step quick walk.

Author: kjrs120
Fri Jul 3 22:22:57 2009

Zola which Black Bob? Yes I know. It's the one who has crapped all over the people of Zimbabwe. He would never dream of doing anything traditional for such an occasion because he simply LOVES the ceremonial and western way of living. I suppose I should not flack him too much as he still throws in the law of the jungle so he is not too far removed from those vultures and those knobkerries which he uses to torture and kill Zimbabweans with.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Sat Jul 4 09:40:52 2009

Kjrs, Black Bob being the name of the guy who knocks on the door of parliament, but can be translated as Mugabe. By the way , did you hear about the two muslims who crashed their powerboat into the Kariba Dam wall. The Zimbabwe republic Police think it's the start of Ram-a-dam.

Author: kjrs120
Sun Jul 5 04:00:50 2009

Zola you are just too much! Ha ha ha ha ha cough! cough! Keep them coming.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Wed Jul 8 21:25:29 2009

Kjrs, Mugabe is so racist that whilst at the UN he did not like eggs being thrown at him in New York. He was totally disgusted that the Americans didn't seperate the whites first. Ha ha ha ha ha .




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