Author: TD
Wed Jul 1 09:47:21 2009

You are right, anybody caught on the wrong side of the law abusing the inputs should just be thrown into prison and the onus is on them to prove their innocence instead of wasting state resources proving some of these criminals guilty. It should start with multiple farm owners and for this to work, all political parties should allow the police and judiciary to do their jobs unhindered.

Author: takunya_ndebvu
Wed Jul 1 14:28:53 2009

We are here talking about newly resettled, black A1, A2 and large scale commercial farmers who have now, against all odds, produced more than 100% of last season's produce. This is a remarkable improvement, (considering the fact that we are under sanctions) which can ONLY be attributed to the Zanu-pf government's policy of mechanizing farmers and providing them with inputs - seed, fertilizer and chemicals.

In particular, credit should go to Dr Gono for a job well done, for a well focused policy and for recognizing that “extraordinary situations require extraordinary measures”. When he started the policy of assisting farmers most skeptics thought it was not going to work - it has worked and worked wonders. While there are some farmers who may have misused inputs, overall it can be said that many or the majority have used the provided inputs for the purpose for which they had been given in the first place.

This achievement should, therefore, silence those criminals who were calling for Dr Gono’s head. People like Dr Gono should, of necessity, remain in their positions as they have served the nation well and every Zimbabwean should support him including those who previously, because of ignorance, called for his assassination - "Al Qaeda No1, who should be put before a firing squad".

Author: awt_independent
Wed Jul 1 15:19:38 2009

Tacky, you conveniently forget that he has admitted to stealing money out of private accounts and out of aid agency accounts, as well as being responsible for the extinction of the zimbabwean currency. The man is a thief.

Author: katz
Thu Jul 2 01:11:59 2009

Cde Ndebvu - typical of you, you have yet again read only parts of the article and made it try to fit your misguided perception of reality.

Point 1: "Better rainfall was important, but the UN experts believe the changes, and especially the liberalisation of the maize market, backed by a GMB floor price, were more crucial." - the unrealistic pricing and distortion of the market in the past (products of the zanu-pf government) have been remedied (product of the GNU) and voila! You cannot praise zanu-pf for removing its idiotic policies of the past.

Point 2: "Hyperinflation destroyed the bulk of the national savings and most farmers now find it hard to raise the money they need to buy all the seed, fertilizer and chemicals they need, and certainly what they need to expand production." And you want to praise Gono, the architect of that hyperinflation? Please!!

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Thu Jul 2 09:19:17 2009

Takunya has always heaped praise on his fellow terrorists for the real work which has been achieved by the MDC side of the GNU. Just like I said two months back. Mugabe will be happy to have the MDC do the work while ZanuPoof takes the credit. I will say good on the farmers but there would of been more food if the real farmers ( bought their farms off the government after 1980 with Mugabe's blessing) had of been allowed to farm the land.

Author: takunya_ndebvu
Thu Jul 2 10:05:20 2009

Zungairwa;

You did not buy the estate (farms) you were under utilizing. You got those farms, first and foremost, because you are white and secondly, as a reward for being a mercenary during the war of liberation when you massacred and maimed innocent black Zimbabweans in an effort to protect the illegal, illegitimate and corrupt regime of racist Ian Douglas Smith.

You should therefore NEVER talk of buying any land after 1980 because you NEVER did that. How could you buy something that you already had; given to you because of the color of your skin?

Author: awt_independent
Thu Jul 2 10:14:12 2009

Tacky, your attempts to discredit your opposition are just that, tacky. Anyone with a reading age above 3 can simply tell that you are lying. Apprently I work for the CIA, apparently I massacred Maoris, apprently I massacred Zimbabweans.... why do you make up such blatant lies that simply make you look silly?

Author: takunya_ndebvu
Thu Jul 2 11:12:15 2009

Awt;

The only way out is to own up and repent. If you are remorseful God will forgive you but if you continue in that path you will reap what you sow - your choice and food for thought.

When you continued from where your forefathers left by exterminating the Maori people and made them a minority in their own country of birth you never thought that it would backfire. Apparently, as you said, there is no Maori to talk about in New Zealand today the "last pure blooded Maori" having been killed by your forefathers in 1905.

When you allowed yourself to be blackmailed, thus, work for the CIA you never thought it would backfire. It is up to you to realize that it is NEVER good and Godly to kill human beings be it directly by firing a gun at them or through sanctions, Aids, Syphilis, Agent Orange, Dioxin and the entire virus family being humanly generated in CIA labs – bird flue, pig flue and what have you.

The Maori people that you exterminated are now turning in their graves demanding justice. Zimbabweans who have died in the past 10 years because of the sanctions you called for and the cholera you spread are now turning in their graves demanding that justice, not only be done but be seen to be done. Your choice!!!

Author: awt_independent
Thu Jul 2 11:37:06 2009

Tacky,

Again you continue to show us how warped and uneducated your mind has become.

Maori's were never exterminated in New Zealand, I have ancestors who are Maori and I have ancestors who are European. It is true the last pure blooded Maori died of natural causes in 1905, so to pretend this person was murdered is simply more lies to add to your long list.

Maori's became a minority purely through colonisation... there were only 200,000 Maori's in New Zealand in 1840 when colonisation began, and by 1900, the population was over 1 million.

Your continued attempts to discredit myself and others is childish and done purely because you have no factual logical argument to back up your nonsense that you continually spout.

So I was blackmailed to working for the CIA? Who comes up with this nonsense!

And now ALL viruses were created by the CIA? What nonsense. Lets look at these individuatlly.

1) Syphilis. Tell me why there are reports of Syphilis back in the 1600's then, before the CIA existed? How can the CIA be responsible for inventing somethng that was discovered before it was around?

2) Dioxon. Do you even konw what Dioxon's are? The can even come from volcanoes and forest fires, so clearly have been around for many many years before the CIA.

3) Agent Orange. Discoverd in 1946 by Arthur Galston, a year before the CIA was established in 1947. Again, couldnt have been the CIA.

4) Bird / Pig Flu - you have provided no link between the CIA and Bird / Pig Flu.

Clearly you have again been shown to be uneducated and simply grasping at straws.

Why dont you try and develop some arguments around the topics and the back these arguments up with some logic and facts instead of your usual lies?

Still think the CIA invented homosexuality?

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Thu Jul 2 16:57:09 2009

You've obviously been to the witchdoctor for your muti again. Tokolosh go back to your den and only come out at night time when you're meant to.Idiot.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Thu Jul 2 16:54:17 2009

Awt, thats why I'm not going to reply to the idiots assumptions because of all the lies tht come out of him. I've lost track to what number of lies he has told. He's just a deluded idiotic moron.

Author: takunya_ndebvu
Thu Jul 2 10:40:22 2009

Cat;

Point 1: "liberalization of the maize market" does not grow crops – people do. You can have the best environment but as long as farmers do not have the necessary inputs and required mechanization, they will NEVER be able to produce. That is where Dr Gono and the Zanu-pf government come in.

Where your mind and thinking capacity ends is where Dr Gono's begins. He saw the future far beyond where you could see as exemplified by your criticism of his policies. Today the Dr has been vindicated!!!

Point 2: "Hyperinflation" was caused by the illegal, racist, diabolic and barbaric sanctions imposed on Zimbabwe by the white regimes in Europe and America. Agribank (The Agricultural Bank) that should have been assisting farmers with the necessary tools to effectively work the land is unable to do so because it is on the racist imperialist sanctions list of the corrupt Anglo-Saxons.

Knowing as the former colonizers did that our economy is intricately tied to theirs because of colonialism and slavery, they just turned off the tape and production plummeted - Hence, our noble ‘Look East Policy’.

Thus, because of the ingenuity of people like Dr Gono and the Zanu-pf government we did not go down on our knees but only staggered. Now that we have turned a corner you want it to look like it was your effort which brought about this positive development. NO IT CAN NEVER BE!!

Despite the hardships we faced, we persistently persevered and have now produced 100% of last season's production and we intend, with or without assistance from racist imperialists, to be able to surpass our national needs in the next season and be able to export.

Author: katz
Thu Jul 2 11:50:51 2009

Cde Ndebvu -

Point 1 - the people who grow the crops need (a) to be paid a price that makes it worth their while and (b) to actually receive the proceeds of their sale. Zanu-pf firstly attempted to impose mandatory sales to the GMB at prices well below the cost of production and delivery and secondly failed to pay the entire proceeds at all, or at least until such time as infaltion had rendered the balance meaningless. (Why do think it was easy for unlicenced dealers to enter this market space?)This is precisely the liberalisation of policies that the UN is referring to ie the doing away of these idiotic policies.

Point 2 - No one, other than Mugabe, forced the Reserve Bank to print an endless supply of Zimbabwe dollars. Countries under attack, such as Rhodesia during the Second Chimurenga, learn to 'cut their cloth' to suit their circumstances. Mugabe and Gono chose to enrich an elite minority at the expense of the majority.

I suggest that you read the opinion in today's Herald. You might actually learn something (if you are capable of learning anything at all, that is).

Author: kjrs120
Thu Jul 2 21:31:59 2009

Takunya there is nothing praise-worthy about stolen goods. Little do those farmers know that whatever seed, fertilizer and all the way down to farming equipment, as it has already been said, were all goods and money swiped by Gono the thief. Can Mugabe and his twits ever do something that is not shady? If Zimbabwe has a bumper maize yield, It shows that it CAN be done but this stealing business by GONO is shameful and criminal.

Author: takunya_ndebvu
Fri Jul 3 17:02:47 2009

Cat;

For a farmer to sale he needs to first of all grow, for him to grow he needs to have the necessary tools to enable him to work the land and this is what the Zanu-pf Government, President Mugabe and Dr Gono did by mechanizing farmers and providing them with inputs.

"Liberalization" only comes after production if we go by your argument. Our season starts around October/November while the so-called liberalization you are attributing to the GNU came into effect at harvest time.

We are therefore talking about farmers who have produced more than 100% of last season's crop and not the selling phase. What is happening is what I call "Mucheka dzafa" (Skinning an animal killed by someone else).

Sanctions, and nothing else, forced us to print the Zim Dollar so that we could survive - "extraordinary situations require extraordinary measures". When Tsvangirai, Biti, you and all those in MDC called for sanctions you wanted the economy to collapse.

If you had succeeded in collapsing and destroying our economy, people would have revolted against the government thereby unwittingly helping you in your regime change agenda. It did not collapse precisely because of Dr Gono’s creativity.

MDC is now ‘vana muchekadzafa’ of the efforts by patriotic and loyal cadres like Dr Gono.

- USD400 Million from AfDB was negotiated by Dr Gono. - STERP was written by Dr Gono. - Funds given by SADC and the inputs they gave to us last season were negotiated by the Zanu-pf government - USD950 Million from China was negotiated by Zanu-pf.

So what has MDC done to warrant any praise at all. NOTHING!! Tsvangirai went to Europe and America and all he came back with were his dirty empty hands - no money, sanctions not lifted and he was even booed by the same people he helped go to Britain on false charges of persecution.

Remember some, if not all, of these thugs were given letters at Harvest House to take to the British High Commission in Harare to prove that they were genuine MDC members and supporters. LOSERS THROUGH AND THROUGH!!!

Author: katz
Sat Jul 4 05:41:05 2009

Cde Ndebvu - you say:

"For a farmer to sale he needs to first of all grow, for him to grow he needs to have the necessary tools to enable him to work the land and this is what the Zanu-pf Government, President Mugabe and Dr Gono did by mechanizing farmers and providing them with inputs" - TEN YEARS after the land redistribution began and after the virtual collapse of commercial agriculture, your boys wake up to this fact!! Not the sharpest tools in the tool box are they?.

""Liberalization" only comes after production if we go by your argument. Our season starts around October/November while the so-called liberalization you are attributing to the GNU came into effect at harvest time." - agriculture is a long term planned process. What the government did last year affects this year. For you to try and suggest that production is unassociated with sales is facile.

"We are therefore talking about farmers who have produced more than 100% of last season's crop"- remind me, wasn't last year the Mother of All Seasons? Any idea of how the wheat, citrus, horticultural crops are going this year. My advice is you need to put things in context.

"Sanctions, and nothing else, forced us to print the Zim Dollar so that we could survive - "extraordinary situations require extraordinary measures"" - do extraordinary measures include destroying the national currency and with it the savings of an entire people (excluding of course the chefs with their forex accounts)? Your vaunted solution is akin to the Jonestown solution. And all this was only because Mugabe felt that he has a God given right to govern and that other Zimbabweans do not.

"If you had succeeded in collapsing and destroying our economy, people would have revolted against the government thereby unwittingly helping you in your regime change agenda. It did not collapse precisely because of Dr Gono’s creativity." - what is your definition of collapse? If you mean that an entire year of school (if not two-three years) have been denied to the children, if you mean that public hospitals no longer provide even basic health care, if you mean that 4000 people die from preventable diseases such as cholera, if you mean that the life expectancy of Zimbabweans is now less than it was in the 1950's, if you mean that the entire revenue collection of the State is less than a quarter of he civil service payroll, if you mean that an entire generation of Zimbabwe's best and brightest either cannot get a university education or have gone elsewhere for work, etc etc- then yes; Zimbabwe's economy did collapse.

"USD400 Million from AfDB was negotiated by Dr Gono. - STERP was written by Dr Gono. - Funds given by SADC and the inputs they gave to us last season were negotiated by the Zanu-pf government - USD950 Million from China was negotiated by Zanu-pf." - you believe this to be so, but you have no proof of this whatsover. Tell me why did the Chinese government or Mugabe let Biti take the credit for this, if this were so? Obviously, even Mugabe and the Herald don't believe this.

"So what has MDC done to warrant any praise at all." Basically they have rescued the country.

Author: kjrs120
Sun Jul 5 21:59:17 2009

Katz, what a well structured, true and to the point post that I wish ALL Zimbabweans could read. The likes of takunya remain obstinate because they have their own agenda of personal gains through the status quo of Mugabe's corruption.

Author: zola zazu zambezi zulu
Sat Jul 4 17:13:39 2009

Tokolosh, you can only grow more because you use my brothers tractor to plough you fields. Have you paid my brother for the use of his tractor and diesel yet. No i thought not, Bloody thief.

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