SW Radio Africa (London)
3 July 2009
African leaders in Libya were on Friday hotly debating a draft resolution by the African Union (AU) which will, if adopted, deal a major blow to the efforts of the International Criminal Court (ICC) to prosecute war criminals in Africa.
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Phiri I agree with you on the indictment of Bush, he is a candidate for the ICC and is no longer a sitting president, so it should be a lot easier to arrest him for the millions of innocent people butchered in Iraq, and you mentioned another culprit who is no longer a sitting head of State, that Blair. There is evidence they lied to the international community about weapons of mass destruction and even acted against the UN. Obama is doing the same and he should know he is another candidate for ICC. So if it wants credibility back, they should move in and try Bush and Blair, then the rest of the internaional community will respect them and see that they are not trying to police the east and the south.
TD.
A couple of points. Bush did not kill millions in Iraq. The great majority of deaths was as a result of sectarian violence and suicide killings by al-qaeda. You seem to keep pretty quiet about these. ARe you Al-Qaeda? For the record, it was Bush who was trying to prevent these deaths by keeping his troops there.
Secondly, Obama has actually been withdrawing the troops from Iraq, if you hadnt noticed.
I suggest you begin to educate yourself before making such rediculous points.
Are you not embarassed to defend Bush for lying to the whole world, went against UN resolutions and used bombs to kill innocent people. You will do anything to defend these Western leaders for the atrocities, even if its a shame. Bush, Blair and of late Obama are prime candidates for the ICC in addition to some of the African leaders but do not expose you bias by defending these war mongers.
I'm not defending Bush's actions in iraq, but you grossly over exagerate them by stating that Bush is responsible for over a million deaths.... are you Al Qaeda? You didnt answer my question. You seem to not be concerned by the innocents murdered by these cowards, when al qaeda is by far the most responsible for the deaths of innocents in Iraq.
As for Obama.. he's actually taken the troops out of Iraq! Idiot!
Awt, that is your problem if you do not have facts, you resort to name calling. Your statistics are very wrong, Bush killed much more people in Iraq than AlQEDA or whatever you call it. I want to you to say it that Bush killed innocent people. If you wake up and smell the coffee, you will see that Obama is taking more troops to Afghanistan and on a number of occasions, innocent people have been killed in Pakistan and Afghanistan and it is on such basis that i demand that Bush and Blair be indicted, you can name other African leaders since you are biassed, but you also have to condemn these western leaders ... which obviously you can't, what a shame for people who purpot to be holier than thou as far as democracy is concerned.
TD, it would serve you well at times to stop and think what others are saying about different situations not only about your country but about other stuff going on in other parts of the world. How many times must Awt keep telling you about the role of al - Quaeda in the deaths of Iraqis? Al-Qaeda are today's extreme terrorists that know no boundaries and will kill anyone, their motto being that the killing of bystanders and civilians is religiously justified in jihad which is religious duty of Muslims or holly war. Today, jihad is the world's foremost source of terrorism inspiring a worldwide campaign of violence and killings by self-proclaimed jihadist groups. Good examples of what they are capable of are the killings of thousands of Iraqis, bombings in England and elsewhere, the USA 9-11 attack which killed not only Americans but many persons of different nationalities including Zimbabwean, the bombing in Kenya which took the lives and injured many Kenyans. In the Sudan it is a clear example of that where they have physically attacked non-Muslims, looted their belongings and killed their males.Sudan's state sponsored jihad has caused millions of deaths ad displaced millions more making it the greatest humanitarian catastrophe of our era. You should also take note and understand that the current war in Afghanistan is against al-Qaeda who are imposing upon and terrorizing and killing the people of Afghanistan and also causing untold deaths in Pakistan as well.
Kjrs, talking about muslims, did you hear that two muslims crashed their power boat into the Kariba dam wall? The Zimbabwe Republic Police think it's the start of Ram-a-dam. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Well said Kjrs. Well said.
To say Bush has killed more people in Iraq than Al-Qaeda is rediculous. You question my lack of facts, but do you have any to back your nonsense up? Even today there is a suicide bombing with 45 deaths. Do you want me to give you a list of all the suicide bombings in Iraq and around the world over the last 10 years attributed to Al-Qaeda.
And look at what is happening in Iraq now. the US moves out and it escalates. Bush did the right thing by leaving his troops there to prevent the escalation we see today.
I see you have no problem with the deaths of innocents at the hands of Al-Qaeda. Why is this?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8147383.stm. Awt and Ciomapny read this and you will see that some of these guys are not qualified to lecture Africa about democracy
Well I'm not surprised. Birds of a feather protect each other.
Africa always says that it wants equality in the world playing field, but when it comes to justice, that seems to be a different story. Why ? What is Africa trying to hide? Africa wants democracy but is not wanting to go by the rule of law, sorry the two go hand in hand.
The FAKE ZULU wraps himself in the flag of democratic ideology: rule of law and other enigmas of the bourgeois political imagination. But, that is theory.
Practically, the FAKE ZULU is the author of "AFRICA WILL GET NOWHERE WITHOUT THE STEADY HAND OF THE WHITE MAN."
Sadly, such a xenophobic view and its see through implications are clearly repudiated by the most enlightened denizens of INVADERDLANDS. Obviously, the FAKE ZULU doesn't know that: he is behind the eighth ball.
But, beyond this comical and looney FAKE ZULU, the ICC is a new tool in INVADERLANDS' tool kit of world hegemony. The obvious counter move is the establishment of an African Court of Justice with exclusive jurisdiction over problems of justice in Africa, and unlike the unelected, unaccountable judges of the ICC, the judges of the proposed court would be elected.
Dickinbuffalo, You sure seem to be taking the title of liar of the year from Takunya. He might get a bit upset with you for taking his title. Get back to your padded cell and get the little white men to put your straight jacket on for you nice and tight so you don't escape again. hee haw hee haw.
There goes DickinSon... again making up rediculous quotes and attributing them to other readers. Childish and pathetic really. All because he's soundly beaten on a continual basis in the true debates on this sight. Its rather funny actually.
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In other words, African leaders should be free to rape, murder, torture and create genocides in their own lands, and still have the right to trade freely with the world.
Either you are a part of the world, and its economies or you arent.
Awt, It's idiots like Muletick which gives Africa a bad name, then he wonders why the world won't help.
Alex Bell continues to write in her own anglo whiteness. However, the Libyan proposal is the right to one! Africa warned and told the ICC to postphoned thier indicating of Bashir, alas these non-elected judges at ICC decided to go ahead anyway because they are westerners! That decision to go ahead in indicatement was wrong and caused untold suffering and a pullout by aid organizations. I too am a strong defender of human rights, but the ICC has became a bully towards Africa.
Why not indicate George W. Bush, whose gov't caused the death of over a million people, most innocent. Now that we do know that Saddam did not have mass weapons of destruction, I challenge the ICC to bring former President Bush to court. That would set a better example. And how how about former British Prime Minister Blair? Another idiot, who lied to the UN about weapons of mass destruction. AU must look out for their own interests!!