The mistake that most fools make is to think that a constitution is drafted for one person or certain people. Leaders and governments come and go but the constitution has no limited life span. President Mugabe is the President today but tomorrow it will definitely be somebody else who will be captaining the ship called Zimbabwe.

How can a leader navigate without power to make decisions - which decisions will rest on his/her shoulders should anything go wrong? How can a Chief Executive Officer make a crucial decision without the necessary authority and power to do so? Why should we be bogged down by bureaucracy and red tape when an urgent decision, that entails life or death for the country, has to be made?

In any case the Kariba draft does not give the President absolute power as some stupid fools want us to believe. Power to govern still rests with the three pillars of government - Cabinet, Judiciary and the Legislature. I don't, therefore, see any problems with making the Kariba Draft a reference point. This does not mean that the Kariba Draft becomes the law but that we borrow from it because it was produced after a thorough job.

How can we throw all that effort, time and money down the toilet as if we do not care about the resources that went into coming up with that document? After all, the document was produced by the main political parties in the country, was agreed to and is signed, on all pages, by all the parties to those discussions.

What we should only entertain is input from any other parties that are interested. We should not follow or do what Madhuku and his cohorts want otherwise we will never move forward.

The problem of flip-flopping is again starting to surface in the MDC. They agreed to and signed this document but because one of their main constituencies (the so-called “strategic partners”) does not like the draft, they are starting to oppose it as if they do not even know anything about it.

We are back to square one where we have to tell them to be consistent and principled. They should learn to stand by the values of their party – but knowing them as we all do; they are just a bunch stooges and puppets who do not have any principles or values to talk about.

The mistake that most fools make is to think that the CIA invented homosexuality. How the hell did Takunya come up with that one? Clearly he is a fool in the strongest sense. The idiot posts lie after lie after lie on this site, and no doubt this post will contain lies too. So I wouldn’t bother reading it if I were you.

Cde Ndebvu - why do you object to the widest possible input to the drafting of a new constitution? The country can still be governed under the existing constitution whilst the new one is being drafted and agreed to. So your argument about the urgency of government business is facile. The question of cost is nothing more than the cost of the early election that Mugabe called in March 2008 and you didn't object to the cost then(although no doubt you regret the result). Furthermore,as you quite correctly point out there is a longevity to a nation's constitution which survives individual administrations; so it is not preferable to get the most universal consensus given the importance of this document? You are merely parroting the zanu-pf mantra on the new constitution without thinking through the issues. Zanu-pf is terrified that the exercise will unleash democratic forces which at the very least will make Mugabe accountable to the parliament and the people.

Its really sad for the people of Zim that their Dictator Mugabe and his PF cronies just cant let go of power - and just look at what they have done to their country and their people while having all that power. As for Mugabe letting the people of Zim have any effective say in the constition making process - well pigs might fly!

Criminal Mugabe just returned from Libya with advice from another mad criminal that he should hold on to power for life. that is why Mugabe is ordering his cronies to push for the postponement!

What a rotten Mugabe!

Takunya you could not have said a truer thing when you stated, "The mistake that most fools make is to think that a constitution is drafted for one person or people." In the 30 years of his presidency, how many times has Mugabe re carved, stretched, shortened, and re painted Zimbabwe's constitution at a whim to suit himself and those of you in Zanu-PF. You could have saved Zimbabwe all this trauma by pointing out to the fool as described in your own words about fools who aspire to that notion. Mugabe said he "owns Zimbabwe" which means constitution, lock stock and barrel. Fool.

Here here Kjrs I totally agree.

I sense that some on this blog think that constitutional talks will or should run smoothly. I beg to differ! In every country where the constitution has been debated for revisions tends to be a battle for different countries. People will fight for constitution changes. Zimbabwe's constitution battles are no different than from other countries.

In the USA, constitutional issues are debated almost everyday!! Depending whether you are a liberal or conservatives, constitution issues form your political basis for your party. The USA constitution is always being re-written whenever the USA Supreme court convenes between June - September. If there are fights, death, blooded noses, that is normal when people debate the constitition of one's country. Europe and the UK who settled there constititons a million years ago, typically are not good example to look up to. I suggest you follow the USA Supreme court under takings.

Phiri you are making up stuff when you say, "The USA constitution is always being re-written." Hogwash. Within the past 200 years, the USA constitution has only been AMENDED 27 times. The American constitution is often times called "a living document" because it is designed to live and grow as the nation grows. When you look at the amendments you realize they were done for the good of the people. The 19th Amendment for example and just to mention a few, gave the right for women to vote. The 15th gave all races the right to vote without discrimination after Lincoln's Emancipation proclamation. The 22nd Amendment limits a president's term of office to two terms and the 26th which was passed in 1971allowed people 18 years of age and above to vote instead of what was 21years. These amendments have all been good for the American nation and I am sure when Americans start living in space, amendments will be made to suit the people. Phiri , serious debates yes, but bloody noses that you speak about are likely to be seen in Zimbabwe and places like Korea. As for the British constitution being of no consequence to you - why am I not surprised.