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upliftda_race or whoever you are well we know who you are enough with your foolish mumblings we know who Mugabe and the Zanu-Pf are and how they have destroyed Zimbabwe. You as well as them are good at spreading your propaganda. Stop about God's blessings b/c God does not bless thieves and killers...

Euro35/Americ35. Shame on you!! You have no conscience just like your ruinous stooge morgen van tsvangsen. Your Western regimes who make noise about Zimbabwe's democracy, recently endorsed a despicable,fraudulent re-election of Afghanistan's Karzai because he's your willing stooge. We have said it before that the only thing your western imperialist regimes care about are their white racist interests,not democracy,human rights etc and they will create despotic puppets like the tsvangrais ,the Khazai's to protect those sinister racist capitalist interests.Americ35, the afghan fiasco has battered your already soiled credibility even more therefore stop your nonsense about democracy,human rights etc.

Another tsvangson climb down once more!!!Looks like a face saving gesture from the stooge-tsvangi.So what is he going to do after 30 days?Because our resolute Zanu pf will NEVER yield to any of his nonsensical demands.I bet he will be waiting for directions for his next move from his Western and Rhodesian handlers.Our revolutionary President R.G.Mugabe who is Head of state and gvt said that MDC-T will be back in gvt soon and that's exactly what happened.Zanu pf has fullfilled it's part of the GPA. Gono and Tomana were appointed legally and constitutionally and that's over and done with.The United States are the ones pushing for the removal of Gono because spearheaded the agricultural mechanisation programme and he prevented the collapse of the economy under economic sanctions & Western economic warfare against Zimbabwe .SADC should be applauded for refusing to be manipulated by the MDC-T and its Western controllers.Article 6 of the Troika Communique called for the immediate lifting of all forms of sanctions that tsvangirai invited to Zimbabwe.This means that Sadc reiterated that economic sanctions are the most serious outstanding issue in the GPA.

Many people now know that the Western sponsored MDC-T has its own GPA obligations it's refusing to honour like calling for an immidiate end to illegal economic sanctions and pirate radio stations therefore western propaganda strategy of pilling all the blame on our revolutionary Zanu pf no longer works..Morgen van tsvangsen, a coward who ran away from a liberation war camp, is the most disastrous thing to ever happen to Zimbabwe.Tsvangirai a dictator who split the mdc into 2 factions single handedly due to his despotic tendencies.,he also created a brutal militia called the "democratic resistance committe" that terrorised,robbed, torchered and murdered people in Highfields,Glen Norah, Budiriro ,Mufakose and other surburbs in Harare bettween 2007 and 2008.That militia, alongside selous scouts remanants also unleashed an orgy of violence in the run up to the June 27 runnoff election last year.

A false tsvangson image (of human rights, democracy) crafted by years of western propaganda thsi time around has been battered beyond repair.His illadvised 'disengagement' has exposed him in Africa as a sellout who is fighting for the interests of Rhodesians,white farmers and Westerners, a confused sellout who routinely shifts goalposts contradicts himself on a regular basis, a western puppet who is used by western imperialists to destabilise the political and economic situation of his own country.A selfish,insensitive puppet who's willng to sacrifice 13 million black people's lives for the sake of a Rhodesian selous scout- Roy Bennet.,who fought hard to prevent the black majority rule,democracy and independence of Zimbabwe.

there is no democracy in Zimbabwe it is run by Mugabe and the Zanu-Pf so if you have trouble understanding democracy just b/c the zanu-pf agree on it that does not make it a democracy but it is up too all of the people in Zimbabwe.

Considering that the Zimbabwean 'ship of state' was bent on sailing without those treasonous traitors of the MDC (Mentally Deluded by Colonialists, the rudderless ones are quickly hopping aboard.

After all, the self-hating traitors can't heed the devils of europe and do 'regime change' from the outside. lol

The european mental enslavers wanted to have the criminal colonialist, bennett, as the conduit and manager for the '30 pieces of european silver'.

However, Zim Patriots will have none of it. That bastard belongs in confinement, if not to be permanently 'put out of business'.

I am extremely surprised that even after 9 months in government this slow learner does not seem to want to learn. He must, by now, know that the people of Zimbabwe in general and Zanu-pf in particular do not operation on the basis of threats or deadlines.

Zanu-pf is a revolutionary party that was born out of the struggle to free our land from invaders. Zanu-pf is, thus, immune to threats or deadlines - they will come and pass. The sellout party and its leader can re-suspend their suspension of disengagement, even before the lapse of 30 days, nothing will change.

The issues that MDC say are outstanding are not GPA issues. Nowhere in the GPA will one find the name Gono or Tomana or lately Charamba so how can these gentlemen suddenly become GPA issues? Ooh ok I see now; the CIA and MI6 do not want the two gentlemen because they defeated the regime change agenda. Now Zimbabwe is determined to have Gono and Tomana until their terms of office expire since they were appointment in accordance with the laws of Zimbabwe.

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takunya, your couuntry's power shortages have left your brain on permanent dim switch mode. As the SADC troika have made it perfectly clear that the communique is part of the GPA, presently to whom do you think the mentioned "Reserve Bank governor," the "Attorney General" and "Provincial Governors" are in reference to?

Takunya it is not up to Mugabe and the Zanu-Pf to agree to this b/c under the GPA agreement which mugabe signed to start with forces him to live by what it says whether you and other Zanu-pf cronies like it or not. You must learn Mugabe and the Zanu-Pf does not have the power to do that and if the SADC leaders were true leaders they would stand up to Mugabe so we will see what happens next. Mugabe and the Zanu-pf want to be dictators but call their country a democratic country which does not work. s far as the Zimbabweans in general they very much disagree with your biased opinon and Mugabe and his Zanu-Pf cronies keep then scared so they do not say anything.

takkiies comments need to be read in the context that he also believes the cIA invented homosexuality and that the MDC murdered 130 of their own supporters during the elections last year to make the ZANU PF look bad.

Right on, my brother. How dare the sellout give altimatum. Since when does a Tail begins to wag the Dog? Ich Bin Ein Zimbabwean.

So Harapak, the tail wags the dog eh, ok ok so you are saying that Zanupoof is the tail and the MDC is the dog. When the dog chases the tail, guess what, the dog bites the tail . So you want to be bitten. ok here it comes. Bloody fool.

Omugabe well again we hear your biased comments so keep them to yourself and your Zanu-pf buddies b/c the West has done nothing or it would have already been done and over with. I agree with Tsvangirai give Mugabe 30 days and after that pull out and stay strong and tell the SADC also no more talking b/c mugabe has just told one lie after another..

Omugabe, you are just kidding yourself. With its torn and tattered masts, your "ship of state" is "sailing" nowhere. It is already sinking right at your shore.

Now PM Tsvangirai is talking through the side of his neck. 30days? Like a teacher telling an errant schoolboy to hand in his homework in two days - or else! He should know by now that President Mugabe is not someone who scares easily and gives in to empty threats. I suspect that outside/Western backers and advisers who know nothing off Africa, and are unfamiliar with the African psyche "advised" PM Tsvangirai on such an idiotic move.

So if Mugabe doesn't do what Tsvangirai wants... is Tsvangirai going to throw another temper tantrum?

D_bokk, you are just as foolish as these people who are only thinking on political lines and not on the seriousness of what happens to Zimbabwe if the unity governance is not implemented. Morgan Tsvangirai can only go so far with frustration and if Mugabe does not cooperate, then that will be the end of what seemed a great solution to Zimbabwe's woes. Zimbabwe tottered at the brink of collapse long before sanctions were placed on Mugabe, so what do you think will happen now with sanctions riding his ass and having no representation at the IMF enabling Zimbabwe to get loans or borrow from other international lenders. Without MDC involvement in the Zimbabwean government, the country will certainly die because we have seen what they have achieved in the short time of their involvement, with the economy starting to look up and people having food on their store shelves once more. This is the time that all Zimbabweans should be on their knees praying for a quick and sound solution. Shaking out the maggots from what is left of Mugabe's brains wouldn't hurt either.

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Zola,

Tsvangirai is a man-child with delusions of glory. If he will be remembered as anything, it will be as a man of indecision and weakness. It's no wonder that the opposition is out-maneuvered at every turn, the best leader they could come up with was this man.

The best man , Bob, if he's the best man then why's he so hated. Idiot.

The only people on this site who hate him are the ass-clowns, and who cares what they think?

d-bokk, that is the whole problem - who cares? With that remark, now I certainly know what you are all about and now I see the reason you oppose everything I say. Carry on.

I figured kjrs would defend the people bragging about hatred.

d_ bokk you are now being just a stupid arse twisting things around, Childish.

Well, then what are you trying to say? That that people who posses hatred should be taken seriously?

It looks like that while you were twisting my words around, you ended up getting it thrown back in your face. And now baby kjrs got upset and is resorting to more insults.

Water-Bokk, let me tell you one thing KJRS120, does not brag about Mugabe ever. so stick it up you backside.

How are those literacy classes coming along, Zola?

Much better than your post-natal classes thankyou verymuch.

Do you ever get tired of not making any sense?

It must have something to do with the demonic presence you bring onto the forum.

That's your excuse? Pretty lame, even for the likes of you.

Ok reed-bokk, so we are ass clowns, that just shows that the majority of zimbabweans are assclowns. Just get out of the way of progress, the new Zimbabwe doesn't need assholes like your self in it.

Zola thanks. This d-bokk is just needling you because he is an arsehole and nothing else. He has also called me names like "baby" and "illiterate" which don't even phase me. Earlier this week I laughed my... a...er..head off because no sooner did he call me 'illiterate", he proved how illiterate HE was when he went on all about how the British recently "recolonized" the Turks and Caicos Islands and why the USA did not follow the "Monroe Doctrine" to involve themselves in that situation. Well Duh! This stupid fellow did not know that these islands were once a dependency of Jamaica but when it became independent in 1962, these islands became British Overseas territory and NEVER independent. So how could the British "recolonize" them when they were never independent in the first place. The population there speaks a Turks Caicos Island dialect but all have British citizenship status and one of the people that I know who has a holiday home there says they hope to gain independence before 2011. The British had to assign a governor to sort out the mess that this fellow Galmo Williams the premier, was causing through corruption of stuffing his own pockets with the sales of Crown land. This d-bokk bozo calls himself an American and yet he doesn't even know that the "Monroe Document" served to inform the European powers of the old world that America was no longer open to European colonization. This doctrine was really a warning for the Europeans to leave America for the Americans and not meant for America to be police for everyone, and you know, it met with great approval by the British. If this fool is really an American, then I suggest he goes back to the citizenship offices from whence he got his American naturalization certificate, get some booklets and learn a little about America because if it smells like a Mugabe stooge, writes like a Mugabe stooge and reasons with its part of the body that is uppermost whilst its head-is-in- the-sand Mugabe stooge, then it IS a Mugabe stooge and what an illiterate one at that.

My pleasure Kjrs, idiots like spring-bokk are about to be mauled by the lions, should be an interesting documentry. Must let David Attenborough look into this.

Well isn't it just nice that you two girls have eachother's shoulders to cry on.

By the way, the Monroe Doctrine was meant to stop Europeans from mucking up our hemisphere like you did to the rest of the world. It wasn't meant for us to be the interventionist, it was meant to prevent Europe's obsession with intervention. My family came from Scandinavia three generations ago, I have no loyalty to the crown like you British descendants which is why I have no problem bad-mouthing these good-for-nothing crumpet-eaters. Of course, you clowns would come up with some pathetic conspiracy theory to comfort yourself into thinking you're right.

So if your great grand parents are from scandanavia, then butt your nose out of zimbabwe's bussiness, because it is not wanted and let us africans sort the problem out. Go and play with your reindeer. Bloody scandanavian colonial.

I couldn't agree more, America shouldn't have ANYTHING to do with Zimbabwe. We should remove the sanctions defined by the Zimbabwe Democracy and Economic Recovery Act (2001) because the United States has no right to, as you say, "butt their nose in Africa's business." Heck, for that matter the EU should butt their nose out too and remove their sanctions as well. Thank you, Zola, I'm glad you and I finally see eye to eye.

Did i say for the americans to butt their noses out, no, it was the scandanavian colonials. So how is that seeing eye to eye.

I am an American, fool.

Oh , now the idiot thinks he's Mr T.

Zola, I do not pity you for being a fool. When you try to make a cultural reference, at least have it make sense, dimwit.

d-bokk only a demasculated man can see femininity in comradeship between gentlemen. So stuff you stupid idiot. I am glad to see you parroting what I told you about the Monroe Document and I hope you have understood about the Turks Caicos islands as well. Still, my advice to you is that you need to get those booklets from immigration and learn more about the USA. For your information, I applaud the USA for sticking those sanctions on Mugabe and his gang of thieves and I hope they continue until he implements the GPA so that Zimbabweans can get on with their lives with a government of unity. I love my life and all the freedoms my country affords me, so why should I not want the same for Zimbabweans. The road to that progress is being deliberately hampered by Mugabe because he knows among other things that a unity government will mean strict control of Zimbabwe's coffers curtailing his long thieving fingers, there will be an efficient land audit and he will be discovered as "an enemy of Zimbabwe" for owning all those farms.

I didn't know two like-minded losers on the Internet could be "comrades." I'm pretty sure it takes a little more than that.

I'm parroting nothing, the British //intervened// in Turks and Caicos by overthrowing their elected government, ergo I brought up the Monroe Doctrine and related the forced toppling of the island's elected government to what the British are trying to do in Zimbabwe. You then pretended to be knowledgeable about the topic by rewriting what you read on a wikipedia article. Do you want to know how I know you don't know anything about the Monroe Doctrine? You called it the Monroe Document, well done, fool.

If you really wanted to allow Zimbabwe to move on with their lives, then you'd support the ending of all sanctions to allow them to do so. All you want is for the British descendants in Zimbabwe to regain power over Zimbabwean natural resources.

d-bokk, contrary to your stupid sense of grandeur, you are not the only who is well read if at all. You do not know who I am, where I've been or what I do for a living and besides. So don't try to be a wise ass .

d-bokk, the fact that you had to look up the Monroe Doctrine clearly proves you knew diddly squat about it because had I been wrong then you would have known right away without you checking Wikipedia or whatever. You are just trying to play down your ignorance. Well, I will raise you a notch and tell you you are a fool who doesn't know what the heck they are talking about and welcome you to the takunya and chokora fold of idiots. So let me ask you that even BEFORE Mugabe was sanctioned, how far forward was Zimbabwe moving? What was their unemployment rate and the the value of their Zimbabwean dollar? Talk of millionaires who could not afford a loaf of bread, IF they could find one. Why are those millions packed in South Africa having fled Zimbabwe long before sanctions? Now, seeing that all this happened BEFORE sanctions, who was to blame?

kjrs, I wanted to see where you get your BS from and seeing as how you knew what the word "ergi" meant, it was obvious you used some source like wikipedia to figure it out. How would someone of British decent from New Zealand (or is it Australia?) know what that word means?

The fact of the matter is I was right and you only understood half of what the you read about the Monroe Doctrine on wikipedia. I've been taught this three times throughout middle to high school. I did not understand it fully until I read a book about Latin America and how it was used. It was mostly used to justify banana republics but they misused the Doctrine for their own profits. Nonetheless, it means the Brits are prohibited from intervening in the Western Hemisphere and the money-whores in DC conveniently overlooked Turks and Caicos because they're hypocrites. The great days of a Non-Interventionist, Anti-Imperialism, Anti-British America are long gone, along with our morality and civic duty that would have prevented these evil sanctions from being put into place in the first place.

And you really think you're on to something, you asked the same question in two different posts on the same day. I answered it in the "Tsvangirai's Terrifying Gamble" thread, but I will say this once more -- Zimbabwe was doing well until they put trust in the West. Mugabe made that mistake, very true, but the West put the finishing blow on Zimbabwe's economy once they pinpointed its weakness. The British did the same to the people I share my Norwegian blood with in Iceland when they used anti-terrorist (they called Iceland a terrorist nation, how do you justify that?) legislation to force Iceland into bankruptcy... they have a long record of this kind of intervention. These swine need to be stopped.

d-bokk you are talking absolute rubbish. The Zimbabwe that you see is in your deranged mind and not the real one that those of sane mind see - the real one that exists and existed even before sanctions were imposed on Mugabe, a country which Mugabe has destroyed beyond recognition. Zimbabwe only progressed the first four years of Independence with Mugabe promising all sorts of good things for his people, and I in great support of him because finally I thought, the people of Zimbabwe would be free of the Smith racist government. Mugabe was suddenly stricken by the devastating disease of greed and power where he mismanaged the coffers of his country, abused the farmers in such brutal ways killing some of them. There are much better ways that the handing over of land to Zimbabweans could have been done instead of lawlessness and brutality. What was the final result? No food, no money, 94% unemployment, currency worth nothing, people trying their hardest to vote Mugabe out with the resulting opposition brutal killings and people fleeing by the millions to South Africa and Botswana. Where was Mugabe in all this? The cause and right in the middle of it all and still is in his refusals to cooperate with the implementation of a unity government. You can poo poo Mugabe and put blame on America and Britain all you want, but it is Mugabe who has brought the devastation to his own country because the destruction to Zimbabwe commenced long before sanctions were imposed on him and those sanctions were not imposed on him as a reward for a job well done to his people. At least those sanctions will have helped in bring about a government of unity with fiscal responsibility, land equity, addressed human rights violations and hopefully peace and prosperity for ALL and not just riches for Mugabe and some Zanu-PF big dogs. MDC are capable and so far, focused and must look to every nation for support.

and by the way d-bokk how I knew that "ergi" was a put down by you is that I associated 'ergi" with ergot , a fungus from which a powerful vasoconstrictor is derived which I am very familiar with in the use of contracting the uterus after child birth and which is also known to be an hallucinogen. So when you said I was "ergi" I just assumed you you meant I was crazy or a fungus - who knows with jerks and fungi like you.

kjrs, you made a 10 year jump from 1991 to 2001 while only mentioning the areas of decline -- but have you ever looked at why and how? I posted a link in the other thread, but here it is again:

http://www.swans.com/library/art8/elich004.html

To summerize, because I doubt you will read the article because your mind is already set:

After the collapse of the Eastern Bloc, Zimbabwe was forced to turn to the West and adopted the Economic Structural Adjustment Program (ESAP). This was Mugabe gravest mistake. Like Bolivia, Nigeria, Venezuela, Ecuador, Jamaica and I could go on, the ESAP devastated Zimbabwe's economy. Immediately after adopting the US/UK/Canada funded Structural Adjustment Program, income in the poorest homes of Zimbabwe dropped, unemployment rose and food prices increased. This is what is suppose to happen with the ESAP, as its underlying goals are to: privatize, cut social spending, deregulate and end food/health subsidies. The local capitalists in Zimbabwe were put to the mercy of foreign corporations who had the resources to over power them and put them out of business. By 1994, nearly all of Harare thought the ESAP negatively affected their lives.

By the end of the 1990s Mugabe abandon the ESAP and placed price caps on food that Zimbabweans could not afford after the devastation caused by ESAP. And as Mugabe abandon the ESAP, the MDC seized their opportunity to rise to power by emulating their policy on the ESAP and as a result they instantly gained funding and support from Western government who had a lot to gain from MDC's proposals. During the poverty created by the ESAP, the the landless began to (temporarily) occupy farms without the order of Mugabe, but on their own accord.

Then Mugabe began to redistribute the land, while the Western media sources said he was giving land to "cronies" and "friends" ... all 125,000 of them (the number of families is even greater in 2009) even including members of MDC.

The next lie was that maize crops were going to fail because of the blacks don't know how to farm, but the British fail to mention that before the redistribution of commercial farms -- 70% of Zimbabwe's maize crop was grown on poor black farmers. The commercial farms were used for cash crops, hardly a staple crop for Zimbabwe.

Then in 2001, the United States decided to block all foreign currency from entering Zimbabwe, starving them of a chance of recovery and ensuring the economic collapse that would give the likes of you a sense of self-righteousness under the convenient cover of plausible deniability.

As a single example of how the British have tried to sabotage Zimbabwe, the British Petroleum company refused to allow fuel to be off-loaded in Mozambique because Zimbabwe owed them $3 million which effectively meant that 70% of Zimbabwe's oil was cut off by the British, who by virtue of controlling the transport facility, starved Zimbabwe of agriculture's most necessary resource. Zimbabwe could not keep up with their payments, as they did not have the foreign currency to do so.

...and after all this time I spent trying to enlighten you of the West's role in this crisis, you will probably continue to ignore it all and continue your vindictive insistence that Zimbabwe's economy needs to be restricted by unreasonable sanctions.

d_bokk I will just make one comment to prove to you that you are all screwed up. If you do not pay your bill for what was rendered to you, and those to whom you owe the money refuse to give you anymore service or goods, is that "sabotage" to you? You know that even if you bounced a check once, business owners will not give you goods no matter who is or how many are dependent on you. So why should the rules be any different for Mugabe. If he owed that money then it is his own fault and was rightly refused. Mugabe is not a kid but a president of a country that knows protocol and if he has no fiscal responsibility then his people will have no choice but suffer for it. Zambia is doing ok and so are other neighbouring countries such as Malawi, Mozambique, Botswana and Namibia. So why should anyone pick on Mugabe? You think perhaps they just don't like his cologne? His long greedy and bloody fingers are his downfall that's what. For you information, I do not need a lesson in history from you as I know everything there is to know about Zimbabwe and am even fluent in one of the languages spoken there. So take a hike.

kjrs, you can find a way to justify anything -- it doesn't change the UK's blatant sabotage of Zimbabwe. That was merely one example of how the British have hindered Zimbabwe's economy, the first being sanctions that led to the shortage of foreign currency that hindered making payments to British Petroleum in the first place. The British shouldn't own that pipeline to begin with, and its up to Africa to take control of their infrastructure otherwise they will forever be at the whim of their former colonial masters. It isn't like BP stopped sending Zimbabwe oil, they stopped allowing oil that Zimbabwe had payed for to pass through these pipelines.

kjrs, I will just make one quote to prove to you that you are all screwed up:

"I know everything there is to know about Zimbabwe"

Only an arrogant fool would claim to know everything. I don't care one bit about your credentials, take them to your job interviews because they mean nothing here. If you cannot show your knowledge on these forums, then you're no more intelligent than an ape... so far its not looking too good for you.

D_Bokk;

How right you my brother!! It is only a stupid, idiotic and "arrogant fool who would claim to know everything". This bustard does not know anything about Zimbabwe and does not even know one local language as he claims; this is only meant to scare you away.

In any case who wants to know what he knows or does not know about Zimbabwe? He should do the right thing by taking the stupid and meaningless "credentials, to a job interviews" with the CIA who are interested in recruiting people like him who will make very good Economic Hit Man in Zimbabwe and other poor and sanctioned countries.

Once again D_Bokk thanks for the link which provides very informative data on how imperialists are sabotaging our economy and killing our people. These fools are always in denial and will never acknowledge their lack of information on Zimbabwe. Please keep up the good work of defending us from where you are.

As an American you are better placed because you are more informed than us on the plans being put in place by imperialists. We, on our part, can do so much but no further because they immediately accuse us of being "Mugabe cronies" and yet we are Zimbabweans who are fully aware and are daily experiencing firsthand how devastating the sanctions imposed on us are.

President Mugabe did not take my hand to join the liberation struggle; I did that out of my own volition. So how can he now tell me what to say and how to say it; and what to do and how to do it? It's only that our way of seeing things in our country happen to be the same. I fought for my land and President Mugabe went to jailed 11 years for land and left the country and stayed 5 years in the bush for nothing else but LAND.

We are both fighting for our heritage and there is no way I cannot support a leader who is persistent, consistent and focused on the fundamental reason for going to war. Many of our compatriots died for this very reason - LAND - and so we, revolutionaries of this great country called DZIMBA RE MABWE (House_Of_Stone), must ensure that they did not die in vain.

This is why I am urging you to continue helping and supporting us in this fight that is pitting us against very powerful imperialists and neo-colonialists who have deployed very powerful WMDs (Weapons Of Mass Deception) that are daily demonizing my President and all patriotic Zimbabweans in order to reverse all that we have gained since 1980.

takunya_ndebvu,

My apologies for the late reply, I wanted to take a few days break from kjrs venom while I watched the Milwaukee Bucks. Your posts are always informative, which must be why the troll awt is always following you around and spamming his copy/paste nonsense.

I usually pop in and out of allafrica.com, I was debating awt a while back after the second round of 2008's election. Back then, all these MDC apologists were still repeating the lie that sanctions don't exist when that claim was part of the MDC's party line, but now it seems like they've changed their tone from "they don't exist" to "the sanctions are good for Zimbabwe." Not surprising as their positions change with the wind much like the fickle MDC.

I'm not sure how much good I can do as an American, but I've dealt with these types many times before because they're in abundant in this part of the world. After hearing so much of their bs, it becomes easy to see the direction they're trying to lead the debate towards and how to avoid their scripted propaganda.

One of the reasons why I'm concerned with the sanctions against Zimbabwe is that if it works in Zimbabwe, then these international banks and the countries that control them will begin to use the strategy on other countries. I'm worried about countries like Venezuela, whose president Hugo Chavez also sees the dangers of the British/US success in suppressing Zimbabwe as well. Another reason is that I'd like the idea of localization of industry and agriculture, one of my biggest problems here is that executives in the state of Arkansas make decisions that are disastrous for small towns in Wisconsin. And I can only imagine how much worse it is when the decisions are coming all the way from the UK.

Every time you guys open your foul mouth, doggerel comes out. Your appeal to a more reasonable global audience, that the likes of Mr. D-Bokk and his fellow moderate Europeans & Americans represent - who have now seen thru your hate-filled souls - the more they realized that your approach of demanding justice by force and foul mouth in Africa is untenable. Let us forget about Morgan-Sellout, he is just your pawn who is totally confused with his identity crisis. What matters most is that your approach in causing mischief in Africa so as to divide and conquer as you did during the colonial & apartheid days. As a resilient and forgiving people, Africans still welcome the global community to live, own land, farms & generally do business and prosper with us in a global village kind of mutually-respectable partnership & good neighborliness ways. Is that too much to ask for? What we don’t want in this modern days are the type that your fellow Afrikaner-Hyenas that we have been reading from on this online medium. It is not too late to change; you might still be forgiven too. None of us is beyond salvation or reproach, either. So, join the 21st Century & welcome to a newer world to help us make it a better place for a more loving future generation.

Kaparah you desperately need a brain transplant.

kjrs120, I have been following your tantrum on this medium for quite awhile now & your only mantra is to call other commentators names like "idiot" "stupid" and "fool" which Zola-Zuzu has begun to imbibe. I guess it runs in the family. Calling other people names, instead of responding intelligently to counter, refute, convince or woo them to your side, is a sign of inferior mind that cannot think rationally beyond your hate-filled soul. Guess who is stupid and foolish now but a frustrated idiot like you.

Kaparah, you tell me off for calling you idiots " idiot," and yet YOU call me an "idiot?" Get a brain man. Idiot.

So the idiot calls others idiots, now that's just idiotic from the idiot. The idiocity of the idiotic idiot is just an idiot, have you got it yet idiot.

Tafara, go back to Mabvuku.idiot.

" .. will give President Robert Mugabe 30 days"

When we expect him to stand up to the foreign enemies of the people and the lands of maZimbabwe, cowardly Tsvangirai is nowhere to be seen. When it comes to harassing the native, Tsvangirai shines.

Yet he is sworn to protect Zimbabwe from foreign enemies. He sworn to safeguard the interests and security of the patriotic people of Zimbabwe.

And we assume that Tsvangirai is a patriot - who, like Cde Patrice Lumumba and Cde Mugabe would stand up to the foreigners who would harm the native.

We assume that in case the security of the lands and the liberty/happiness of the people of maZimbabwe is threatened by foreigners, patriotic Tsvangirai will stand firm with the people of Zimbabwe and fight side-by-side with them to repulse any such foreign machinations.

Over the past few years, thousands upon thousands of patriotic Zimbabweans have perished and the hands of known foreigners.

Civilized countries - including the USA, UK, Zimbabwe and the SADC - recognize the imposition of economic sanctions by one country on another as a declaration of war.

The kids and their mothers in Zimbabwe have wallowed and died in hunger and disease as a result of the hostile sanctions imposed upon Zimbabwe by foreigners.

Tsvangirai cannot propose that the imperial west imposed economic sanctions on Saddam Hussein's Iraq to assist the country in its road to prosperity. Neither were economic sanctions meant to assist Cuba. Tsvangirai, however dim he may be, cannot propose that the economic sanctions imposed by his masters on the country of Zimbabwe benefited/benefits the people of Zimbabwe. If he does, then the patriots whose loved ones have perished as a result, and the people who have watched their country devastated by the imperial west, must confront him.

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Thus, the leaders of the SADC countries are aware that Zimbabwe is in a de facto state of war declared by USA, UK and the EU countries. And that the hardships thereby inflicted on the people are there for all to see. In their rush to condemn Cde Mugabe, do they ever stop to cast an eye on the activities of foreigners responsible for the catastrophe? Or is it just easier to condemn the weaker native? Are they hoping that if they don't condemn the foreign culprits then their own countries will be spared? Yet this is a well-known approach of the imperial foreigners: Divide and Conquer. After Zimbabwe, there will be others. And if the imperial foreigners turn their sanctions on other SADC member countries, what economic/diplomatic assistance would the targeted countries expect from their neighbors? If they will be expecting any, then why aren't they offering Zimbabwe their unqualified support against the known, plundering foreign enemy?

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Tsvangirai is not on record for having lambasted foreigners for anything they do, or have done, in Zimbabwe or Africa. We wonder what he knows about the history of the ancestral lands of Zimbabwe. Under what circumstances would Tsvangirai rise up to the foreign enemies, and would he sacrifice his life - for Zimbabwe?

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Now we behold the spectacle of Tsvangirai seeking to bring to halt the smooth functioning of the government of Zimbabwe - on account of one rhodie of the land-grabbing, native-raping, native-killing rhodie bloodline.

Perhaps Tsvangirai's pet rhodie is the most 'capable' person in MDC. Yet we are talking about the governance of Zimbabwe. Does Tsvangirai know that there are more capable natives in Zimbabwe - even if there are none in his MDC? [Or would Tsvangirai propose that there exists no capable Africans?]

Tsvangirai Lifts ..

What a clown!

Hew should be in the circus!

[No wonder rhodies love him ... the stereotypical happy-go-lucky, clueless, hakuna-matata native boy]

Oh what a circus oh what a clown, Chokora has gone to the dogs, Is this the best that comes out of his mouth, His life is flushed down the bog.

So, YOU have not gone to the dogs.

Now, what is there for us to discuss in your post?

You really don't want us to discuss "chokora", do you?

Go on then Choke-orala, discuss yourself, you do best talking to yourself, look forward to your postings.

A great news indeed. I hope that the coming days will be focused now on Zimbabwe's progress. Regards, http://www.ezbusinessloans.com