Somalia: Somaliland Pushes for Independence at Talks
For years Somaliland's stance has been to gain independence from Somalia. In London, the two parties are meeting face-to-face for the first time ever in two decades to discuss the way forward for the country.
A soldier from the Somalia's transitional government pushes back a crowd (file photo): The Somaliland-Somalia meeting was an issue agreed on at the London conference earlier this year.
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Sir:
Please explain why you not only consider the Hawiye to be the majority clan in the south, but also in the entire country. From which internationally accepted census are you basing this claim?
Furthermore, you need to define the south. Certainly the area from the Juba River to the Kenyan border is primarily Darood. The Juba and Shabelle River Valleys, which happen to the be the most populated districts in Somalia outside of Mogadishu, are home to the Bantu groups. If the south is the area between the Shabelle River Valley and Puntland, then I would agree with your contention that the Hawiye dominate there.
It is interesting that the fighting in Somalia since 1991 has overwhelmingly taken place in southern Somalia's Juba and Shabelle River Valleys and along the southern Coast from the Kenyan border up to Mogadishu. This is the home area of the Bantu and the coastal Arab minorities. When you speak of carpet baggers, might we also call the Hawiye and Darood warlords that name as they have violently competed for control of these native minority areas for the past 20 years?
Asante,
Somalia needs a good Government we all know that, However the Western people and Government are making it not better, but in fact worse. The Somali people would never allow people such as the Ethiopians and Kenyans to interfere in Somalia’s issues neither people from the UK, France and the USA. Your not going to building a new country you’re going to make it another disaster. In my opinion you should have done something years before but now you decide to help when Somalia is at its worst conditions. I believe Somalis would not accept any further help from the Government as they think the Western have manipulated the fact that they could help a country in need when actually they may be there for the oil and the people, it’s a well-known fact. They are turning this into the next Afghanistan. "We can't dictate its future nor can we provide the solution to its internal problems – those are things that only Somalis can decide, although there are many ways that we can and will give them our assistance."(Guardian) I believe this is true but how can Somalis do this anymore? How can Somalis decide? You can fix their roads but you can never fix their brains. Believe me, Somalis can never recover from 20 years of civil war and famine and that is something people can never understand or relate to. It is hard. I am a Somali speaking from my point of view, I may not be an adult or an over eighteen but this is what needs to come across to all people seeking ‘help’ for Somalia. This is what Somalis want. They cannot find hope anymore; they do not know who to believe. The Western are providing good money to the AMISOM Armies but not to the Somalis then later on they are speaking on how to ‘get Somalia back on its feet’. If you really wanted to help Somalia then why not put effort into actually investing a good amount of money to the Somalis? Or is it just for publicity and making sure you get labelled a good name? The Turkish are heard to be the most effort put into helping Somalia they are putting the most they can into Somalia. When have I heard the UK or other countries did their best? As far as I'm concerned they just put input to the exportation of food. The Western take pictures of Somalis suffering from famine and broadcast it over many news channels.... and what help are you doing? Showing your skills on how to show pictures or helping Somalia? Are you actually thinking if people care or not? This problem should have been dealt with two decades ago. Clearly in those times I believe the Western were hunting for oil but were waiting for Somalia to get worse. It is like leaving a child sick then wait for it to be nearer to death- then decide to help them. The only problem Somalia had were civil war and the lack of Government. Now this has led to children dying every day due to the lack of food. This shows the absolute great help the world could ever give. This shows how illiberal people are. Also, the British only did some things because the Ottoman (Turkish) decided to help Somalia. They then gained publicity, so the British decided to help too. I am not implying that the British were no help but they could at least put more effort like the Ottoman did.
Al-Shabab militants keep to their word. They will never accept anything from the Western. They say “It is better to starve than accept aid from the West”. This ceases Humanitarian Organisations from gaining their ‘publicity’ as the Al'- Shabab militants halt the aid being provided from them. In this case it doesn’t help anyone in or with anything. “Somalia is one of the poorest, most violent, least stable countries anywhere on Earth.”(Article by Roger Middleton- BBC News) To me that is just utter rudeness. Somalia would have never of been any of those if (mainly) the UK and the USA kept to their own businesses stuck to their own countries problems. Firstly the UK has debt and the worst Government there could ever be to be dealing with. Secondly the USA have too many problems of their own to be even thinking about Somalia let alone other countries. The UK and other places can keep on talking about piracy but you won’t benefit from speaking about it. Who pushed you to visit those seas? You may not think a thirteen year old would understand this but I think I am more concerned than Barack Obama. The Western are only concerned about ‘piracy’ because recently people were kidnapped. If they were not kidnapped you wouldn’t care about piracy not even if the sky turned green! It’s as stupid as that, you are only concerned because your own people got involved. There is nothing to be said further about it. I came here to speak for Somalia, speak for the people who couldn’t reach you, speak for the starving. The children of Somalia are not educated like I am currently doing; they are being taught how to use guns. They are taught to kill. There was a young boy of ten who killed three people. Is that acceptable? There was an eighteen year old girl with four children and a dead father. Is that acceptable? Many people turn mentally ill and become handicap. God forsake you people do not become like the Somalis at this moment. William Hague is there to show off, labelled a good name. Shame on you: if you do not act upon this. I know a Somali girl of twenty who is very lucky to be able to get into a university. How did this happen you are thinking? Well, let me tell you she used not a modern lamp but the old style antique Hurricane lamps to study books every day to reach university. She had no light. It was hard for her. Her mother has nine children and they live in the outskirts of Mogadishu. Sometimes she cannot go to university because of fights on the streets but she wants to succeed in her education. There are children in Somalia with no mother nor father. Somalis didn’t ever know about suicidal, piracy etc. until people came into their lives and turned it into a global issue. I even heard some ‘Somali Pirates’ do not know how to swim. That is how pathetic it gets. I want to seek a future for Somalia, I want a my people to get a better education, I want to see my people live in the homes and houses they used to live in, I want to see my people walk the roads with hope and prosperity. I want a new Somalia, A Somalia better than before... Thank You, 13 Year Old Student London